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LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final - a Paradise Puppy
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LazY Puppy


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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Wed 02 Dec 2015, 13:30    Post subject:  

It's a bit of a mix of both.

All the .sfs Modules are made from Master .sfs Modules, so windowmanager_vivid_beta2.sfs, windowmanager_tahr_6.0.2.sfs etc.pp. are created from the LP3_JWM-MenuPipes.sfs and so on...

The initrd.gz needs to be re-created separately for each Puppy Linux System which depends on a few additions to the init script and a lot of more additions to the DISTRO_SPECS - just done by doing a manually search for RSH and executing Copy and Paste from one init Script the another init Script (also on the DISTRO_SPECS).

Then there are 22 equal Files that are just added to each initrd.gz, where most are small Scripts. One is a default T.O.P.L.E.S.S. Wallpaper and there are two .desktop Files to be able to switch Desktop Icons on/off if booted with Desktop Icons off.

A special case is /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit which needs to be modified also separately between Precise on one Hand and the new WoofCE Puppy Systems on the other Hand.

Basically when I'm in the Flow it takes appr. 15 Minutes to create T.O.P.L.E.S.S. for a new Puppy.

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greengeek


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PostPosted: Wed 02 Dec 2015, 14:26    Post subject:  

LazY Puppy wrote:
And I will definitely QUIT!

No, not Puppy...

...remastering!

Laughing

This sounds like very good news. I think it is a "bad thing" when the main puppy sfs keeps it's same name during a remaster yet has completely different contents. If you can avoid remastering (so that the puppy sfs always keeps the same name and contents) then it eliminates confusion and keeps any personalisations outside of the main puppy sfs.

Sounds like great progress!
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LazY Puppy


Joined: 21 Nov 2014
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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Wed 02 Dec 2015, 15:31    Post subject:  

Yes, I don't like it anyway when the main puppy sfs keeps its same name when remastered, that's why I did re-name all my published Derivatives like LazY Puppy, L.A.S.S.I.E. etc. but also my private Puppy Derivatives.

My intention to quit the remaster Process comes from trouble in a few details when doing a remaster first time. In LazY Puppy (Lucid based) it was the pppoe that didn't work any longer. In L.A.S.S.I.E. (Precise based) it was hardinfo that didn't work any longer.

After doing LazY Puppy and before doing L.A.S.S.I.E. plus all the new Programs included I thought about of how to make Remasters more or less automated, doing it just one Time and doing all in a single Process which makes me invent the LazY Puppy ISO BUilder - based on Woofy by scOttman, used to build L.A.S.S.I.E. 001 & 002.

So L.A.S.S.I.E. 001 & 002 were just remastered once from the original ISO installing all Packages and doing all Changes in a single Process, returning the new renamed Puppy derivative. Though, hardinfo won't work any longer.

So I felt in Love with configuring a Puppy to the needs just by a external config File which made me creating the Topic Getting closer... or ...editing the initrd.gz. In between I tried to create a temporary LazY Puppy from unremastered Puppy Systems when creating the Topic A vote for a modular use of Puppy.

T.O.P.L.E.S.S. is the answer to a question by mikeb, related to SARA B. and L.A.S.S.I.E.
mikeb wrote:
Women and now TV dogs... what next?! Very Happy

Laughing
and -of course- the improved combination of all of this work done, to keep any Puppy fresh and clean and un-remastered plus to boot them as far as possible configured to the current needs.

Just use boot parameter pconfig=no and the Puppy boots straight to its original setup. If no pconfig is submitted it searches for its default config file ($DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX_DISTRO_VERSION.cfg). Any else submitted parameter for pconfig, like pconfig=monday, will search for the $DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX_DISTRO_VERSION-monday.cfg.

The config file gives lots of options to setup JWM Theme, Icon Theme, SFS Modules loaded, Wallpaper, Startup Sound plus many more. So an almost unlimited number of different Puppy Systems without to do any remaster first or ever...

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec 2015, 03:46    Post subject:  

I love the idea, so that it could be possible to create custom systems easily tailored for various family members for example.

I am thinking of providing short intro to linux for university staff and students focused on using puppy. Your system would give an external means to integrate personalisations almost on the fly, which is what people love to do with their phones and appearance!

There is a big win in here somewhere!
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nic007


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Location: Cradle of Humankind

PostPosted: Thu 03 Dec 2015, 06:33    Post subject:  

Keep the original base SFS and make add-on SFS's of new configurations (make an SFS of a save file)? I just use a few extremely small save files (about 10MB each) for different configurations. Works just as well
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TTW

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Dec 2015, 11:05    Post subject: Lazy Puppy
Subject description: Wifi compatiblity
 

Apologies for posting here and in the LASSIE thread. Wasn't sure which is the most current.


I am interested in LazyPuppy but wondered if it supports my wireless card. I often have problems with the Broadcom controller when trying new puppy variants.

This is what is in my netbook:
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:0510]
Kernel driver in use: brcmsmac

Is this supported?

A separate question my current puppy connects to my home network and shared files using pNethood. Does LazyPuppy have something similar?

Basically all our music is stored on a hard drive connected directly to the router so it is available in theory to any device connected to the router. Not all puppys seem to be able to connect though.

Look forward to your answers.

TTW
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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Dec 2015, 11:18    Post subject:  

Best would be just to give it a try.

I'm not a network expert and the only network I'm using is my GPRS Modem to connect to the web.

Sorry, but I don't have any different clues.

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TTW

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec 2015, 05:27    Post subject: Broadcom Wifi  

Ok so I tried it and no it doesn't recognise my wifi card.

I would try to compile a wo driver but can't find the downloads i need

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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2015, 06:30    Post subject: Re: Broadcom Wifi  

TTW wrote:
Ok so I tried it and no it doesn't recognise my wifi card.

I would try to compile a wo driver but can't find the downloads i need

TTW

Maybe LazY Puppy OS is a bit outdated for your wifi card. Probably L.A.S.S.I.E. will recognize it?

If not, a post in the hardware section probably will be much more helpful on this issue. I don't have any knowledge on network and/or compiling and am also do not continue LazY Puppy OS / L.A.S.S.I.E. as I'm recently building my private Puppy Linux Systems temporarily avoiding any need to do a remaster.

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TTW

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2015, 11:49    Post subject: Re: Broadcom Wifi  

LazY Puppy wrote:
TTW wrote:
Ok so I tried it and no it doesn't recognise my wifi card.

I would try to compile a wo driver but can't find the downloads i need

TTW

Maybe LazY Puppy OS is a bit outdated for your wifi card. Probably L.A.S.S.I.E. will recognize it?

If not, a post in the hardware section probably will be much more helpful on this issue. I don't have any knowledge on network and/or compiling and am also do not continue LazY Puppy OS / L.A.S.S.I.E. as I'm recently building my private Puppy Linux Systems temporarily avoiding any need to do a remaster.


doubt it my card is at least three years old. I am missing the kernal sources for Lazy and then I can recompile the rest

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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Dec 2015, 18:59    Post subject:  

Kernel SFS
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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Apr 2016, 19:16    Post subject:  

Since I don't have access anymore to my old RSH account and therefor I'm unable to change the topics title to 'discontinued', I'm going to post here:

THIS IS NOW DISCONTINUED AND NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE!

All my work done is by now combined and continued into T.O.P.L.E.S.S.

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