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#376 Post by torgo »

A request: could a future version of Slacko please include module support for the Ralink RT3370 / RT3070?

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NIC Not working, EEEPC 900 (Celeron)

#377 Post by chfisa »

I loaded this version on an old HP Pavillion 772n, with Realtek RTL 8139 NIC and it worked fine.

Switching to my EEEPC 900, network set-up appeared to go well to the point where I clicked the DHCP button on the set-up, and it returned a "connection successful". However, when actually attempting to pass traffic over the link, I.E connect to the Internet, it fails and indicates that there is no connection. Tried several different combinations of settings in the simple set-up tool, but no luck.

It's not the NIC, as EASY PEASY works with it as does PUPPEEE4.3.1.

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Broadcom STA wifi driver for Slacko

#378 Post by peebee »

[update] 25-03-12
Now created a forum page with all the latest versions on it:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76495
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#379 Post by chfisa »

Just a follow-up to my earlier msg. pertaining to the EEEPC 900.

Sorry, I failed to mention that the issue I described pertained only to the WLAN (Atheros AR5BXB63) interface.

The wired connection (Atheros L2) was automatically discovered and connected during the boot process. However, I still received the screen noting incorrectly "Welcome! This is the first time... You do not have an internet connection." Fun stuff...

Thanks for your hard efforts!

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Good News!

#380 Post by chfisa »

Another update....
Just successfully connected my EEEPC 900 wirelessly to the network!
This time I used the optional "Frisbee" network setup tool, and voila! So, it appears there could be an issue with the "Simple Network Setup" tool on this build.

FYI, I agree with some of the other comments about the browser. Like Chrome better...

Thanks again!!

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#381 Post by grump »

Here is something odd I just found ... it seems that 5.3.2.1 runs a semitone sharp.

Being a very amateur electric bass player my usual method of practice is this:

I plug the bass into the mic socket on this laptop, then in Retrovol I enable the mic (with mic boost selected). Then I start Audacious and play along with some tracks in my practice set list, using headphones. This method works quite well once the various volumes are set.

Sometimes I use Lingot tuner to tune the bass - nice little app. Now here is what happened just now:

I wanted to re-do a bootable usb stick of 5.3.2.1 to try out the broadcom pet on my HP Mini, so rebooted with a 5.3.2.1 CD and made the usb. After that I started to have a practice as above, but noticed that the Lingot tuner was telling me I was a semi-tone flat. I checked with my 'stand-alone' Boss tuner, but all was ok. I then tried playing along to a track with Tuxguitar, and I sounded flat against that, and the tuner in Tuxguitar said I was flat as well. However, when playing against a track on Audacious I was in tune again. Odd, I thought.

So back to 5.3.1 ... the Lingot tuner now says I am in tune.

So it seems that 5.3.2.1 runs a semitone sharp!

Using a Toshiba A200 lappy about 8 years old.

btw the songs I played were:
Heroes - David Bowie
NY Mining Disaster - Bee Gees
Substitute - The Who
Running Down a Dream - Tom Petty
Roll Over Beethoven - my band's version

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#382 Post by 01micko »

grump.. now that is an odd one,, nothing much is changed in multimedia.. you did get one of the 3,2 kernel alphas right? Can you reproduce that flatness? So far, that's the biggest showstopper in my eyes, I play too. (see WWW below)

gcmartin.. I see your situation, it seems a full ctrl-alt-bkspc is needed to set the correct hostname, not good, In my opinion, once X is started then it's way too late to correctly reset hostname, it really needs to be a reboot... or set very early on in the boot process, especially in a live environment. If I were the constructor of the GUI that reset hostname I would advise a full reboot before it is certain that hostname has been correctly reset, This is true of ALL puppies, even though it may appear to be correct, the kernel really does need a reboot if hostname is set under GUI
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#383 Post by zigbert »

Why is UTF-8 off by default?
Rox shows non-english chars in filenames correct, - other apps don't.
Viewnoir fails to load the image whithout UTF-8. Geeqie makes it.
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#384 Post by Jades »

zigbert wrote:Why is UTF-8 off by default?
Backward compatibility with older operating systems, UTF-8 can cause unexpected weirdness on those without support for it.
zigbert wrote:Rox shows non-english chars in filenames correct, - other apps don't.
Some apps probably have limited character-set support, or need it to be set manually. I usually use ISO-8859-1 (AKA Latin-1) as I'm a Brit but ISO-8859-15 (Latin-9) is probably a better choice due to improved foreign character support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859 gives a good rundown. ISO character sets were superseded by UTF-8 and Unicode.

I'm sure some versions of Lupu used to allow you to toggle UTF-8 and choose character set but I can't put my finger on where to do it. Used to be in Personalise Settings.
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#385 Post by gcmartin »

01micko wrote:grump.. now that is an odd one,, ...

gcmartin.. I see your situation, ...
@Grump. (this is NON-authorative for I am a mulitmedia "MIC" beginner in Linux); but i seem to remember in PSIP testing about the differences from Puppy distro to distro about the Mic sections of the tools we use; namely Retrovol and the other. Seems that the Mic boost on certain distro actually does NOT produce acceptable results. Maybe a little review of which setting is helpful when using SLACKO might generate better results...maybe.

@01Micko. What I am aware of is simply that a logout seems to alway work. I have appealed to @Shinobar several weeks ago about whether FirstRUN can "enforce" that. For some reason, something you and Playdayz did "fixed" it in Puppy 5.28. Further, (I believe) TaZoC also did something when he generated LH64 5.14 because his use of FirstRUN behavior works same/similar as Puppy 5.28.

Heop this helps

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#386 Post by grump »

Lingot is listening to mains hum - should be 50 Hz.

I had played with the CPU frequency scaling because the fan on this lappy is nearly always on and it's getting noisy, so I disabled the tool and rebooted before I had Lingot listening to mains hum (thumb on end of instrument lead does the trick).

Edit to add: I just checked in 5.3.1, and lingot says 50.12 Hz. I installed it in 5.3.1, and use the 5.3.1 save file when testing 5.3.2.1.
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Slacko 5.3.3-beta ..testing (5.3.2.1)

#387 Post by Billtoo »

I made a pet of Thunderbird 10.0.1
Compiled and tested in Slacko 5.3.3 beta

I compiled and made a pet of the latest release.

The download link is:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-f87f5d4e.html
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#388 Post by cthisbear »

I know what your problem is grump .

I reckon 01micko got taught tuning by Red Symonds.

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#389 Post by Terryphi »

zigbert wrote:Why is UTF-8 off by default?
Rox shows non-english chars in filenames correct, - other apps don't.
Viewnoir fails to load the image whithout UTF-8. Geeqie makes it.
Despite the warnings in this thread and elsewhere I have been running with UTF-8 set as default for over a year and have encountered no problems with any programs. I am using en_GB.utf8 and have everything set to use UTF-8 including mail programs.

I agree with zigbert. With Barry making internationalisation of Puppy easier it is time to consider moving to UTF-8 as the default encoding.
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UTF-8

#390 Post by shinobar »

Terryphi wrote:Despite the warnings in this thread and elsewhere I have been running with UTF-8 set as default for over a year and have encountered no problems with any programs.
No problem in the history of the Japanese editions (ja_JP.UTF-8) since PuppyLinux 2.16.1JP on 2007.
Barry says UTF-8 slows scripts. It is right as for English, but UTF-8 is preferable for other languages, i suppose.

Another issue i would like to point out.
In the /etc/profile:

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# v426 recommended by MU, avoid crashing for non-English locales on some apps...
export LC_COLLATE=en_US
We Japanese do not know what application makes trouble without this setting.
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#391 Post by Terryphi »

shinobar wrote: Barry says UTF-8 slows scripts. It is right as for English, but UTF-8 is preferable for other languages, i suppose.
This has not been noticeable to me using en_GB.utf-8 (British English) for "normal" use. This may just be an issue to developers running demanding scripts.
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Re: FirstRUN and system when hostname is changed

#392 Post by shinobar »

gcmartin wrote:Slacko SAMBA - The BUG - Shows original Hostname when NO logout has occurred for desktop user before SAMBA installation started
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=343

It is discussed many times on the environment variable HOSTNAME does not reflect the change with the Quickset/Firstrun/Personalize settings.
I think the fundamental issue is the script xwin restarts without re-evaluateing the /etc/profile other than the environment variable 'LANG'(see the last lines of '/usr/bin/xwin').

But practically, i guess no problem with the 'HOSTNAME' and no need to logout or even restart X(my firstrun does not restarts X if the change is only the hostname).
Actually, as for the samba server, restart is required for the samba server, not the X server.

My question is, who reads the 'HOSTNAME'?
As for the samba server, it does never read the variable 'HOSTNAME'. But the mick's 'simple samba settings' reads the variable 'HOSTNAME'. In this point of view, the script should read the output of the command 'hostname' instead of the variable 'HOSTNAME, that is $(hostname) rather than "$HOSTNAME" (~line 66).
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Re: FirstRUN and system when hostname is changed

#393 Post by 01micko »

shinobar wrote: 'HOSTNAME, that is $(hostname) rather than "$HOSTNAME" (~line 66).
Yes, that solves it, though for true resetting of HOSTNAME a reboot is needed (for /etc/profile and kernel).

I will reupload samba with the fix.

Thanks, saves me a headache :lol:

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#394 Post by sc0ttman »

Terryphi wrote:
shinobar wrote: Barry says UTF-8 slows scripts. It is right as for English, but UTF-8 is preferable for other languages, i suppose.
This has not been noticeable to me using en_GB.utf-8 (British English) for "normal" use. This may just be an issue to developers running demanding scripts.
Forgive me if I am talking rubbish, shinobar is the expert here...

But just for the record, I run with UTF-8 enabled, sometimes in Russian, Spanish, whatever...
Having UTF-8 does not seem to slow things down in English, but it does get slower in other languages...
I have timed it, some things are definitely a bit slower in non-English UTF-8 locales.

However, I have found that when devs use a well placed 'LANG=C' inside (a function of) a shell script,
then you can remedy the slow down easily.. I have done this with Pup-Advert-Blocker on my system..

LANG should get reverted obviously.. So:

OLDLANG=$LANG
LANG=C
...
(do stuff)
...
LANG=$OLDLANG

But as long as you have the right LANG set when pulling in locale files,
then you can usually pretty much run the rest of the script with LANG=C
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#395 Post by 01micko »

I just compiled samba

samba_full-3.6.3-s.pet

It includes Samba Simple Setup gui with shinobar's bugfix for hostname. I have done very limited testing, haven't tested printing yet.

Also, if you have a custom smb.conf the setup gui detects that and offers a way out before it starts.

The compile is slightly different, swat and private are in different locations, no big deal. It is the complete package with all binaries and libraries stripped, still only ~32M in size.

Configure args:

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./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-swat --enable-cups --localstatedir=/var --sysconfdir=/etc --with-statedir=/var/locks --with-configdir=/etc/samba
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