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Firefox Font Frustrations (Solved)
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bones01

Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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Location: Melbourne, Aus
PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct 2011, 06:07    Post_subject:  Firefox Font Frustrations (Solved)
Sub_title: Why do they look better on some puppies than others?		  
Hi all,

I've had this problem with a few versions of Puppy, but now the time has come to try and find an explanation. In the images below, you'll see the differences in the fonts on Firefox in 5.2.0 and 5.2.8 My question is, why do the fonts look better in 520? I have checked the preferences in Firefox on both puppies and they match, but obviously 520 is better - particularly on my favourite Forum page.

Is this a Puppy issue or a Firefox issue? Any help would be appreciated.

I'm using Firefox 7.01. I've installed the recommended NVidia driver. I've checked the font files that I can.

Thanks.

Bones
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct 2011, 06:20    Post_subject:  
It's /etc/fonts/local.conf and /etc/fonts/fonts.conf. Copy both from Macpup to Lupu to work around this problem.

I had to edit /etc/fonts/local.conf (or fonts.conf, I don't remember which one exactly) and uncomment the section that disables bitmap fonts to get nice fonts in Firefox and Seamonkey.
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct 2011, 07:30    Post_subject:  
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<!-- /etc/fonts/local.conf file for local customizations -->
<fontconfig>
<!--  Enable sub-pixel rendering -->
   <match target="font">
      <test qual="all" name="rgba">
         <const>unknown</const>
      </test>
      <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
   </match>

<!-- suggested by 'upnorth' http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54294&start=15
 Reject bitmap fonts -->
 <selectfont>
  <rejectfont>
   <pattern>
     <patelt name="scalable"><bool>false</bool></patelt>
   </pattern>
  </rejectfont>
 </selectfont>
</fontconfig>


That's Iguleder's ....in Slacko (and Spup)

/etc/fonts/local.conf

bewdiful!
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Burn_IT

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Location: Tamworth UK
PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct 2011, 07:41    Post_subject:  
I keep a directory with the Microsoft core fonts in it and Symlink to it.

A search of the forum will throw up how to do it.
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bones01

Joined: 11 Aug 2008
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Location: Melbourne, Aus
PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 00:13    Post_subject:
Sub_title: Gotta love this forum		  
01micko wrote:
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<!-- /etc/fonts/local.conf file for local customizations -->
<fontconfig>
<!--  Enable sub-pixel rendering -->
   <match target="font">
      <test qual="all" name="rgba">
         <const>unknown</const>
      </test>
      <edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
   </match>

<!-- suggested by 'upnorth' http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54294&start=15
 Reject bitmap fonts -->
 <selectfont>
  <rejectfont>
   <pattern>
     <patelt name="scalable"><bool>false</bool></patelt>
   </pattern>
  </rejectfont>
 </selectfont>
</fontconfig>


That's Iguleder's ....in Slacko (and Spup)

/etc/fonts/local.conf

bewdiful!


Micko, I compared my local.conf with the one you posted and found a couple of differences. I had a few more <--- ---> than this. So I deleted them, and voila, all is great.

I love the help and clear advice I get on this forum from people who know.

Thanks Micko, Iguleder & Burn_IT for your help with this.

Bones.
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DaveS


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 01:05    Post_subject:  
Yes.. thanks for you work on this Iggy. I copied the entire Slacko /etc/fonts dir over to Racy after deleting the included version to solve a few font issues.
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darkcity


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Location: near here
PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 07:36    Post_subject:  
this is a really useful tip, does it effect any other programs and puppies?

going to add to wiki Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 11:37    Post_subject:  
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ImproveFontRendering

done - i've added a link for Opera font config - don't know if this is any different?
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bones01

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Nov 2012, 00:58    Post_subject: This still works  
I'm trying Precise 5.4 and had the same problem with fonts. Looked up my own name as I knew I'd asked the question before. Glad the solution still works. Very Happy
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