Slacko Puppy 5.3.1 Released

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01micko · #136 Post by **01micko** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 06:58

Thanks Lobster, fixed

Lobster · #137 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 07:17

After some kelp and recent discussions, I decided no need for PAE, so am going for main. Updated wiki - gonna see if you are on IRC

jpeps · #138 Post by **jpeps** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 07:29

Dillo 3.0.2 with ssl.

Lobster · #139 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:38

Had a brief chat with Micko on IRC before Billy (the dog) had to drag him off for some R&R . . .

Some good news. I am running pristine (puppy pfix=ram from boot) with the ATI crystal driver and the (previously mentioned) Openshot 1.4 SFS and claws crossed, it is working.

No need for python (included) and no need for xfce - it is working in JWM - did not think that was possible . . .

Oh joy

OK gonna add the blender SFS . . .
. . . then I am gonna create
Why did it not work before? Probably some claw fisted fool did something wrong. That would be moi

Sage · #140 Post by **Sage** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 08:59

Bingo - you've got the prime slot on DWW this week! Got to be doing something right.

01micko · #141 Post by **01micko** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:18

ooh, thanks for heads up Sage.

Pretty fair review by Robert Storey.. Fortunately the touchpad issue is sorted in this release.

Good idea of his to try other mirrors if a package isn't found, might try and work that one in somehow.

I don't expect we'll be getting a review off Caitlin any time this century. Maybe if we were called Ferret Linux?

Lobster · #142 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:26

Thanks Sage just saw that - it is out of date being based on 5.3

As a live CD it's hard to beat Puppy Linux for both performance and functional software. It has minimal hardware requirements and is very flexible. It's a great distro as long as you don't push it too far out of its niche.

. . . and there was me just getting Openshot 1.4 working and just experimenting with Blender . . . ah well . . . what is our niche again?

Good review. They still complaining about security when GROWL is now in Slacko? One day we will run as Fido . . .

Can someone sort out a torrent please?

Sage · #143 Post by **Sage** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 09:44

Shame those guys keep bashing on about /root, though.
Paranoids can of course run as nobody-in-particular users if only they read the destructions.
For ultimate security, remove HD and run under liveCD using a CD-R ! Bit tedious putting in the settings every time, but nothing to write malware onto.
Guess we need someone to write a little IP-hiding utility. Or, perhaps in the spirit of a nation that really did invent computing, a little code that sends out a spoof IP address?

nooby · #144 Post by **nooby** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 10:24

Sage wrote:Shame those guys keep bashing on about /root, though.
Paranoids can of course run as nobody-in-particular users if only they read the destructions.
For ultimate security, remove HD and run under liveCD using a CD-R ! Bit tedious putting in the settings every time, but nothing to write malware onto.
Guess we need someone to write a little IP-hiding utility. Or, perhaps in the spirit of a nation that really did invent computing, a little code that sends out a spoof IP address?

I don't even know what GROWL is and the spoof IP or any other such trick
would that work in EU now? AFAIK the law require that your ISP keep track
of everything your do. is it 6 month or one year or something before them
delete and start all over? or do them always have the latest 6 month in a kind of loop that delete the oldest to give place for the newest actions?

Anyway the ISP is required to keep track of what IP you have and to try and give you same IP each time your request a new one so it is easy to track.

That is what them write in our idg.se which is a daughter company of PCWorld Mag and similar publishing company. IDG News is part of it too.

So if one spoof the IP that will tell the ISP that one are up to bad bad things?

Lobster · #145 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 10:55

nooby wrote:I don't even know what GROWL is

Now you do again . . .
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 216#335216

It is available in Slacko Puppy 5.3.1 under Network . . .

nooby · #146 Post by **nooby** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 11:23

Ooop sorry I realize I have derailed this one
I am on track with the lost sound thing though
in the Slacko bug thread.

Thanks Lobster, I had forgot all about GROWL.
Clam01 write a good thing below my post in that thread.
Maybe we can continue there then to not derail this one

jpeps · #147 Post by **jpeps** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 18:32

Sage wrote:Shame those guys keep bashing on about /root, though.
Paranoids can of course run as nobody-in-particular users if only they read the destructions.

Hope that was a typo

Anyway. IMHO..when the same criticism keeps surfacing year after year from the linux savvy, there's always the option to put aside one's bias and listen. Perhaps there's a valid point.

I've never run in root. Some apps, like Torr won't even run in root....maybe the programmers are paranoid and ignorant? We are running Linux, not windoz, and there are certain conventions expected...even if you personally might feel using "sudo" is overly challenging. Personally, I like the root/user hybrid combination...since ROX is in root, desktop icons load apps in root anyway (although with a non-root setup that wouldn't be necesssary).

When you mention experiences where the extra level of protection has been helpful on this forum, it's typical to get a response from some newbee like "you need to be careful." I have yet to find users complaining in any other linux distro because it doesn't run in root. End of rant.....

Lobster · #148 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 18:59

In any other distro - I run as root. My machine. I choose.

Now then . . . been playing again with Openshot 1.4
http://puppylinux.info/topic/openshot-14
. . . it seems I don't need xfce (or KDE)?
What has changed to make this possible?

Lobster · #149 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 12 Dec 2011, 20:18

Well . . . who cares . . .
. . . 5.3.1 promo video created in Openshot 1.4 and Slacko
http://youtu.be/1Kn6ZRDH3vk

zekebaby · #150 Post by **zekebaby** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 01:04

Just popped in and tried Slacko on my steam-powered Toughbook CF-T2. Unlike Lucid, video is stable and does not crash randomly. Vesa is solid. Xorg doesn't crash at all, but it's giving me lots of tiny artifacts. Best way to describe it is little squares that obscure the lower half of some random letters. I'll try to play around some more later on and get a good screen shot (if that's possible) and some benchmarks.

This computer seems to be real picky with Xorg and video drivers; my guess is that Slacko is just too modern for this dinosaur. Wary video is and has always been solid, probably due to the fact that Barry uses an older Xorg.

Will test Slacko on a Dell C610 later on as well. Slacko 5.3 runs perfectly on that machine, as does Lucid and Wary.

jim3630 · #151 Post by **jim3630** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 01:21

playdayz's tor pets run in any puppy I've tried. tor browser bundle will run oob in any puppy I've tried with only one character changed in it's code.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71706

tor always changes your ip and you can add this line "ExitNodes {de}" in the tor torrc configuration file to even specify what country {country code}for your ip.

tor does not recommend running as root as it is easy to break it's provided safety by users adding browser addons.

running as root is supported inside tor as seen in the exert of commands below.

"Shell source file that creates wrappers for convenient usage of tor.

This script creates aliases and wrappers for network programs to direct them through the tor (the onion router) network for anonymity. Since 14th December 2005 this is especially useful in the EU. Just source this file from your ~/.bashrc (add the line ’. tor_aliases’) and continue to use your programs as usual.
Currently these commands (not program suites) are ’torified’:
- telnet
- ssh, scp (not slogin, sftp...)
- BitTorrent (the official one, written in python, not BitComet...)
- irssi
- everything that uses the HTTP_PROXY or http_proxy environment variables:
- KDE
- gpg
- wget
- curl
- svn"

Sage · #152 Post by **Sage** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 07:31

5.3.1 -scsi-main is a considerable innovation. Doesn't require an X restart to activate Flash - nice! No problems so far.
Too much BS about /root /user. Agree with Lob - it's my kit, it's my risk. These control freaks should MYOB. Access to root running is mandatory if there's a lot of file manipulation and transfer to undertake and many of the majors, even including post-9 version of Mint, disallow this. Utterly crazy. Are these guys too indolent to bend down and switch off their router?!

DaveS · #153 Post by **DaveS** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 07:40

Indolent... cool. loadsa syllables. Much nicer than 'lazy'

Sage · #154 Post by **Sage** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 09:04

Huh! You a mind-reader, DS? Guess which word I chose for the first draft...

nooby · #155 Post by **nooby** » Tue 13 Dec 2011, 11:03

I trust them are not lazy, them feel utterly responsible so
allowing us to be root goes against their conscience something.

The way I "install" ubuntu now allow me to do anything even without
doing sudo su or any of that stuff. Okay to reboot I may have to write
sudo reboot but that could be due to me not knowing gnome or kde

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