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#31 Post by saintless »

Google search for Pussy linux:

[quote] 1. Puppy Linux Discussion Forum :: View topic - Pussy: potentially a Puppy with a perfect package manager - murga-linux.com
www.murga-linux.com/.../v... - Кеширана вер
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#32 Post by Flash »

I assumed the name was chosen to attract attention. So far, it hasn't attracted the wrong kind of attention to this forum. If it does, let me know and I'll deal with it.

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#33 Post by sickgut »

Flash wrote:I assumed the name was chosen to attract attention. So far, it hasn't attracted the wrong kind of attention to this forum. If it does, let me know and I'll deal with it.
and how will you deal with it? why dont you just do it now? i intend to attract whatever attention i see fit from the name of the linux distro that i founded.

Consider this:

What would happen if i called my distro "GayPuppy" or "Satanic Antichrist Witch Linux that harms small animals?"

If people here and you are so concerned about the wrong kind of attention, i may just make things difficult for you. If you googled GayPuppy or the other long named suggestion you will see alot more offensive material than if you google Pussy Linux. Gay porn is still porn. Even if due to political correctness gone wild and the emphasis on gay rights means that gay porn is more tolerated than heterosexual porn, its still porn.

What would happen if i did change my distro name to "GayPup"?
I would make such a fuss about it that the distro would probably be banned from here but I would have a defense, because if the distro was banned i could play the discrimination card. I would make a noise so loud about the forum not liking GayPup or the word Gay that it would definately attract the wrong attention.

What if i changed the name to: "Satanic Antichrist Witch Linux that harms small animals?"
Its the same scenario. Yes it would attract attention to the forum, and you would have to live with it because, if it was banned from here then I would play the discrimination against my free choice of religion so loud that it would attract the wrong kind of attention to the forum.

The point im trying to make is that i dont care about your political correctness and how it shuns the name of my distro. But if you make it an issue then i will too because hey.... im 100% behind my distro and im committed and ill do whatever is best for my distro and creating a scene like that in an over defensive move would actually generate more interest in the distro. Either way its win win for Pussy or GayPup or Witch Linux or whatever.

The name Pussy isnt hurting anything so dont pretend it is or will.

*i have nothing against gays, infact if i was to name my distro GayPup, this would be a pro gay move. I have nothing against witches and if i named my distro Witch Linux this is a pro witch move. So please dont make out that im against either groups.

Political correctness goes both ways. Its fashionable for political correctness to favor minority groups that have previously not been tolerated well. Dont make me whip out Hitler Linux just for the fun of it. Please do not flame my political views, political correctness demands that im tolerated and treated with respect no matter what personal choices i make.

See how annoying it is when someone plays the political correctness.... lets try not to offend anybody.... mentality?

im annoyed because i called the distro Pussy because its similar to the other 4 legged animal Puppy. The wallpaper has picture of a cat. Everything is labeled as Meow and other cat related words. How is this related to anything else? Its people who are on the political correctness bandwagon shouting that Pussy can mean other things that are offensive in other countries so ill have nothing to do with it unless you change the name.

Its fantastic how people will choose to support a distro not because of technical features or how it works but because of the name. Hey here is an idea, how about you rename the /etc dir of Puppy to "super cute anime baby dog" and replace all the files listed in whatever file manager you use with brightly coloured icons instead and call the OS Nice Cuter Slick Puppy Android if the name is so important. Im sorry but i cannot even relate to the argument of i dont like the name so i wont look at your OS. The closest i can identify with that in my mind is something like:

"Ill never use the linux command 'grep' because i dont like the name, i prefer to hobble along with 'find'"

Why is there a file in /bin called cat? Maybe you should rename it to Puppy, and your OS will get more popular?

the Pussy name was only supposed to be temporary as I intended to make Pussy into a Puppy, and so it would eventually be called Puppy. or the basic idea would be adopted by puppy devs and the Pussy OS would die after giving birth to a new superior race of dogs. Pussy has gotten so Popular that its here to stay and i really dont care if anyone here likes the name or not. Infact i dont want my OS in the hands of developers who believe the name is more important than the OS itself. I think this is how things like MS Windows get so messed up or Ubuntu turns from something really good to useless.

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#34 Post by jpeps »

....oh well...time to move on.

gcmartin

The NAME is simply an label for product offering

#35 Post by gcmartin »

Somehow, many (mostly Christians and others) feel that a word or a reference is intolerable. Thus should be destroyed. (This comment is NOT a religious attack for I am Christian. I am expressing an idea.)

I don't think the majority of this community, being of worldly backgrounds, "care" about the the label that the distro owner is using. Speaking for myself ONLY, I been moved/swayed/affected/misguided/raped/cheated or any of that by the product (or its label, for that fact.

It, to me, is simple; another of the list of Linux offerings that seemingly has used a RAM basis for putting things on a desktop for user use.

Maybe most of us could stop and simple accept the product, while understanding that the product is much more important in what it advances than its label.

This is just a simple viewpoint from a simple mind to the "simply users". I favor no one and offer this as a middle ground view.

We're all (I think) interested n the advancement of Puppy Linux (why else are we here). And many that do come here bring ideas and have asked questions that have inspired all of us. We need all the fresh inspirational efforts we can muster to advance Puppy. It is maturing and its happening rather rapidly. How many have notice the size of the PCs that our community is using now? The developers, this year, are going to take advantage of that for useful purposes as this RAM based OS continues its trek. Inspiration for the advancement of Puppy Linux in the "Puppy Linux Discussion Forum'! We need it all coming from anyone and everyone.

Let's not let a label, any label, stop our inspirational juices from breeding in this Puppyland. Further, I sure, if a forum discussion need be opened on the topic of "allowed words", hopefully,
  1. it can be done and manage in such a way that it doesn't disturb those already Grandfathered (i.e. Pussy, Slacko, Puppy, Fatdog, LightHouse, etc)
  2. while managing some "allowed" list of names for the future....if necessary.
Should this approach be undertaken we should insure that it doesn't take on the disruptive arguments we have seen in the America....Hopefully.

Hope this helps

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#36 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

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[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#37 Post by jpeps »

Google search "mouse"

Code: Select all

Modest Mouse
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Official site at Epic Records includes news, sound files, biography, and tour dates.
Mouse (computing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_(computing)
In computing, a mouse is a pointing device that functions by detecting two-dimensional motion relative to its supporting surface. Physically, a mouse consists of ...
Naming - Early mice - Variants - Connectivity and communication ...
Mouse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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A mouse (plural: mice) is a small mammal belonging to the order of rodents. The best known mouse species is the common house mouse (Mus musculus). ...
House mouse - Mouse (computing) - Mousetrap - Genetically modified mouse
Shopping results for mouse
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er...MinHundHettePerro, notice any difference?

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#38 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

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[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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#39 Post by jpeps »

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
As I said: In my country, and my language, ...

You'd have to translate mouse into Swedish and then go searching the net (preferably not googling, ey) - or I could, of course, delete any attempt at trying to tell anecdotes altogether ...............
MinHundHettePerro, I think you've nailed it. How about "fitta linux" ?

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#40 Post by Amgine »

sickgut wrote:
Flash wrote:I assumed the name was chosen to attract attention. So far, it hasn't attracted the wrong kind of attention to this forum. If it does, let me know and I'll deal with it.
and how will you deal with it? why dont you just do it now? i intend to attract whatever attention i see fit from the name of the linux distro that i founded.
:shock: Wow the first thing I thought of was a Cat!

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#41 Post by nooby »

Edit Now I have it the best name for your distro is:
The Absolute Politically Correct Linux.
It is 100% compatible with Debian stable edition.

Re the Debian developers reaction?
Maybe they read you tried to get Puppy devs involved?
Would that not make them this reluctant to help you out?

A kind of competition they don't like? Maybe I am too
pessimistic. AntiX folks seems to not dislike Puppy
but them are Mepis so maybe that explain it.

Is Mepis 100% compatible? Is Nimblex 100% compatible
or are both these seen as forks? Knoppix is a fork?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#42 Post by Lobster »

Knoppix is a fork?
Pussy is a better fork [so to speak]
Glad sickgut is still here.
Can not say I ever wanted a Pussy.
. . . and now back to the manly pursuit of penguins . . . :?

Be Kind Guys, it keeps the dogs happy and
lulls the enemies into a false sense of not being a menu item . . . :lol:
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Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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#43 Post by sickgut »

jpeps wrote:
saintless wrote:
I just don't think it will make any difference even if he name it Puppy-cat linux. But maybe I'm wrong... It's only my opinion.
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saintless....ask any elementary school kid if a name matters.
I think we all know if you use google or other uptodate search engines there is an option there to filter out Porn and other offensive things, use safe search with the setting set as ON. You can look up anything on the internet with safe search set to off and get a sexual connentation. My ex and i wanted to buy someone a leather brief case with a penguin logo on it. What came up on the search engine was pictures and websites to do with girls dressed up as penguins wearing leather BDSM type equipment that had a penguin theme etc. This was in 1998. Its not my problem if people dont use their filters.

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#44 Post by sickgut »

lso
nooby wrote:Edit Now I have it the best name for your distro is:
The Absolute Politically Correct Linux.
It is 100% compatible with Debian stable edition.

Re the Debian developers reaction?
Maybe they read you tried to get Puppy devs involved?
Would that not make them this reluctant to help you out?

A kind of competition they don't like? Maybe I am too
pessimistic. AntiX folks seems to not dislike Puppy
but them are Mepis so maybe that explain it.

Is Mepis 100% compatible? Is Nimblex 100% compatible
or are both these seen as forks? Knoppix is a fork?
Ive never sought any attention from debian devs at all. There is no point as far as im concerned as its a large cold community, not like Puppy that is small and everyone knows each other.

if you use one of the predone debian desktop isos then you will see it is horribly broken and bloated and on a completely opposite path than Puppy. However their base OS with nothing much installed is a really good starting point.

I do however follow the principle of not breaking compatibility with debian, pussy must remain technically an awesomely optimized debian remaster that altho is purposefully changed to become something Puppy like, is not outside the realms of debian and doesnt introduce anything that may clash with the package management and installing stuff, This helps on 2 fronts:

#1) compatibility is maintained with the debain repos. As soon as we introduce any conflicting factor we loose the whole reason Pussy was made: to leech of someone else.

#2) in the early stages of the development of the OS, users can get support from the debain irc support channels. There is nothing in pussy that makes it not 100% debian and all advice given will work on Pussy. There is no need to mention your running pussy because the debian people dont know what it is. And obviously catroll-panel is an addition so dont mention that. Most debian devs run debians that are more modified than Pussy, they run their own versions of whatever control panel they personally have made over the last 10 years that is a collection of custom scripts, they run a different background and splash boot screen than the standard debian. If you have an issue and need help, just as the debian community and they will help. Just use common sense and it will work.

Pussy will grow and we will have out own supportive community but in the mean time if you have a technical problem and its taking too long to get your answer on the forum or at #pussylinux then ask the debian people.

Also something cool is that Pussy is ready to deploy onto ARM devices basicly overnight. Everything in the debain repos are already compiled for ARM. As soon as i see an suitable tablet platform or maybe even Rasp Pi, it will take only a day to deploy Pussy onto it. The only reason this hasnt happened yet is because i have not found a worthy platform. When there is something that is sub $100 tablet or ARM computer that can run xorg, jwm and roxfiler at a speed that is more than a crawl then you can bet that Pussy will be one of the first linux OSes available for it.

You see there are major advantages to remaining compatible with debian, another is that when pussy gets old and its time to release a new verison, its simply a 1 day job to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy or whatever other new debain is the stable.

once pussy is completed, it takes very little time to maintain it or even to release a new version of it based on whatever new debian is released.

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#45 Post by Dave_G »

sickgut has a point, if you don't switch on the safe filter in google
and use the correct search terms, you're bound to get some "strange" results.

Search for pussy+linux and google will return lots of "proper" results.

Here is another example, say you wanted to find out how your blackberry phone
deals with or saves cookies, you would type in:
blackberry+phone+cookies as opposed to just
blackberry+cookies which would return a whole bunch of, er well
blackberry cookie recipes.

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#46 Post by Puppyt »

Could we perhaps move away from the nomenclature of sickgut's project and the "what ifs" of search engine associations (e.g., what would happen if someone typo'd "Justin Beaver Linux" etc), draw a line in the sand and focus again on the rather more pristine intentions that he clearly stated from the very outset? I think the continued feedback to the OP is acknowledgment that his aims are worthwhile and supported in principle and spirit - even though on some levels the help has been hard to come by. Good on you, sickgut and saintless.
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#47 Post by sickgut »

I dont understand why it even matters what an OS is called when its in the development stages. Starwars was called blue harvest when it was being made.

i do intend to introduce a debranding option, brand stripper or bleacher you might like to call it. At the click of a button the cat pussy meow etc names all disapear and then you are left with the standard debian names for everything and a bare background and splash boot screen if your using a usb or hdd install.

pussy keeps its customness out of the way in /scripts. This is a non standard debian dir so it never gets touched at all when removing or adding things. The idea here is that any and all custom pussy things reside here and everywhere else on the filesystem where they are needed, they simply symlink back to /scripts. Its quite possible to remove all symlinks and scripts that are uniquely pussy and then be left with a slimmed debian system.

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#48 Post by mini-jaguar »

All this about the name is pretty funny and reminds me of the controversy surrounding DSL (Damn Small Linux).

Anyways, being in the way top of the distros doesn't necessarily mean the all the packages work smooth. I've been messing around with Ubuntu lately and found it to be buggy when attempting to install certain packages, plus certain versions of the o.s. just seem more buggy as they seem to have a need to put out new versions regularly instead of fixing older versions. You can't even find any software at all for a 3 year old version, even if it is pretty stable.

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#49 Post by jpeps »

mini-jaguar wrote:All this about the name is pretty funny and reminds me of the controversy surrounding DSL (Damn Small Linux).
My apologies for being so banal. Looking forward to pussy tea-shirts.

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#50 Post by saintless »

jpeps wrote:
mini-jaguar wrote:All this about the name is pretty funny and reminds me of the controversy surrounding DSL (Damn Small Linux).
My apologies for being so banal. Looking forward to pussy tea-shirts.
Here is my suggestion:
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