Fatdog64-521 (October 12, 2011)

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2byte · #46 Post by **2byte** » Sat 29 Oct 2011, 18:57

Kirk wrote: Sounds like 2D video hardware acceleration is not working. This usually happens when the Xorg server chooses the vesa driver.

Thanks for that tip, you are absolutely right. It just happened again. For some reason, once in a while, the flgrx driver is loaded but not used, even though xorg.conf is intact and correct. I confirmed this with lsmod, glxgears, amdcccle, and Hardinfo. Reboot and all is proper again. When the driver isn't used by Xorg lsmod shows fglrx 0 Used by, and when it is used lsmod shows 74 Used by.

This is beyond my abilities to correct so if you or anyone else could offer some guidance I would really appreciate it.

rcrsn51 · #47 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 29 Oct 2011, 19:55

2byte wrote:Document->PeasyPDF Help, but no PeasyPDF menu (both OpenBox and lxpanel menus)

That's true. If you read the help, it explains that the easiest way to run PeasyPDF is from the command line.

Ncmprhnsbl · #48 Post by **Ncmprhnsbl** » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 02:10

kirk

Probably, when we update gtk we'll put that in.

ok, i'll be keeping an eye on the bugtracker

fatdog is the first puppy to include a wacom driver...full functionality will be much appreciated.....no pressure

rcrsn51

Have you seen this?

if i looked i might have

...thanks , installed and working..instantly.
beats the compile option. ive got a half second memory for syntax.
this is the best temp monitoring in linux(as far as sensor detection goes) i've come across so far....was going to suggest it for repo but your way ahead of me.

a question-- any way of changing gtk theme for spot? that is, making it the same as root.

jamesbond · #49 Post by **jamesbond** » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 02:22

Ncmprhnsbl wrote:kirk
Probably, when we update gtk we'll put that in.
ok, i'll be keeping an eye on the bugtracker

For the time being you can install the gtk+-2.18.6-with-xinput-amd64.pet from the pet repo. Beware that it will eat a lot of your save file

cheers!

jamesbond · #50 Post by **jamesbond** » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 02:26

Ncmprhnsbl wrote:a question-- any way of changing gtk theme for spot? that is, making it the same as root.

I haven't tried this but I think it should work:
1) remove /root/spot/.gtkrc-2.0
2) symlink /root/.gtkrc-2.0 to /root/spot/.gtkrc-2.0
cheers!

Ncmprhnsbl · #51 Post by **Ncmprhnsbl** » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 03:23

jamesbond

I haven't tried this but I think it should work:
1) remove /root/spot/.gtkrc-2.0
2) symlink /root/.gtkrc-2.0 to /root/spot/.gtkrc-2.0
cheers!

hey thanks! i'll give it a go hmmm...symlink ey hmmm....

For the time being you can install the gtk+-2.18.6-with-xinput-amd64.pet from the pet repo. Beware that it will eat a lot of your save file Wink
cheers!

thanks again..i'll give it go in a couple of days when my connection speed is back to normal

edit-- did the symlink thing , does the trick!

didnt work for my theme at first-- had read permissions set to owner,
which was ok for root but not spot, thanks again!

gcmartin · #52 Post by **gcmartin** » Sun 30 Oct 2011, 20:51

jamesbond wrote: ... I don't have the problem. ... recently I updated the Java SFS to Update25, both works ...

Hi @Jamesbond/Kirk.

The problem for us Live media users is that we rely on the PPM. Often times it seems, that SFSs are being created. But, there are NO instructionals for LIve media users who need functionality that is ONLY available via SFS. And, in the past, I have always relied (excepting for some special testing) on the PPM as the product gospel for FATDOG. (And a prior post by Kirk seems to re-enforce that).

I know Jamesbond and Kirk has been sensitive to this need in the past and I hope that sensitivity continues. Many or most apps that we use are permanent apps. Thus the download, typically, is not an issue. And installation, generally occurs once in the lifetime of the system's use.

Thanks for all the good work you guys do.

Ncmprhnsbl · #53 Post by **Ncmprhnsbl** » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 01:59

hi again,
installed gtk x-input--enabled pet .... working ,of course

..doesnt seem overly large,..i usually make a 1 gig savefile straight off.

also, installed ati fglrx. comes up with a lot complaining about missing qt4 deps and listed scribus as a dep.....ignored all that and working fine.
interestingly it drops the cpu temperature by 2 to 3 degrees(see below)
handy with such high figures...i wonder about the wisdom of an i7 laptop.

anyway, thanks again, i definitely have keeper with this one

edit. forgot to mention webcam now works.

Sage · #54 Post by **Sage** » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 06:06

Those temps are worryingly high. To what do they refer? - the on-board diode?, the surface temperature, an under-chip sensing element? the algorithm calculation?
A decent single core Athlon Barton, even when clocked, doesn't show much above 35C from the on-board diode and runs faster than multiple cores with less on-chip overheads. Multiple cores were another example of failed Intel technology. They still cannot control thermal run-away and seem determined to drive down feature size towards quantum indeterminancy, when presumably they will vanish into their own void. They remind me of the old failed Soviet Union. Capitalism requires incessant growth to increase profit. So they make smaller and smaller widgets each year. Great way to increase 'productivity! It doesn't work, doomed to disaster, get out while you can. Meanwhile the smart chip designers are concentrating on the '735' answer - everything goes onto one single core, probably ARM RISC.

Ncmprhnsbl · #55 Post by **Ncmprhnsbl** » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 13:16

Those temps are worryingly high. To what do they refer?

good question..... no idea... same sort figures for windoze 7 which of course comes with no inbuilt temp monitoring.... what you dont know about can't hurt you

but hey you think those figures are worrying, check this...
about two thirds through a mandelbulber render (with radeon grphx driver)

Sage · #56 Post by **Sage** » Tue 01 Nov 2011, 15:32

It's partly a matter of lifetime, which isn't necessarily an issue in the profligate West. Normally, a cpu could expect to last ~25yrs. [Although even this needs qualification - does it imply continuous ON state, because the more ON-OFF cycles shorten MTBF].
Some of my chips have been clocked until they failed, some until they stop. The former are RIP, but some of the others seem to have survived - so far.
I raised the issue of 'cpu temperature' a year or so ago in connection with laptops. It met with the usual disinterest, ignorance and down right hostility in a couple of high profile cases who should know better. Now they talk of 32nm, even down to 16nm features. That may be a bridge too far for heat dissipation (I^2R !!!), quite apart from cross-talk, etc.
As for regular clods, they just wont be happy until they see a number in the tray. Any number, even the proverbial number you first thought of. Sad.
The human tongue is still the best test if the elbow can't reach...

neo01 · #57 Post by **neo01** » Wed 02 Nov 2011, 02:37

Dear friends,
I have downloaded bricscad for linux recently, unpacked it and tried to run it, but the prompt i get is

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# ./bricscad.sh 
./bricscad.sh: line 3: /root/spot/Downloads/bricscad/bricscad: No such file or directory
./bricscad.sh: line 3: /root/spot/Downloads/bricscad/bricscad: Success
# ./bricscad
bash: ./bricscad: No such file or directory

please help

chaitanya

2byte · #58 Post by **2byte** » Wed 02 Nov 2011, 04:00

In earlier posts I mentioned that sound was working, then posted that aplay and pmusic had no sound. VirtualBox could not provide sound either. It turns out that the multiple sound card wizard wrote some incorrect entries into /etc/asound.conf for my Gigabyte GA-A75M-UD2H motherboard built in sound chip. The incorrect entries were

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pcm.!default { type hw card 1 device 0 }
ctl.!default { type hw card 1 device 0 }

when they should be

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defaults.ctl.card 1
defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.timer.card 1

This is for my setup which is a desktop PC with ordinary plug-in stereo speakers. Now Alsa sound is working for everything I've tried that needs it.

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# aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 1: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: pcsp [pcsp], device 0: pcspeaker [pcsp]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

FYI

Ncmprhnsbl · #59 Post by **Ncmprhnsbl** » Wed 02 Nov 2011, 23:50

As for regular clods, they just wont be happy until they see a number in the tray.

i fear i may be one of those

not sure i'd want to put my tongue on that sort of 'hot chip',
seriously though, i share your concerns.....with my limited understanding of them..
just the shutdown temp drop from 60 or even 55 to ambient 25 seems a bit extreme...
nuff said best not hijack this thread.......

rcrsn51 · #60 Post by **rcrsn51** » Thu 03 Nov 2011, 01:57

Sage wrote:Those temps are worryingly high.

Sage wrote:As for regular clods, they just wont be happy until they see a number in the tray.

Since the coretemp and the THRM temp match (whatever they represent) there is pretty good evidence that this CPU is running hot when you put it under a load.

Sage · #61 Post by **Sage** » Thu 03 Nov 2011, 06:51

this CPU is running hot

- silver paint and liquid cooling. No, Halloween is over and I'm not just off to the pub...

WillM · #62 Post by **WillM** » Fri 04 Nov 2011, 19:36

I have uploaded lxpanel-0.5.8 for Fatdog64-521 in the Additional Software (Pets and Stuff) section of the forum, under Desktop.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 843#579843

lag0a · #63 Post by **lag0a** » Sat 05 Nov 2011, 23:40

I have tried audio-all-in-one-amd64-10.sfs in Fatdog64-521 and I can't seem to get qtrctrl to work with audacious.

I'm trying to use an application to change latency settings and qtrctrl allows you to do that but I can't get it to connect to audacious so I can play music using qtrctrl's lower latency settings.

Qtrctrl doesn't show audacious as an application I can connect to and audacious's plugin settings doesn't show jack as an output plugin so can someone PM me on how to get qtrctrl or jack and audacious to work?

joe0855 · #64 Post by **joe0855** » Sun 06 Nov 2011, 16:34

Hey Kirk & Jamesbond,

I've been using Fatdog64 520 and loving it. I tried 521 to see if there were any differences.

My touchpad (tap to select) is not working, although I am able to use the touchpad to move the arrow. I've gone into 'Setup...Adjust Touch Pad' (flSynclient) and have confirmed that TouchPad Mod is 'On'. ANy ideas?

Am I missing anything significant by staying with 520? Thanks!

kirk · #65 Post by **kirk** » Sun 06 Nov 2011, 19:40

joe0855,

The 521 change log is here :

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... atest.html

There's a link on the home page.

In 520 I forgot to disable tap-to-click, I fixed that in 521. If you want to enable tap-to-click, change MaxTapTime from 0 to 125 to start with, and adjust as needed from there. You can do that with Adjust Touch Pad, found under setup or can edit /usr/X11R7/lib64/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf.

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