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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2011, 09:07    Post_subject:  Links386 Pro
Sub_title: Abandon ware is it legal to share it
 

I was looking for a golf game for Linux but found nothing, was wondering if anyone would object to me linking , Links386 Pro for Dos contains 12 courses
the pet is 31meg configured to use DosBox, There is controversy over the legalities downloading some games that appear to be abandon ware.

Links was first produced by Access software inc, which was acquired by Microsoft then In 2004, Microsoft sold the Salt Lake City studio to Take-Two Interactive,
where it was renamed Indie Built. Indie Built was subsequently shut down in 2006. It is therefore unlikely that Take-Two will produce any additional versions of Links.

There is no platform that runs links in production or for sale by the manufacturer, no support from any source that claims to be a owner of the game,
so in all fairness I personally don't see a problem installing it, the only copies that I've seen for-sale are on Ebay either original cd still in the wrapper with no box or refurbished,
meaning cleaned and tested then repackaged, Dos is still available on Ebay either new unopened or second hand but has no support.

If anyone can give me a reason not to upload it as a pet please let me know.

I guess it's up to the the forum admins whether or not to allow it.



Edit: Thu Feb 23 21:20:32 EST 2012

I,ve decided to post the game, I have searched everywhere to find if it legal to do so and it seems to sway either way with no definite answer to the question,
I cannot find the copyright holder who are Access Software, this company no longer exist, they were acquired by MicroSoft and then sold to Take-Two Interactive and
renamed Indie Built which was closed down in 2006, so it appears to have been abandoned, which means that the company has taken no further interest in the
game's development and distribution, I will post it here until there be some claim of the legalities other wise.

This pet is the Links386CD Release Date: Dec 31, 1994 , it has the movies removed and has 12 courses, don't forget dosbox it required to play this game.
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Adagio

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2011, 16:34    Post_subject:  

I had forgotten all about Links.
It was a fantastic golf game for its time.
I loved the background music.

Would love to get a copy again.
I lost mine when my zip drive developed the "click-of-death".
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2011, 16:42    Post_subject:  

I f memory serves (though I'm not sure) the earliest version or two of John Biles's Teenpup had a version of Links, or a similar golf game, amongst its" Games" menu.

I remember trying to play it (and being hopeless, but still Smile ). Maybe he's the one to ask.

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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 08:40    Post_subject:  

Added game see first post, comments on this would be appreciated, if the the responses are overwhelmingly negative, then I shall remove it.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 09:28    Post_subject:  

Geoffrey

As far as I can see the copyright is still running, though there's no copyright holder to lawfully enforce it

Note: Use lawful, not legal

Quote:
Definition of Abandonware
Abandonware - Software that is no longer being sold or supported by its publisher. Most abandonware is still considered illegal unless the publisher has re-released the software as freeware.
....In Closing
We believe that "abandoned" software should be made available to the public, for either nostalgic purposes (entertainment), or for source code information (educational). In additon, We are of the belief that the current copyright laws should be modified when it pertains to software over 10-15 years old (at such a time, the software is said to be obsolete and usually is no longer sold).


http://www.classicgaming.cc/abandonware.php

I don't have a problem with using abandonware, and have several sites I visit
The UK/common law requires 'locus standi' i.e. a right to bring an action, by anyone making a claim, so even copyright protection agencies have no standing, as they cannot get instructions from the copyright holder to enforce, and any action would be an abuse of process, IMHO

Aitch Smile
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Geoffrey


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PostPosted: Thu 23 Feb 2012, 11:34    Post_subject:  

Aitch wrote:
Geoffrey

As far as I can see the copyright is still running, though there's no copyright holder to lawfully enforce it

Note: Use lawful, not legal

Quote:
Definition of Abandonware
Abandonware - Software that is no longer being sold or supported by its publisher. Most abandonware is still considered illegal unless the publisher has re-released the software as freeware.
....In Closing
We believe that "abandoned" software should be made available to the public, for either nostalgic purposes (entertainment), or for source code information (educational). In additon, We are of the belief that the current copyright laws should be modified when it pertains to software over 10-15 years old (at such a time, the software is said to be obsolete and usually is no longer sold).


http://www.classicgaming.cc/abandonware.php

I don't have a problem with using abandonware, and have several sites I visit
The UK/common law requires 'locus standi' i.e. a right to bring an action, by anyone making a claim, so even copyright protection agencies have no standing, as they cannot get instructions from the copyright holder to enforce, and any action would be an abuse of process, IMHO

Aitch Smile


I've left this for a few months before posting it, trying to get my head around the do's and don'ts, the only copies I've seen for sale are either original cd unopened or used and there aren't that many about,
this is 18 years old now since it was released and from what I've read I don't think anyone as ever been approached in regard to sharing old games that are obsolete,
I think it would be a different story though if it was done to make profit or gain, so it seems to be lax in enforcing any regulations and a blind eye is usually the case. Wink

If it was at all possible to contact the copyright holder, I'd offer them $1 for it.

I'll let it ride for awhile and see what other responses come before making a decision whether it go's or stays, will have to see what the powers that be say, as I really have no say.

Geoffrey Very Happy
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