Saluki

[futwerk]

a couple of new saluki backgrounds.

[aarf]

saluki will write files to /mnt/k8GB even when my sdcard labeled k8GB is not inserted.

[roadkill13]

I have installed Saluki 019 to my Acer Aspire One AOD255-2301.

I have been using it for several days now. Everything seems to work with the exception of the ENE Card Reader. I have transferred pictures and movies from a Sony digital camera and an IPAD2 successfully. I have downloaded and burned cd images with an Asus external usb cd/dvd-rw drive. The package manager has worked just fine. I am using the Opera web browser from the repository to post this message.

As for the card reader I had built a module from the preconfigured source code that I found on the Ubuntu Launch Pad some time ago. I had built the module for Ubuntu derivatives and then for Lucid puppy. I found that I could use the one I built for Lucid by copying the keucr.ko module to the appropriate folder even if the kernel was a different than the original 2.6.33.2 kernel used with Lucid.

However that has not worked with any of the 3.x kernels that I have tried. I have read that the source code is for systems using a 2.x kernel. I have thus far been unsuccessful in building the module for the card reader. So far I have been able to use work arounds. I also dual boot with Lucid 5.28 v5 which does work with the module that I built.

I also have installed and used a wireless HP Photosmart Printer with a previous save file.

This is a beautiful piece of work. I am enjoying it immensely. Thank you for the opportunity to test this operating system.

[jemimah]

I have been using it for several days now. Everything seems to work with the exception of the ENE Card Reader. I have transferred pictures and movies from a Sony digital camera and an IPAD2 successfully. I have downloaded and burned cd images with an Asus external usb cd/dvd-rw drive. The package manager has worked just fine. I am using the Opera web browser from the repository to post this message.

As for the card reader I had built a module from the preconfigured source code that I found on the Ubuntu Launch Pad some time ago. I had built the module for Ubuntu derivatives and then for Lucid puppy. I found that I could use the one I built for Lucid by copying the keucr.ko module to the appropriate folder even if the kernel was a different than the original 2.6.33.2 kernel used with Lucid.

However that has not worked with any of the 3.x kernels that I have tried. I have read that the source code is for systems using a 2.x kernel. I have thus far been unsuccessful in building the module for the card reader. So far I have been able to use work arounds. I also dual boot with Lucid 5.28 v5 which does work with the module that I built.

I also have installed and used a wireless HP Photosmart Printer with a previous save file.

This is a beautiful piece of work. I am enjoying it immensely. Thank you for the opportunity to test this operating system.

Keucr is already included with the 3.2 kernel. If it's not autoloading, you can force it to load using "Configure Kernel Modules" in the control panel. You'll probably want a new save file since the keucr you added is broken and will probably screw things up.

[jemimah]

Out of curiosity, why init.d/fuse is in /sbin?
leftover? magic?...

No idea. Barry made the package that way. I'll fix it and see if anything breaks.

[jemimah]

Using a Live media Saluki19. I have tested the Custom Builder to completion where an adrive_lukixxx.sfs was created upon completion.

Scenario 1
The completion gives instructions on how to use the "adrive....sfs" for a "frugal" use..

Problem, (but not a bug)

• How should the Custom Builder be used for creating an ISO once this "adrive....sfs" is saved, at any point in the future?

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Scenario 2
This is grey-area for me. There seems to be a discrepancy with what is a dependency and whether a needed library is a dependency. The Custom Builder pics below show that the Custom Builder on one hand is saying all is well, but if you ask it to verify "all is well" it comes back and says "all is NOT well!" ... ???

Problem

• Can the Custom Builder resolve this problem without manual (external to the Custom Builder) research and intervention guess-work?
• Since proper lib presence is key to proper subsystem/application operations, should the Custom Builder be stopping for these status messages... shouldn't it necessarily launch the check for missing libraries for all users without asking?

Note: Judging from the messages JRE-JAVA needs attention in Saluki as well as LIbreOffice. I am aware of the work of @Pemasu & @01Micko on latest LIbreOffice V3.50 if this will help in any way.

There's two kinds of dependencies - the one the packager specifies and can be resolved with the ppm, and dynamic lib deps that can be found with ldd (but can not be fixed with the ppm - must be fixed manually). Ideally, the packager specifies all the ldd deps in the package spec.

In the case of "portable" packages like jre and libre-office, which are not compiled on saluki, there can be missing libs like this but everything still works ok. It would not be correct to list kde and such as dependencies. The right course of action is probably to remove the libs with missing deps from the package. The reason you haven't seen these errors before is that nobody else is checking for them.

In any case, everything will be fine if you proceed after that error.

[jemimah]

Saluki-020 has been released. Hopefully this will be the final RC.

[DaveS]

'20' seems the best yet, lovely thanks.....

[aarf]

Code: Select all

wget -4c http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/aarf/luki/luki-019.iso___luki-020.iso.delta

<5MB

[James C]

Seems to be working pretty well here too......

[roadkill13]

Keucr is already included with the 3.2 kernel. If it's not autoloading, you can force it to load using "Configure Kernel Modules" in the control panel. You'll probably want a new save file since the keucr you added is broken and will probably screw things up.

I did ditch the tainted save file. Thanks. I also found the keucr module in the boot manager via the control panel. I added that module and rebooted. It does not work at this time. The cards are not mounted in Saluki as they are in Lucid.

Sorry about the lengthy log posting above. I did this on the fly and did not realize I had managed to paste the whole thing into the post. I will take that out

I have been on the road these past few days and am quite fatigued. I probably should not be doing this now.

[battleshooter]

It's a long time coming, but I've been wanting to just give a bit of a rant on Saluki. (Engineer rant so it'll be in bullet points ) Pertains to Saluki 19 and earlier, haven't downloaded 20 yet.

Like:

• - Like the different selection of programs XFCE based rather than the general Puppy "P" variety. There's nothing wrong with them, but it's nice for a change to try stuff that's being developed by the wider Linux community.
  
  - Much more modern themes to choose from.
  
  - Love that the PPM now has an option to download the package to keep, it actually makes the PPM useable for me, I swap Pupsaves so often and have a limited internet connection so downloading over and over again isn't an option for me. In the past I'd just go to the repository via web browser.
  
  - Sven is a fantastic touch. Just set your hotkeys, and for any WM, everything is set. Beautiful!
  
  - Repository is fantastic, I really like that I can just look up what I want instead of searching through the forum.
  
  - Real transparency... what can I say, eyecandy dream come true Actually I like it how Saluki is eyecandy friendly.
  
  - Acceleration out of the box, awesome.

Like, but dodgy:

• - I like Xnoise, a media library that deals with video as well as audio. However it crashes if you drag media from Thunar.
  
  - Gnac would love it if it worked, but it crashes for me when converting flv to MP3 and pressing convert. Converting from flv to other formats seems to work fine.

I tried to record all my little thoughts on Saluki as I've used it in the last few months, but I'm sure there are other things I find great that I've forgotten about. Anyway, thought I'd just throw in some feedback into the fishpond. Thanks for Saluki Jemimah

[shelezyaka]

Code: Select all

wget -4c http://puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/aarf/luki/luki-019.iso___luki-020.iso.delta

<5MB

thank you

[mavrothal]

Saluki-020 has been released. Hopefully this will be the final RC.

Assuming devx 019 should be renamed 020?

[Sage]

v.20
Frisbee isn't picking up SiS190 NIC, nor SNS.
Safest default may be Dougal's? All the other variants seem to find SiS NICs.
Later:
Ah ha! That was a FULL upgrade from v.19. Cannot get sound to work at all now, not even with ALSA. It was working from the liveCD.
Will reinstall the entire edifice!
Even later:
Complete wipe & FULL install seems to have cleared issues, so advice is not to attempt upgrade.

[peebee]

Hi Jemimah

I know it's not hard to get me confused.......

But grateful if you could clarify - even though k3.2.13 sources are in the repo and the first page mentions pemasu's k3.2.13 pae kernel

Saluki 020 is still using k3.2.8 ..........??

see screenies

Thanks
peebee

[shevan]

for saluki wiki

compiling ati with oficial amd installer
1. get latest amd installer
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/l ... linux.aspx
2. Load SFS - Dev & kernel sources (tested with kernel 3.2.8 which is default)
3. Exit to promt
4. sh amd-driver-installer-12-4-x86.x86_64.run --keep

if compiling fails then
5. cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/
6. patch -p1 < /path/to/patch
7. ./make.sh
8. cd ..
9. ./make_install.sh
10. aticonfig --initial

xwin to load desktop. reboot not required

[mdisaster2]

Tried Saluki under Virtualbox.

Without the Virtualbox Guest Additions it is usable - the only catch is to disable Mouse Integration from the virtual machine dropdown menu.

However the Guest Addition installation fails in a new and unexpected way (with other Puppies it usually complains about not been able to start services, which is fixable, or crashes when trying to start X, which may be fixable or not).

I used Virtualbox 4.10, Saluki 0.20, the 19 devx sfs renamed to 20, and the 3.2.8 kernel sources sfs. I also did all the required preliminary stuff (make oldconfig, create a vboxadd user, etc). Here are the messages generated by the install script.

# /mnt/cdrom/VBoxLinuxAdditions.run
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing VirtualBox 4.1.10 Guest Additions for Linux.........
VirtualBox Guest Additions installer
Removing installed version 4.1.10 of VirtualBox Guest Additions...
Removing existing VirtualBox DKMS kernel modules ...done.
Removing existing VirtualBox non-DKMS kernel modules ...done.
Building the VirtualBox Guest Additions kernel modules
Building the main Guest Additions module ...done.
Building the shared folder support module ...done.
Building the OpenGL support module ...done.
Doing non-kernel setup of the Guest Additions ...done.
Starting the VirtualBox Guest Additions ...fail!
(modprobe vboxguest failed)
Installing the Window System drivers
Installing X.Org Server 1.11 modules ...done.
Setting up the Window System to use the Guest Additions ...done.
You may need to restart the hal service and the Window System (or just restart
the guest system) to enable the Guest Additions.

Installing graphics libraries and desktop services components ...done.

The vbox modules (actually they are three of them) are created into /lib/modules/3.2.8-ski/misc (where I also found ndiswrapper.ko, so I assumed it is supposed to be used), The boot manager allows me to select the three vbox* modules, but they don't get installed after reboot. Trying to do it manually modprobe -v says that the module doesn't exist,

Anything else I could try ?

[roadkill13]

Hi Jemimah,

I am now in Saluki 020. The keucr module is not loading. I used your instructions from a previous post and used "Configure Kernel Modules" in an attempt to force the module to load. This does not work. The keucr module does not load.

I issued the modprobe keucr command from console followed by lsmod. The keucr module was added to the list.

keucr 47302 0

Saluki still does not recognize the ENE card reader.

[pemasu]

I remember that at the beginning of 3.X kernels...keucr module was dispatched of SD card handling and it was diverted to some ums* modules. And during that process it has been broken at some time. I dont know what is the needed module with 3.2.8 kernel and if everything needed has been included. I havent heard anybody so far got it working with 3.2 kernels with Puppies.
So the status of ums* modules is unknown for me, there has been naming changes during the development, so I dont know the name of them in 3.2.8 kernel.

If somebody wants to dig to the handling...I would appreciate the information.

EDIT. Found this:
CONFIG_USB_ENESTORAGE: USB ENE card reader support
General informations

The Linux kernel configuration item CONFIG_USB_ENESTORAGE has multiple definitions:
USB ENE SM card reader support found in drivers/staging/keucr/Kconfig

The configuration item CONFIG_USB_ENESTORAGE:

prompt: USB ENE SM card reader support
type: tristate
depends on: CONFIG_USB && CONFIG_SCSI && CONFIG_m
defined in drivers/staging/keucr/Kconfig
found in Linux kernels: 3.1–3.3, 3.4-rc+HEAD
modules built: keucr

Help text

Say Y here if you wish to control a ENE SM Card reader. To use SD/MS card, please build driver/usb/storage/ums-eneub6250.ko

This option depends on 'SCSI' support being enabled, but you probably also need 'SCSI device support: SCSI disk support' (BLK_DEV_SD) for most USB storage devices.

To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called keucr.

Due to my hdd crash. My linux partition is somewhat empty still. I dont have Saluki installed to check the kernel modules content.