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shinobar · Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2249 Location: Japan

There is Seamonkey-2.11-en-1.sfs:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78601

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2623 Location: Earth

OscarTalks · Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 324 Location: London, England

gerry · Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 944 Location: England

Wow! that was easy enough. Thanks-

EDIT: I mean the OscarTalks method. I assume, if updater works now, it will be up-to-date for ever?

Gerry

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OscarTalks · Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 324 Location: London, England

mikeslr · Posted: Sun 05 Aug 2012, 21:04 Post subject: Pets or SFSes -- Why either

Hi All, but especially for gcmartin:

Pet or SFS? Why either?

Some time ago playdaz wrote about the advantages of "program folders" and provided a tutorial. Then DaveS followed it up by creating pets called Foxyfox and Opera-from-mnt/home (I think). Essentially, to use a program folder all you do is download the latest tgz from Seamonkey, Opera, Firefox, whatever; unpack it in mnt/home and create a symlink of its executable in one of the directories in puppy's executable path. Drag & Drop the symlink onto the desktop and give it a nice icon. Or fancy things up by creating a .desktop file so it shows up in your menu. Voila! the latest Seamonkey, Firefox, Opera. Usable/Accessible in every Puppy. Create a pet of the symlink, icon and .desktop to avoid having to manually recreate them in another puppy.
Program folders work in almost every Puppy configuration: Frugally Installed to a hard-drive, a USB-Drive, included on a CD/DVD [but if the latter, a SaveFile must be used if you want to preserve changes]. I'm fairly certain they'll even work with Full Installs.
Of course, if you're a fanatic about minimalization just unpacking a tgz may leave you with some “unnecessary” files. But as they won't be in your SaveFile, this isn't too great a disadvantage. And you can, if you know what you're doing, strip them out.
Similarly, if a Dev wants to include a browser in his/her Puplet, using program folder's isn't the way to do it. On the other hand, updating a Puplet to the newest version of Opera, Seamonkey or Firefox is a snap. And you can test for problems before discarding the “old, but working” version.
Using program folders has several advantages: Devs don't have to use up their own “on-line storage” or their own bandwidth. Wasn't that one of the reasons for developing woof? But most importantly, devs don't have to take their precious time to compile/modify something that works when obtained straight from the source, Which means that Devs have more time to spend in developing applications which actually require their expertise.
Note, running Opera from mnt/home has always worked. For a while after Firefox 7, Firefox didn't: but Firefox 14 does. Not certain about Firefox versions 12 or 13, nor any version of Seamonkey. And the first run of Firefox from mnt/home (and I think Seamonkey) will still install its preference/config files in / in every Puplet you use it with, but you can move it (specifically .mozilla) to a folder in mnt/home and symlink it back to /, or having done so in one Puplet simply delete the .mozilla file from / and substitute it with a symlink to the .mozilla file you already have in mnt/home. In about a minute, the webbrowser will have the bookmarks and customizations you're used to. But if you want flash, you'll have to install it in each Puplet.
Note on updating firefox (maybe Seamonkey): The safe way is to copy your firefox/seamonkey folder to another directory should anything go wrong. Then click on Menu>help>About Firefox>Check for Updates and follow the instructions. If that doesn't work, you may have to download the tgz directly, or fall back to your old, protected version. With Opera, you have to download the latest tgz. On the other hand, its config/preference/bookmarks are already in your folder on mnt/home.
[Program folders don't have to be on mnt/home. But then you have to mount their partition before you can use them].

Pets or SFSes? For those of us who run several Puplets, neither: rather, program folders.

Posted from Slacko using firefox 14.0.1 on mnt/home. That firefox was updated per the above easy technique from firefox 11.

mikesLr

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bignono1 · Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 344 Location: New ME

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bignono1 · Joined: 17 May 2009 Posts: 344 Location: New ME

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kevin bowers · Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 143

KJ · Posted: Tue 07 Aug 2012, 10:22 Post subject: ROX "rescan" and "home" icons

Slacko uses "slackosave-xxx.xxx savefile naming. I use Grub4dos to boot it from a ext2 partitioned full size SD card mounded in a USB convertor on my older Acer laptop with great success. You can even manually lock the SD card to "read only" if you want absolutely no saves made to your OS.

Will someone please give me the full paths for the ROX "rescan directory contents" and "change to home directory" icons.

I have used pfind with every *.png, *.rpm combo I can think might work and have viewed hundreds of icons but not these two exact icons. Thanks ... KJ