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Puppy Super Kernel

Posted: Tue 03 Jan 2012, 12:51
by Announcer
This kernel was intended to be kind of an "ideal kernel" for all versions of Puppy Linux.

Similar to this, except now everything works, including live CD booting.

Compiled for x64 with 32-bit emulation, it should work with any modern Puppy. It comes with the BFS patch for improved performance and responsiveness, and is a full-fledged lowlatency PREEMPT kernel.

Edit - this kernel is no longer available.

Re: Puppy Super Kernel

Posted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 10:54
by Shep
Announcer wrote:Similar to this, except now everything works, including live CD booting.

Compiled for x64 with 32-bit emulation,
Just to clarify: is this exclusively for 64 bit processors? Or will it run on a 32 bit machine, too?

Thank you..

Posted: Fri 20 Jan 2012, 06:03
by russoodle
Many thanks for these offerings, Announcer.

It'll be interesting to try on my Mac, being the only 64-bit machine i have....(it seems i've pretty much murdered the poor thing by running Puppies on it, because it no longer behaves well, booting OSX, but i'm posting now from Fatdog 64 :shock: )

Posted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 18:52
by Aitch
Thanks, l0wt3ch/Announcer or whatever name else you use :wink:

Does it have SCSI support as well as PAE?

Would you be willing to share for those who don't have your gift, how to make use of it?

Anyone else?

PS: Shame about the FBI shutting down LEGITIMATE open source file-sharing at megaupload, eh? Damn Criminals!!

Aitch :)

Posted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 21:45
by disciple
Aitch wrote:PS: Shame about the FBI shutting down LEGITIMATE open source file-sharing at megaupload, eh? Damn Criminals!!
Or, "A shame about the FBI stealing everyone's files.
Hopefully that class action lawsuit there was talk of goes ahead...

Posted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 22:45
by disciple
Does this sound familiar?
No person shall be... deprived of ... property, without due process of law
Given that everybody who uploads files without violating copyright isn't doing anything illegal, it seems to me impossible that the US government has taken their property with due process of law.

Posted: Thu 26 Jan 2012, 23:21
by Aitch
This action?

http://womstech.com/2012/01/27/megauplo ... st-the-fbi

http://megaupload.pirata.cat/

l0wtech and/or any other puppians who had posted lawful files on megaupload are entitled to add their name/s to the list

You aren't alone!

http://electronicgadgetreview.com/how-t ... egaupload/

Inside info/behind the scenes

http://www.classactioncentral.com/2012/ ... ne-piracy/

I hadn't intended to sidetrack the thread, my apologies

Aitch :)

Re: Puppy Super Kernel

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 02:46
by James C
Shep wrote:
Announcer wrote:Similar to this, except now everything works, including live CD booting.

Compiled for x64 with 32-bit emulation,
Just to clarify: is this exclusively for 64 bit processors? Or will it run on a 32 bit machine, too?
Pretty sure it's for 64 bit cpu's only but the ability to use regular 32 bit apps out of the box is really handy.Much bigger package selection.

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-Version-
Kernel		: Linux 3.1.0 (x86_64)
Compiled		: #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 2 06:19:35 MST 2012
C Library		: GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler		: Unknown
Distribution		: Unknown distribution

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 02:59
by James C
Aitch wrote:Thanks, l0wt3ch/Announcer or whatever name else you use :wink:

Does it have SCSI support as well as PAE?

Would you be willing to share for those who don't have your gift, how to make use of it?

Anyone else?
Not my kernel build but I've been testing this quite a bit. :) Not sure about SCSI support but since it's 64 bit it does access all of my ram....8 Gb on this box.

I mainly have been running the Slacko 531 live cd from the first post.Works fine. The Pet package for hard drive installs is,I'm fairly certain, only for full installs.http://www.getstudio4.com/full_install-3.1.0.pet

Believe all I had to do was install the pet and then edit the menu.lst to point to the new kernel.Too much testing to remember. :lol:
HTH.

Re: Puppy Super Kernel

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 03:06
by James C
Announcer wrote:l0wt3ch has released a new kernel.
Thanks from me as well......I always enjoy new toys to play with. :)

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 04:59
by p310don
How well does the 32bit emulation work?

I have in the past encouraged the use of PAE kernel over 64bit as it keeps compatibility with the many already compiled 32bit applications for puppy, 64bit's downfall ATM.

If this kernel is good with both 32 and 64bit applications, it's gotta be the best option for puppies on new PCs right?

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 05:18
by James C
p310don wrote:How well does the 32bit emulation work?
I've installed several of the regular 32 bit packages both from Slickpet and the PPM..... everything has worked fine so far.

Posted: Fri 27 Jan 2012, 09:36
by tony
Just tried slacko with this kernel.

It would not create a save file on shutdown.

How many pages of bugs do we have now?

Regards Tony.

Posted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 11:57
by James C
tony wrote: It would not create a save file on shutdown.
I just grabbed shinobar's pupsaveconfig-2.0.1.pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 081#457081
Solved it for me.

Posted: Sat 28 Jan 2012, 16:21
by Aitch
Shep wrote:Just to clarify: is this exclusively for 64 bit processors? Or will it run on a 32 bit machine, too?
I can confirm it is for 64 bit processors only, but does see multiples, i.e. dual, quad, etc
What it does, is enable use of 32 bit software, via emulation, if I understand correctly, as other 64 bit puppy kernels required 64 bit software to be compiled, so it seems very useful, in that respect
It did not work on my dual Xeon 3.2ghz/5gb ram rig, which uses slacko scsi-pae kernel 2.6.39.4 OK

Aitch :)

Posted: Sun 11 Mar 2012, 06:00
by James C
Still been running this quite a bit...... booting with the cd and save file on a usb stick.
Every 32 bit application I've installed has worked fine so far.

Posted: Sun 11 Mar 2012, 20:03
by Jim1911
Sorry that I've overlooked this but today I did try a frugal installation of your slacko iso using the super kernel. The 32-64 bit capability is great, however, all I've gotten to work are 32 bit applications. In fact the Bootmanager will not even recognize 64 bit sfs files. Note there are two located in /mnt/home, but bootmanager cannot find them, see image-3. This is true even of a 64 bit libre office prepared by get-libreoffice-0.13. However, it's good that get-libreoffice did work and recognized that a 64 bit version is required.

The problem is probably due to 64 bit applications being recognized as requiring squashfs version 3, although not the case with 32 bit applications, see image-2.

I did not try converting them to see what happened since I hope that this kernel hasn't taken a step backwards to squashfs version 3.

The only 64 bit pet file that I've tried (pupsnap) did not work.

Best wishes for this potential Super Kernel.

Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2012, 05:39
by kooliepup
Yes, what he said.
Also freq scaling inoperative. :(

I have only just come to trying this kernel, and I am impressed.
After checking it all out live, I tried it using several different Slacko 531 savefiles, and it works flawlessly, even loading high-end apps like Kdenlive almost instantly. :shock:

Slacko on steroids. Nice.

Now for the one single issue I had..
Google's Picassa started and ran fine the first time, but the second time I started it, it sent the computer into thermal runaway, and when it got too hot to touch I couldn't shut the machine down by conventional methods, and had to switch it off.

I let the machine cool down, and when I started Slacko64 again, it ran at 8086 speed.

Deleted and replaced the savefile with another copy of the same, and all was OK.
I didn't run Picasa again, and never will.

Beware Picassa.

Posted: Tue 10 Apr 2012, 23:57
by MinHundHettePerro
Withdrawn, or server hiccup?

http://getstudio4.com/3.1.0-bfs-source.tar.gz

Just wanted to check a setting in your .config; I downloaded it just the other day, unfortunately to /tmp :shock:.

Cheers/ MHHP

Posted: Wed 11 Apr 2012, 18:39
by Announcer
Sorry I haven't checked this thead in a long time. Thanks for the compliments.

As for the things that didn't work, I released this back when not all of the bugs from the 3.x kernel name change had been ironed out. That messed up some things with aufs in Puppy's scripts (like filemnt), but wasn't a problem with the kernel itself.

I moved my site to a different web hosting provider, and no longer have the files.

So unless somebody else can upload a copy...