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ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Tman I rebuilt Barry's Seamonkey package that racy uses and added adblock, new theme, search engines, etc please use the browser package for your woof builds, it took 1.5 days to make it up.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... .2-w52.pet

http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Racy/se ... _entry.txt

ttuuxxx

Wow..1.5 days. Thanks very much for your persistence. Before murga went down Jemimah and I were discussing creating a repo for Saluki at smokey01.com. Jemimah is insistent on using Midori, but Seamonkey can definately go into the repository, along with Firefox (my default browser). Plus Midori is small, so it cuts down on the size of the iso. Also, Seamonkey was at version 2.4.1 the last time I checked (they update way tooo fast), but I could probably repackage your Seamonkey with your custom addons..unless you compiled it specifically for Saluki.

Hi Jemimah

Posting from saluki-alpha using midori now - absolutely superb.

Good to see what your plans for mainline puppy are.

Thanks for an outstanding compact browser.

Very best regards - Ray

Sage wrote:Saluki5.2.2alpha.

Interesting. It works - good news. Roll your own browser - good, in principle. Chose FF, pile of ancillary libs missing, couldn't find some, couldn't remember others. Forced to pick SM ! Arrggh....

Sage,
If you want a small Internet Apps downloader, I have attached it below:
You can get Flashplayer, Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera and Gnome-Office.
I tested them for SolidPup (Wary-5.1.1 based), so they will be fine in Saluki.
I will probably make it availiable in the 'additional pets' section, but want to improve it first.

Edit: I have made a new version of GetPackage that you can get -> here.

FWIW, SeaMonkey is up to 2.5 now.

I don't know what I am missing here, but here is what I have found so far.
Installation of Seamonkey 2 and above seems to be missing libjpg.so.8 and even after install, the browser icon does not seem to start it.
I can start it from a terminal with the same command shown in /usr/local/defaultbrowser.

Also, other applications that are missing but have a desktop icon are
write - no abiword
calc - no gnumeric
paint - no mtpaint

I know it is a work in progress, but a small working browser would be good also.

Also, a bit off subject, but the flashing icons above the message window on the forum are distracting as hell and some could blame them for seizures. So not a good addition in my humble opinion.

Additional, Tman and others, Seamonkey when installed is as I stated above. And that was Seamonkey 2.05.

Midori tested working ok in Slacko . Flash testing with video ok too.

If you run Slacko and want to install jemimah's midori you need to symlink libssl.so.0.9.8 to 1.0.0

About the kernel. I remember reading one of Pemasu threads saying that Barry's 2.6.9.4 kernel was missing something in the compile, but can't remember exactly what that thing was...maybe it was bluetooth. I am not sure if we should stick with that kernel or go with another one atm. We should hold off compiling of drivers until this gets sorted out.

James C wrote:FWIW, SeaMonkey is up to 2.5 now.

Seamonkey 2.5 . I guess I have to make new packages. Firefox updated as well. . I'll work on it tommorrow. Thanks James C.

jemimah wrote:
I've got a nearly working static Midori - still need to get ssl working, and figure out which version of webkitgtk is the most stable.

If you want, I can build it with html5 video support, which uses gstreamer. Then we'd pull out all of the multimedia applications and replace with gstreamer-based ones. I think that should save a good amount of size.

If your going to use gstreamer, consider phonon, it's a good system and stable! might replace a few other things while at it.

The Phonon multimedia library and its backend plugins being:
Phonon DirectShow
Phonon GStreamer
Phonon MMF
Phonon MPlayer
Phonon QuickTime
Phonon VLC
Phonon WaveOut
Phonon Xine

Oh yes, and the url is http://phonon.kde.org/.

regards
scsijon

ps Tman ff8 causes problems with Thunderbird/Eudora If directly installed, not via an ff7>ff8 upgrade.

Barry`s 2.6.39.4 kernel (.config) misses bluetooth modules. I compiled them as modules backwards and included them to the kernel pet. I dont remember straight if it did miss anything other important. People got their bluetooth connections working using stu90`s pet for handling. But Jemimah is knowledgeable of bluetooth stuff.

scsijon wrote:...
ps Tman ff8 causes problems with Thunderbird/Eudora If directly installed, not via an ff7>ff8 upgrade.

What kind of issues, specifically?

Pemasu,
Thanks! I was hoping to get a response from you.

Tman wrote:About the kernel. I remember reading one of Pemasu threads saying that Barry's 2.6.9.4 kernel was missing something in the compile, but can't remember exactly what that thing was...maybe it was bluetooth. I am not sure if we should stick with that kernel or go with another one atm. We should hold off compiling of drivers until this gets sorted out.

It's definitely missing suspend/hibernate capability. If we collect a list of other stuff we want, I can rebuild it or we can try to talk Barry into adding the missing items.

jemimah wrote:..If we collect a list of other stuff we want, I can rebuild it or we can try to talk Barry into adding the missing items.

I think you should talk to ttuuxxx about kernel-related stuff, cause I don't know too much about the specific details of the kernel compile process. I'm sure whatever you decide will be good.

Here's a preliminary list of changes I would like to make.

Remove (redundant, unnecessary, not user-friendly, or better in repo):
xfontsel
pdisk
wakepup
prename
floppy formatter
gwhere
leafpad
e3
puppyPDF
homebank
planner
xcalc
ycalc
pplog
precord

Replace:
urxvt - lxterminal
pprocess - lxtask
seamonkey - midori
mp - nano
epdfview - evince
cgtkcalc - galculator
ptiming - gstpw
ayttm, meebo - pidgin
puppy podcast grabber
ssh-gui - puTTY
pmusic - goggles
xarchive - xarchiver
pswget - uget

Add:
Control Panel
powertop
gtksplitter
turma2

ddrescue
extundelete
gadmin-rsync
photorec
testdisk

fotoxx
dia
fbreader
gaiksaurus

gadmin-openvpn
vpnc
gadmin-sshd
Remmina

streamtuner
stardict

lightsword alarm clock
gworldclock
sgtt

libjpg.so.8

had the same missing dependency
Look forward to midori in next ISO (early days - thanks Tman)
Having a basic browser and then a browser choice (as in Lucid)
works.

Choice of programs/substitutes seems sound

Can anyone tell me the name of the font used in this?

Hi all

Potential problem - no wifi working with Broadcom (is it wl.ko)? driver.

Just tried saluki on new laptop - Emachines (Acer) E732
and sadly no go with wifi.

I'm guessing the solution is kernel related and the appropriate modules
need to be activated (or whatever the proceedure is) but being a n00b,
I don't know how to do it.

I do know that racyNOP-5.2.2 with the later k3.0.7 kernel works 'cos
I just tried it.

Am sure Jemimah knows what's best - later kernel or tweek this one.

Many of the recently released budget (and expensive) laptops seem to have Broadcom wifi - and therefore - a large number of potential users
could be left wondering what to do.

Regarding acpi and suspend / resume etc, pemasu's ICE and DX series pup's have acpi etc working, as do the fatdog64 series puppy's.

Is it as simple as copying the folders over into saluki?
Probably not - but maybe some of what's there may be useful.

Hope the solutions don't produce too many headaches.

Thanks again to you all and very best regards - Ray

Ray MK,

Broadcom wifi drivers will be in the final release. I'm positive that Jemimah will fix the acpi suspend/resume issue. Thank you for the input.

Thanks Tman

Nice puppy - works really well on Acer TM 243LC with only 256mb ram.

Using it now with J's midori - really fast.

Next - try it on the EeePC 701SD - will feedback.
(Probably tomorrow as it is late here now)

Thanks again and best regards - Ray

Quick test run live pfix=ram on my main Linux box. Sound and internet working on initial boot..... had to run through xorgwizard to get my desired 1440x900 resolution.Simple enough though.
Installed Opera 11.52 since I had it handy, working fine.

# report-video
Saluki, version 5.2.2 on Mon 28 Nov 2011

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

Not real impressive,but working ootb.....
# glxgears
563 frames in 5.0 seconds = 112.530 FPS
572 frames in 5.0 seconds = 114.212 FPS
576 frames in 5.0 seconds = 114.898 FPS
570 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.983 FPS
557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.345 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (157MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 28 Nov 2011 09:30:15 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.39.4 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Tue Sep 13 23:40:41 GMT-8 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034016 408872 625144 0 34244
-/+ buffers: 374628 659388
Swap: 1228936 0 1228936
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