Wary Puppy 5.2.2, 18 Nov. 2011

[BarryK]

Here is a PET package to upgrade Wary 5.2 to 5.2.1:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02573

Minor bug fixes, except for one big one -- the printing fix.

[don570]

new mtpaint 3.34.74
available in a pet package

newest mtpaint saves a layer properly while using wary

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71332
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[otropogo]

After waiting a couple of days in the hopes someone could shed light on the several issues reported in my previous post here (BTW - somehow my e-mail notification of new posts in the thread has been blocked), I decided to simply try again, with the same PC, DVD-burner, and LiveCD as the first time.

The only change was the monitor, substituting a PC-enabled 20" Sun Microsystems model for the Viewsonic E90 I used in the previous boot Both monitors are attached to the system via a DualHead2Go connector, and booting with either or both powered up has not created any difficulty in 4.3.1 or lupu. After setup was completed, I powered up the second monitor, and it displayed identically to the Sun. So I don't believe this change can account for the massive difference in the desktop appearance and function, let alone the failure of major components to work, or the automatic setup of a wary savefile without user input. It's a very intriguing mystery to me, and I'm astonished that neither Barry nor anyone else here has expressed the slightest interest.

I booted the CD with

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puppy pfix=ram

, to avoid booting from the warysave-SD5.3fs file created automatically by the installer on the first bootup, and also to avoid waiting for Wary to search the whole system for savefiles.

The installer presented the keyboard, timezone, and local/UTC options, and after that I selected xorg's probe option, as I did the last time. As previously, the xorg wizard offered a ridiculous resolution of 1024x768, and I tested it. It used only the top two thirds of the screen, so I hit CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE, reconfigure, and as always, was offered no option except to tweak the refresh rate.

I chose TWEAK, and chose 60Hz (which I know from experience is the only rate the xorg wizard will accept for my monitors (I wish I knew why!)), and presto! - the screen filled at 1600x1200 resolution with the announcement that the Radeon driver was installed.

Hitting OK gave me a normal desktop, with all the icons, and the wallpaper. The drive icons were there, ABI worked. I was even able to run the Pwallpaper image chooser and substitute a wallpaper from Puppy 4.x for the ghastly selection provided.Go figure!

And furthermore, this time the Wary installer DID NOT take it upon itself to created a warypet folder and install a 384MB 3fs warysave file on a partition of its choice without consultation (not yet, anyway).

However, the failure of the Pmount preferences tab to do anything persists. And another strange thing is that whereas the first Wary 5.2 boot had Gimp available and working in the Graphic menu, I don't see it this time...

BTW - I wonder why the pets for UFRAW (standalone and GIMP plug-in) and RAWSTUDIO, which are available for lupu and 4.3.1, are not found by Wary's packet manager?

Overall, I guess I've got some good news this time. I wonder if that means I'll be notified of new posts in subscribed threads once more...

Update: tried playing some mp4 videos after upgrading to 5.2.1. All I get from MPlayer is a console and audio, but no video.

I then tried installing xine-ui. 099, and a number of listed dependencies, and after all that, there was yet another notice of missing libraries, but no option to download.

Finally, I installed gxine 059.. But it had missing dependencies too.

Gxine shows in the Multimedia menu, but nothing happens when I click on it. It seems there's no way to play an mp4 video.

OTOH, clamAV installed without a hitch, and supposedly is accessible through the utilities menu. But I can't find a tab for it anywhere...

What was "broken" about x-fprot, anyway? It worked fine for me in Puppy 4.xx and lupu.

[rcrsn51]

Here is guvcview for Wary. The separate DEP package contains the dependencies - libportaudio, libv4l2, libSDL and libavcodec. Because of their size, I have uploaded them externally.

guvcview_wary-1.5.0.pet
guvcview_wary_DEP-1.5.0.pet

Look in the menus under Multimedia.

This also works in Racy.

(If someone else has already posted this, I apologize.)

[otropogo]

Here is guvcview for Wary. The separate DEP package contains the dependencies - libportaudio, libv4l2, libSDL and libavcodec. Because of their size, I have uploaded them externally.

guvcview_wary-1.5.0.pet
guvcview_wary_DEP-1.5.0.pet

Look in the menus under Multimedia.

This also works in Racy.

(If someone else has already posted this, I apologize.)

Thanks. I'm in lupu right now, but will try after rebooting with Wary later today.

Should I uninstall the gxine and xine downloads and their installed dependencies before installing the above pets?

[otropogo]

Wondering whether there's a pet to provide USB3 support in Wary, as there is in lupu? I assume the kernel doesn't include such support, since it doesn't in lupu ( Slacko 5.29.6 has such kernel support).

Lupu also seems to have a problem with 3TB ntfs support on both the USB3 and the USB2 port. Slacko 5.29.6 doesn't seem to have this problem, but won't run on my Intel D865GLC desktop machine.

[rcrsn51]

Should I uninstall the gxine and xine downloads and their installed dependencies before installing the above pets?

No. Guvcview is a webcam app. Gxine is a media player.

[otropogo]

Should I uninstall the gxine and xine downloads and their installed dependencies before installing the above pets?

No. Guvcview is a webcam app. Gxine is a media player.

Thanks. Might as well uninstall gxine, -0.5.9, xine-ui, and xine-lib1.1.6 anyway, since according to the dependency checker they're missing the following files, which packet manager can't find anywhere, and which I wouldn't know what to do with if I could find them:

File /usr/bin/gxine has these missing library files:
libmozjs.so
File /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/xineplug_vo_out_xcbxv.so has these missing library files:
libxcb-xv.so.0 libxcb-shm.so.0 libxcb-shape.so.0
File /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/xineplug_vo_out_xcbshm.so has these missing library files:
libxcb-shape.so.0 libxcb-shm.so.0

Clamav supposedly has no missing dependencies, but I can't see a tab or an icon for it, and have no idea how to access it or use it.

At the time of installation, the Packet Manager reported no missing dependencies for any of the above. The only thing reported missing was "faad", which I've now installed. The dependency checker says it has no missing libraries, but I still can't play either flv or mp4 video.

Have just gone another round with Wary 5.2.1, package installer. I uninstalled xine gxine, and xine-lib, but left the alsa library and faad installed. I then reinstalled xine-ui and its dependencies. Then Package Manager reported that I'm missing the same library files described above, PLUS a new one :

File /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/xineplug_vo_out_sdl.so has these missing library files:
libSDL-1.2.so.0

which I'm equally unable to find in the Wary repository. Even more interesting is that Packet Manager also reports that I'm missing FAAD, even while its other window is showing it as installed....

As for Mplayer - all I'm able to do with it is play the sound track of flv and mp4 videos. A yellow screen opens for a fraction of a second, and then closes without leaving a tab anywhere. If I open it without clicking on a video file, I can get a yellow screen. But dropping a file into it, or navigating to a video file to open it immediately closes the window. Sometimes I can get a completely black window. I haven't seen any video play in it yet.

Dependency Checker is now telling me that xine-ui is not missing any shared libraries, but that xine-lib is missing the four previously mentioned, while continuing to list FAAD as an uninstalled dependency, and an installed package with no missing dependencies at the same time.

Puppy has searched for any missing shared libraries of these packages:

faad2-2.7-w5c

No missing shared libraries

Puppy has examined all user-installed packages and found these missing dependencies:

faad

[James C]

For what it's worth, MPlayer on Wary 5.21 (full install) here plays .wmv, .avi ,.mp4 and flv files perfectly well. No problems...fullscreen toggles,good sound, etc..Works fine with audio mp3's as well.

[Shep]

Guvcview is a webcam app.

I have a USB webcam for which there is no driver on the Logitech site. (a version of Logitech Quickcam). Is it likely that guvcview might work with this cam, or does it still need the manufacturer's driver?

[smokey01]

I have a logitech 4000 pro which is also USB and it works fine with Guvcview in lupu-525 anyway.

I think I tried it in Wary and it worked too.

[BarryK]

Wondering whether there's a pet to provide USB3 support in Wary, as there is in lupu? I assume the kernel doesn't include such support, since it doesn't in lupu ( Slacko 5.29.6 has such kernel support).

Lupu also seems to have a problem with 3TB ntfs support on both the USB3 and the USB2 port. Slacko 5.29.6 doesn't seem to have this problem, but won't run on my Intel D865GLC desktop machine.

Wary is designed for older hardware. Racy supports usb3.

[irishrm]

I've just installed vlc 5.1.5-w5.

I was told a number of dependencies were missing.

It failed to play radio streams .xspf, .pls, .m3u.

Plays music o.k.

I found a partial solution by installing the mplayer codecs package from the puppy4 repo.

Now plays radio files but won't play video.

This was not a problem with 5.1.2.7

[otropogo]

For what it's worth, MPlayer on Wary 5.21 (full install) here plays .wmv, .avi ,.mp4 and flv files perfectly well. No problems...fullscreen toggles,good sound, etc..Works fine with audio mp3's as well.

MPlayer works fine on my laptop too, but that doesn't help me finding a way to play videos on my desktop machine. I wonder whether it has something to do with the display adapters. The laptop has an Nvidia chip, while the desktop is running an ATI X1550 adapter.

I've got no great yearning for Mplayer. Have generally gotten along with Gxine. But I can't get Gxine to work on the desktop either, although it works fine in Lupu and Puppy 4.3.1.

[linuxcbon]

ldd doesnt like when files in /usr/lib/ are not executable.
chmod +x /usr/lib/*

Other bug ?

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ldd /usr/lib/*.so | grep found

gives :

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/usr/lib/libgtkhtml-2.so: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-2.so)
/usr/lib/libgtkhtml-2.so: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-2.so)

[kenbanistu]

Wary 5.2 won't release the CD drive.
I am using a computer that can't boot from USB (too old), so I use the CD to boot. I created a warysave file on a USB flash drive (the hard drive died about a year ago) and when asked if I wanted to copy the wary sfs to the same location I said yes. When I boot, the warysave file is seen but the wary SFS file apparently is not. Wary is using the sfs file on the CD still instead of the one on the flash drive, and that means I can't use the cd drive for other things, it won't unmount.

--Ken

[smokey01]

kenbanistu how much memory do you have?

You need adequate memory to load puppy, if not it needs to access the cd drive.

[`f00]

@kenbanistu

Yep .. have that issue as well (no direct boot from usb) on my vintage machine. You could try "puppy pmedia=usbflash" at the bootsplash to force it to recognize/load the sfs that's on usb (thus hopefully freeing the optical drive after boot). It's been awhile since I've used usb, but as I recall a few other files are needed on the stick for the pmedia dodge to work properly..

Sorry to hear about the dead hdd - that really limits you in terms of 'fast' parts for swap if you're RAM-challenged also. Swap part on stick is do-able but slow..

[kenbanistu]

kenbanistu how much memory do you have?

You need adequate memory to load puppy, if not it needs to access the cd drive.

I only have 192 megs, but I don't see why that should matter. There is a copy of the sfs file on the flash drive. Wary should be using it instead of the one on the cd, thus freeing up the cd drive for other uses.

--Ken

[kenbanistu]

@kenbanistu

Yep .. have that issue as well (no direct boot from usb) on my vintage machine. You could try "puppy pmedia=usbflash" at the bootsplash to force it to recognize/load the sfs that's on usb (thus hopefully freeing the optical drive after boot). It's been awhile since I've used usb, but as I recall a few other files are needed on the stick for the pmedia dodge to work properly..

Sorry to hear about the dead hdd - that really limits you in terms of 'fast' parts for swap if you're RAM-challenged also. Swap part on stick is do-able but slow..

I'll give the pmedia=usbflash a try, but having to type that in every bootup will get annoying.

I'm not sure what other files would need to be on the stick. In puppy 4.3.1 all that is needed is the pupsave and the sfs.

--Ken