harii4 like your tag line. something i need work toward.harii4 wrote:I hope so tooNice to see all of you wanting our village back
I hope we all have learned a lesson and the future of puppylinux.info will be different now.
puppylinux.info was closed Jan 14, reopened Jan 28, 2012
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Saintless, yes I would hope we learn too
but being a "seasoned" pessimist I doubt
we are able to learn how to avoid it in future.
I trust everybody involved felt they did the right thing.
So no chance to learn as I see it but it can be my lack of
finetuning using English that fail to get nuances in the texts.
I trust that all of us or at least a big majority of us
underestimate how incredibly difficult this is.
They even write academic books about how difficult
cooperation is.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/fe ... ianreview4
Richard Sennett wrote a book that got published
2012 and the title is
One need to commit to listening in a way we are not used to.
One need to be skilled at doing it and that take deep
commitment and dedication to get good at it.
http://www.richardsennett.com/site/SENN ... ?pageid=40
The cool thing with that guy is that he is one of those that
most likely have been brought up with Political Correctness
and his parents and grandparents? where too.
All of them Socialists and Communists and dedicated to
solving discrimination and other social issues.
So if he tells us this is much more difficult than what PC
folks usually say then I trust it is difficult.
Here in Sweden the PC folks like my Commist Dad and
his friends say it is very easy. One just decide to show
solidarity with minorities and all will just work.
Sennett knows from his own practice that it is not like that.
Co-operation needs commitment to practice until
one can listen to others in a skilled way.
I doubt any of us have that skill now. I know I fail at it.
but being a "seasoned" pessimist I doubt
we are able to learn how to avoid it in future.
I trust everybody involved felt they did the right thing.
So no chance to learn as I see it but it can be my lack of
finetuning using English that fail to get nuances in the texts.
I trust that all of us or at least a big majority of us
underestimate how incredibly difficult this is.
They even write academic books about how difficult
cooperation is.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/fe ... ianreview4
Richard Sennett wrote a book that got published
2012 and the title is
In it he says that cooperation needs skills of a craftsmen.Together: The Rituals, Pleasures, and
Politics of Cooperation
One need to commit to listening in a way we are not used to.
One need to be skilled at doing it and that take deep
commitment and dedication to get good at it.
http://www.richardsennett.com/site/SENN ... ?pageid=40
The cool thing with that guy is that he is one of those that
most likely have been brought up with Political Correctness
and his parents and grandparents? where too.
All of them Socialists and Communists and dedicated to
solving discrimination and other social issues.
So if he tells us this is much more difficult than what PC
folks usually say then I trust it is difficult.
Here in Sweden the PC folks like my Commist Dad and
his friends say it is very easy. One just decide to show
solidarity with minorities and all will just work.
Sennett knows from his own practice that it is not like that.
Co-operation needs commitment to practice until
one can listen to others in a skilled way.
I doubt any of us have that skill now. I know I fail at it.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
That was not a notice of intent.Aitch wrote: you left your notice of intention.
I am not a Prima Donna.
Does anyone have a copy of that page?
I am now interested to see what transpired after I left.
At the time, I didn't want to know.
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There's no place like 127.0.0.1
Dear jim3630,
have you ever joined one of those components of the United States of America?
Army
Navy
Air Force
Do you remember what you learn first when ever being send outside the USA as a soldier?
"You are an ambassador of the USA as soon as you leave conus in uniform!"
You are always asked to make friends! Regardless how bad they will ever speak about your country, the United States of America!
It ain't easy at all, I know.
Best Regards,
Feodor
have you ever joined one of those components of the United States of America?
Army
Navy
Air Force
Do you remember what you learn first when ever being send outside the USA as a soldier?
"You are an ambassador of the USA as soon as you leave conus in uniform!"
You are always asked to make friends! Regardless how bad they will ever speak about your country, the United States of America!
It ain't easy at all, I know.
Best Regards,
Feodor
FeodorFeodorF wrote:Dear jim3630,
have you ever joined one of those components of the United States of America?
Army
Navy
Air Force
Do you remember what you learn first when ever being send outside the USA as a soldier?
"You are an ambassador of the USA as soon as you leave conus in uniform!"
You are always asked to make friends! Regardless how bad they will ever speak about your country, the United States of America!
It ain't easy at all, I know.
Best Regards,
Feodor
thank you for your good will and reminder. there are a couple of other things mentioned usually in the same breath. i resigned my commission in 1989.
Dear Jim,
I resigned in 1988 - I had an argument with an E-7.
He was fond of kicking his dog underneath his military desk (with drawers on one side and compartments on the others - there was not too much space left for his dog.)
As a human being he acted the same way.
I took my case all the way up to the LtC. It was me against an E-7 and his German witness. The LtC wanted me to stay - but hell, I wasn't patient enough.
Best Regards.
Feodor
I resigned in 1988 - I had an argument with an E-7.
He was fond of kicking his dog underneath his military desk (with drawers on one side and compartments on the others - there was not too much space left for his dog.)
As a human being he acted the same way.
I took my case all the way up to the LtC. It was me against an E-7 and his German witness. The LtC wanted me to stay - but hell, I wasn't patient enough.
Best Regards.
Feodor
FeodorFeodorF wrote:Dear Jim,
I resigned in 1988 - I had an argument with an E-7.
He was fond of kicking his dog underneath his military desk (with drawers on one side and compartments on the others - there was not too much space left for his dog.)
As a human being he acted the same way.
I took my case all the way up to the LtC. It was me against an E-7 and his German witness. The LtC wanted me to stay - but hell, I wasn't patient enough.
Best Regards.
Feodor
that is tuff. in1989 stationed in Alaska knew would not retire out and simply found Caption Hazewood's vacation offer in Prince William Sound to compelling.
Exxon threw insane amounts of money at any idea for a remedy. i helpied set up a infrastructure and staffing for medical care of injured workers. latter when the Sound starting closing due to winter conditions i had experience to contract with the last crew to leave as the occupational safety officer on the ship dry dock.
pay comparable to private security officers in Iraq today so in 1989 i had 3 days shore leave. got to walk in pristine wilderness that had not a human foot on it in hundreds of years. too bad much of it was covered in oil.
Ätsch!
Ausruf der Verhöhnung / Schadenfreude
ha-ha, you lost! [na, na, na, na, na, na! in a
http://de.pons.eu/dict/search/results/? ... =de&l=deen
*
Aetsh! is actually a german word for expressing
[quote]Schadenfreude Listeni/ˈʃɑ
Ausruf der Verhöhnung / Schadenfreude
ha-ha, you lost! [na, na, na, na, na, na! in a
http://de.pons.eu/dict/search/results/? ... =de&l=deen
*
Aetsh! is actually a german word for expressing
[quote]Schadenfreude Listeni/ˈʃɑ
Karl hope you were not near. be safe.
Red Alert on Jan.17th 2012 18:11 at the Heidelberg military housing complex (called Patrick-Henry-Village).
'Grossalarm wegen angeblicher Bombe'
Three young persons drove with their car to P-H-V and told the guard at the entrance they have a bomb inside the car.
Red Alert on Jan.17th 2012 18:11 at the Heidelberg military housing complex (called Patrick-Henry-Village).
'Grossalarm wegen angeblicher Bombe'
Three young persons drove with their car to P-H-V and told the guard at the entrance they have a bomb inside the car.
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I tend to agree with the posts here getting greatly off topic.
There are other areas of the forum for those posts.
This thread should be kept for the discussion of puppylinux.info and ideas and suggestions relating to it.
One has to remember that it is not guaranteed that puppylinux.info will reopen while this forum is in operation.
There are other areas of the forum for those posts.
This thread should be kept for the discussion of puppylinux.info and ideas and suggestions relating to it.
One has to remember that it is not guaranteed that puppylinux.info will reopen while this forum is in operation.
Is that not to be too optimistic?saintless wrote:Thanks, Raffy The village is open again.
Everybody - lets keep it safe and friendly this time, please!
http://puppylinux.info/
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
You'll have at the end 90 carriers functional again i assume :Karl hope you were not near. be safe.
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