LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final - a Paradise Puppy

[sunburnt]

Sorry about the delayed reply, my main PC just died crippling me.

Sq.Apps are configured with: --prefix ( Path to Mount Point )
This sets the path where the app. is installed to, and also
where the app. expects to find it`s dependencies at.
App. C code has RPATH and CPATH that is set by this.
Anyone experienced in compiling should have no trouble with it.

Static built packages are more robust and run on more Linuxes.
Sure they`re bigger but media apps. are really library picky.
So the more that`s compiled in the greater chance it`ll work.

I only have built Mahjongg and Dead Meat music player Sq.Apps.

I can post my files for you to examine if you like...


minesadorada`s "find" for booting Puppy sounds great!
Does it make a menu of all found bootable O.Ss.?

[minesadorada]

minesadorada`s "find" for making boot menus sounds great!
Does it make a menu of all found bootable O.Ss.?

It doesn't make a menu. It just searches all available hard disk partitions for the frugal subdirectory. I have 7 hard disks on my system some with multiple partitions, and it's easy to forget which (hdn,n) each installaton is on. Besides, I don't want menu.lst to break if I change my system disk setup.

This Grub4DOS code can find Windows if it exists on a bootable partition:

Code: Select all

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
 title Windows
   errorcheck off
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
   chainloader /bootmgr
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
   chainloader /ntldr
   find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
   chainloader /io.sys
   errorcheck on

[sunburnt]

That`s great! I`ve been wanting a boot setup for Weeners.
I don`t use it myself but many friends and family still do.

I think there`s a simple way to have code setup a Grub4dos menu with found Puppies.
Then as you say, a change to the PC`s hardware wont break the boot setup.
I`ve changed drives as we all have and had the PC be unbootable. USB time...
At least a default search profile at the bottom to find one Puppy would be good.

[RSH]

LazY Puppy Info Center

I only have built Mahjongg and Dead Meat music player Sq.Apps.

I can post my files for you to examine if you like...

Sorry for late reply - i am just so busy. Yes, please do post your files.

I plan to upload all files of the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 within the next week.

After release of LazY Puppy 2.0.1 i do plan a break of active develpoment for several weeks (except needed bug fixing).

More Information here


RSH

[sunburnt]

RHS; And everyone. I have looked into Tiny Core Linux`s SCM files.
These are TC`s version of SqApp files, and there are a lot of them.

They seem to work fine in Puppy, I think this has been done already.
I`m not very good at compiling apps, so this is an easy way to go.

SCM files seem to be single app. only, SqApp files can have many apps.
Groups of like apps. go well in one Sq. file, media, server, office, etc.
SCM files can have more than one app., but how to tell what`s in it?
The /bin dir. in some scm files is cluttered with files, making it hard to
find the real run files. So then a sort of manifest file is needed to fix it.

SCM files also seem to have no dynamic "mount/umount" at run time.

I`m going to rewrite my auto. menu to use them, I`ll let you know...

Make the dirs. "/apps" and "/mnt/(Partition for Files)/SCM"
Download SCMs and move to "/mnt/(Partition for Files)/SCM"
Make dir. "/apps/(SCM file name, NO extention)
Do: mount -o loop /(Path)/(SCM File) /apps/(SCM mnt. dir.)
Exec. the app`s run script in /bin.

Here`s a link to TC`s repository of SCM files:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/4.x/x86/scm/
.

[sunburnt]

Okay... My Sunday of effort here.
A GtkDialog auto. menu of Tiny Core`s SCM app. files.

This is a link to my scm_kit post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 016#624016[/url]

[RSH]

LazY Puppy Info Center

Thanks for posting your files, sunburnt.

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Introducing the LazY Puppy Run-Scripts:

- LazY Puppy 2.0.1 does not need to load any SFS in front of starting any application inside the sfs
- Just click the menu entry or the run-script of the application and if the SFS is not loaded, it will be loaded automatically
- Does the SFS need any other SFS, it loads the dependent SFS automatically (Lazarus loads autom. the devx)
- Is the sfs not available at LazY Puppy install-directory it will be downloaded automatically (no browser needed)
- After all needed SFS files are loaded, the program runs

This is made using run-scripts. These run-scripts can be created by right-click action on any unmounted/unloaded SFS (converted to LazY Puppy Format) - no matter if in /mnt/home or /mnt/sda3 and it is all really quick and easy to handle.

Here is a video: http://www.mediafire.com/?fyr7qmhfl853ccn it shows: the menu (no wine loaded), removing of wine from usb, trying to start foobar using the run-script, trying to load wine, downloading wine and then loading the sfs and running foobar - all after a single left-click on the run-script. LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will have all the menu entries of all LazYY Puppy SFS programs and these entries do call the related run-script (also all built in).

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Note: do not download the currently available LP2_Wine.sfs at smokey01.com - this is not the original file. It is just for my testings. You must not use this with LazY Puppy 2.0.1.

[RSH]

LazY Puppy Info Center

Hi.

Introducing LazY Puppy 2.0.1 LazY Remaster, no Smart Remaster, no Quick Remaster.

Currently i am doing the last programming steps and some localisations (German) on LazY Puppy 2.0.1. My last big work has been a shell to the puppy remaster function, which gives some comfortably options to remaster the LazY Puppy 2.0.1.

Here some options:

- specify ISO-Name before remastering starts
- specify des ISO-Label before remastering starts

- Option to remaster without possibility to edit /tmp/root and/or /tmp/etc (remaster likely in one step)
- Option to remaster standard (shows all OK- & Cancel-GUIs)
- Option to remaster standard customize (like customizing automatically /tmp/etc)
- Option to remaster full customize (removes /tmp/root and /tmp/etc and copies /root and /etc completely to /tmp (might work only in this (your used) remaster pc)

- Option to choose creating ISO and/or burn CD/DVD

All of these options can be set before the remaster starts.

Tomorrow hopefully finished the programming work and then need one more day to create and test the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 sfs files (some new programs inside the sfs suites and also available as single apps (sfs)).

So, hopefully i can upload all files on Friday, 11th of Mai 2012.

RSH

[RSH]

LazY Puppy Info Center

Finally introducing:

LazY Puppy 2.0.1 Remaster Suite

Basic options (tab 1):

- specify ISO-Name before remastering starts
- specify des ISO-Label before remastering starts

- Option to remaster without possibility to edit /tmp/root and/or /tmp/etc (remaster likely in one step)
- Option to remaster standard (shows all OK- & Cancel-GUIs)
- Option to remaster standard customize (like customizing automatically /tmp/etc)
- Option to remaster full customize (removes /tmp/root and /tmp/etc and copies /root and /etc completely to /tmp (might work only in this (your used) remaster pc)

- Option to choose creating ISO and/or burn CD/DVD



Extended options (tab 2):

from /etc

- keep file: codepage
- keep file: desktop_icon_theme
- keep file: hostname
- keep file: hosts
- keep file: keymap
- keep file: profile
- keep file: localtime
- keep file: PuppyBackgroundPicture
- keep file: windowmanager
- keep file: .numlock_set_on

from /root and sub dirs

- updating directory: .my-sfs-scripts
- updating directory: .my-sfs-lists
- updating directory: FbPanel
- updating directory: Openbox
- updating directory: IceWM
- updating directory: JWM
- updating directory: my-documents
- updating directory: Startup

- updating several desktop settings

from /etc

- keep changes in DISTRO_SPECS

- plus: button (option) to unload unwanted sfs files before remastering



Currently doing this post from a new remaster used the LazY Puppy 2.0.1 Remaster Suite!

[RSH]

LazY Puppy Info Center

Sorry for the delay to upload the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1. I am sure LazY Puppy LazY Remaster Suite is worth waiting a little longer.

LazY Puppy LazY Remaster Suite - Part 3

New Options:

- automatically Install of Programs (no database entry)
- installing images to /usr/share/backgrounds
- installing sounds to /usr/share/audio
- installing icons (png) to /usr/share/pixmaps
- installing icons (xpm) to /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons

- remove symbolic links (empty the directories)



I am now back to the basic work and will hopefully upload the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 on Sunday 13. May 2012

RSH

[minesadorada]

Any sign of 2.01 soon?

[RSH]

Any sign of 2.01 soon?

YES!

Hello, minesadorada.

LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will be available for download on Sunday, 20th of May 2012. Actually: between Su 20.05.2012 22:00 and Mo 21.05.2012 06:00 (Time is Local Time Germany)

I have almost finished the main work and just need to do some testings and polishings of the new LazY Puppy 2.0.1 functions (and some old ones of course).

My latest work is the LazY Puppy SFS-Installer wich is an available option in the package manager .pet install routine. It converts .pet automatically to .sfs, converts the .sfs to LazY Puppy Format and creates run-scripts from the program/s inside the sfs (just 3 or 4 clicks by the user to enter the sfs-dependencies and/or select the programs to make run-scripts of). If finished, it opens the /root directory where you can find the new sfs to copy to your boot location. Then clicking the run-script or the menu entry (if added to the system on making run-script) and run and use the application just as installed.

You did notice my last information on LazY Puppy SFS P.L.U.S. and Remaster Suite (some of the posts above)?



You can also use right-click-action on .pet to run the sfs-installer without the use of the package manager install GUI.



You will mostly see some yaf-splash's come and go...

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At boot up there are 64 mount points for Lazy Puppy SFS files available. This can be increased by the LazY Puppy Mount.Point.Increaser (LP2 MPI). It adds 36 mount points on every run to the system (i have increased the mount points up to 1003 a few minutes ago).

The LazY Puppy Flush-RAM is to flush the ram. This could be necessary if you are building a lot of sfs files in a row - using the ram option. There could be some ram-splitting which could result in an unsuccessful try to use a newly created run-script (or older ones). The nice icon is made by Barkin.

LazY Puppy SFS P.L.U.S. includes now 9 applications:



LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will be a challenge to each and every other puppy (derivative)...

[RSH]

Hello!

I am pleased to announce: LazY Puppy 2.0.1 is on the way!

The time now is 11:00 AM in Germany and I have already uploaded most of the files. Only a few files and then some tests (downloads etc) and LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will be available to download.

I assume that LazY Puppy 2.0.1 will be available to download at 16:00 (Local TIme Germany).

RSH

[RSH]

Hello!

It is done!

LazY Puppy 2.0.1 is ready to download!

Download Links are at the End of the first Post!

There is now a DE-ISO and a EN-ISO (boots into English Desktop).

RSH

[minesadorada]

Lazy 2.01 frugal install
Quad-core 4GB RAM Radeon 9800

Initial report:

Fires up 1st time no problem. Display and network card autoconfigured.
Lazarus 9.30 works great. Save file loads/saves and backs up. The OS feels quick and responsive.

Good job Rainer!

Problems:

1 ) Same problem with CUPS Administration tab as all other Lazy installations - '500 Internal Server Error' so I cannot install my local HP printer in Lazy. This time, it was the first thing I tried before installing anything, so the CUPS problem comes with the OS.

The only other Puppy that has the same problem is Slacko. All other puppies install my USB HP printer via CUPS just fine.

2 ) Network/Internet Applications/Flash updater
It shows a 'Wait' dialog, then spawns another one... then another one...
..every few seconds, automatically and without limit. Nothing else happens.
The only cure is a reboot.

I haven't tried the new sfs features yet.

[minesadorada]

I thought to try Start/Graphic/Raster Graphic Editors/Hugin

A dialog popped up to day it was downloading Hugin. After a couple of minutes with no progress happening, I killed the dialog.

Tried again, and this time left the dialog alone, and it eventually loaded and installed OK.

I think it is really important to inform the user of progress when a 'wait' dialog of any sort appears. Otherwise it is difficult to tell if it is working or not.

When I clicked 'Hugin Batch Processor' I got an error dialog.

When I ran 'PLogo' it complained of 'bad fonts' and eventually crashed when using 'Courier' as a font. It also only worked in monochrome.


==update==
Unable to shutdown. This is the second time I had to do a hard reset to get out of the system.

I will go back to Lazy 2.0 - version 2.01 is too unstable for me to use

[RSH]

I thought to try Start/Graphic/Raster Graphic Editors/Hugin

A dialog popped up to day it was downloading Hugin. After a couple of minutes with no progress happening, I killed the dialog.

Tried again, and this time left the dialog alone, and it eventually loaded and installed OK.

I think it is really important to inform the user of progress when a 'wait' dialog of any sort appears. Otherwise it is difficult to tell if it is working or not.

When I clicked 'Hugin Batch Processor' I got an error dialog.

When I ran 'PLogo' it complained of 'bad fonts' and eventually crashed when using 'Courier' as a font. It also only worked in monochrome.


==update==
Unable to shutdown. This is the second time I had to do a hard reset to get out of the system.

I will go back to Lazy 2.0 - version 2.01 is too unstable for me to use

Yes, i did notice: there are some issues with 2.0.1 - but not like you discribed.

Downloading a file can take some 8a lot of) time, so the user just have to wait until the message is closed. If download fails, the user gets informed. If download succeeds, the program runs after download (so, the user also gets informed).

Some menu entries did not find their run-scripts - maybe hugin batch is like that. i am checking this out.

PLogo is as is - i do have the same issues, but deceide to install - even though it works partial.

I do not have any shutdown problems.

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Curently working on bug fixes and nice updates - 2.0.2 is on the way.

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Currently 145 iso downloads and only one message of problems - seems alright to me, so far.

By the way: a that much hard job (SFS PLUS, Remaster Suite etc) resulting in these smart functions done by a beginner of bash - there must have been some issues. I am just glad about there not more issues...

Sorry to hear you are going back to 2.0...
...i will do my best on 2.0.2!

RSH

[minesadorada]

No problem Rainer. I know you were anxious to meet a deadline, and I am grateful for the efforts you make for Lazy Puppy.

A bit more careful testing/bugfixing and it will be good to go.

[RSH]

When I clicked 'Hugin Batch Processor' I got an error dialog.

I have examined this - and, yes: this is one of the menu entries that has not found its run-script.

I do use the sed command to replace the "Exec=" entry inside the .desktop file (menu entry). Currently it does not find entries using a parameter (like: Exec=PTBatcherGUI %F in Hugin Batch). I have solved this and it's been gone. Just added double quotes at the sed command (this quote and double quote stuff sometimes is really confusing!!!).

When I ran 'PLogo' it complained of 'bad fonts' and eventually crashed when using 'Courier' as a font. It also only worked in monochrome.

I forgot: i do have a fonts SFS with over 800 ttf fonts inside the sfs. No Problems with PLogo using this SFS. Have made now a LazY Puppy signature unsing PLogo and the fonts SFS, that looks really fine.

I think it is really important to inform the user of progress when a 'wait' dialog of any sort appears. Otherwise it is difficult to tell if it is working or not.

I did solve this also. In LazY Puppy 2.0.2 the user will get full information of download status. I was able to modify the PPM skript "download_file" to use it with my own files at the server of smokey01. Just 2 modifications on the download directory and adding one line in the very beginning of the original script and it works.

There are also some new features on the SFS-Installer (batch mode) and the Remaster-Suite (adding files to iso) f.e. More on that later...

[greengeek]

Hi, I would like to try Lazy 2, but I see that the downloads area mentions the following:
LazY Puppy Release 2 - ISO
BugFix & Update PET 01
Does this mean I need to download the iso, install it, then download the bugfix and install it aswell?
So running from the Live CD would just have bugs?
Thank you!