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#31 Post by antiloquax »

Sylvander wrote:Yes, but what can I do with it if I buy one?
The RPi Foundation hope it will have the same sort of effect as the BBC micro did back in the day. It will get kids into programming.

You can start by learning Python!
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#32 Post by Sylvander »

Thanks for the info folks... :D

I'll keep an eye on developments. 8)

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#33 Post by tlchost »

JohnMurga wrote: What the PI has : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
Thanks...I have the yellow and two other plugs, which I believe are audio.

Guess I'll get on the waiting list and watch the progress here.

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#34 Post by JohnMurga »

tlchost wrote:
JohnMurga wrote: What the PI has : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_video
Thanks...I have the yellow and two other plugs, which I believe are audio.

Guess I'll get on the waiting list and watch the progress here.
Yup, you can get a headphone jack to twin RCA cable to connect those up too, should also be a couple of bucks.

Possible issues on old TV may be around PAL/NTSC ...
So the picture might come up in black and white when you boot ...
Until you fix it :-)

Anyway, here is the reason why despite our best efforts I suspect most of use won't see our PIs for a while :
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/29 ... ypi_mania/

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#35 Post by Lobster »

The Rpi team seem to be recovering from last nights reported pub visit
Here are the FAQS
Their website is still not properly up and they are launching a new one 8)
http://elinux.org/R-Pi_FAQ

One thing you might like is the Gert board for controlling stuff from the Pi board
Python should be in most series 5 devx

Python is a good language because it was named after Monty Python
Here for no real reason is one of the Pythons inspiration
(Spike Milligan) dressed as a viking blowing raspberries . . .
http://youtu.be/BOTZJgc39NA
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#36 Post by stu90 »

I haven't ordered yet going to hold out for some of the hype to die down first then hopefully i wont be left waiting for ages on a pre order.

So what do folks plan to do with them?
I read there will be a camera attachment and another circuit board type attachment that can control things like motors and sensors.

Im thinking connected to HDTV with a nice weather conky and news ticker - internet radio and maybe torrent downloader.

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#37 Post by aarf »

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and now an interlude for some Buddha Dharma
'desire is the source of all suffering.' [by not anon. (Not recently.)]
The Buddha said that
and also said:
Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle,
and the life of the candle will not be shortened.
Happiness never decreases by being shared.
We all feel - desire, anger, sorrow etc
It is what we do with it . . .
Desire and excitement for Rpi arises
and (we Buddhists) let it go :)
We don't hang on to it and let it dominate our own
well being . . .

When I get a Pi, I will put YAP on it
and worship hounds :roll:
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#38 Post by raffy »

Update about the distributors: Farnell asks for a trade account before your order can be processed, while RS-Online just takes your information for future sales. I note that Farnell's price (in Pesos) has increased from P1,860 to P2,000 overnight.

Addition: The launch was made quite dramatic, with a 0600H-29Feb2012 "set your alarms" announcement. And when it happened, ordering was directed to two new partner-distributors. Because of this, the enthusiasts' past labors in registering at raspberrypi.com for future purchase was made useless. It made nice headlines, though, like "RPI Sells Out in A Stampede, etc etc." So sad for a beautiful open-source device with well-meaning enthusiasts.
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#39 Post by scsijon »

talk on irc this morning of a daughter-board already planned with sata and a couple of extra mem card 'slots'

it's already got hdmi so using a hdmi to vga convertor should work ok.

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#40 Post by JohnMurga »

scsijon wrote:talk on irc this morning of a daughter-board already planned with sata and a couple of extra mem card 'slots'

it's already got hdmi so using a hdmi to vga convertor should work ok.
Don't think it is so easy.

You may be able to get a cable with the connectors, but this is only for special hardware that can handle the different signals.

HDMI is digital and VGA/RCA are analog ...

DVI was worse, because there was DVI-A and regular DVI (so DVI->HDMI worked, but DVI-A->HDMI didn't).

Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI :-)

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#41 Post by aarf »

Unless you are going to sit ontop of your tv the HDMI cables arent cheap either. Suppose you could have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to compensate. Once again extra cost.

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#42 Post by JohnMurga »

aarf wrote:Unless you are going to sit ontop of your tv the HDMI cables arent cheap either. Suppose you could have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard to compensate. Once again extra cost.
Never had a problem with my $5 HDMI cables from ebay/amazon ...

The new TV came with a $60 cable ("free"), and it doesn't make any difference.

It does look cooler, so I use the expensive cable :-)

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#43 Post by Sage »

Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI
Not all of them - there's a bog std. one for a couple of quid in the CPC catalogue if you've got time to search it out. If you're desperate, I can look up the code from past orders and PM it.
Later: sorry, can't find it - must've been a telephone order.

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#44 Post by Lobster »

I'm desperate (in more ways than 7) Please post details Sage.
Did you order one (or try to get a slice?)

Twitter from rpi team - gone silent. They are up to something . . .
. . . I am still excited . . .
I am hoping their site will go up soon and then we will have more info :)

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... ution.html

http://gizmodo.com/5889245/five-things- ... spberry-pi

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#45 Post by Lobster »

Just got a message from Liz Upton from Rpi headquarters
Mad doesn't even *start* to address what it's like here at the moment. Absolutely can't believe the interest. We've got the Chinese State Broadcasting "news" people visiting this morning. Mental.

Thank you for Spike. I hadn't seen that before, and was reduced to making snorting noises. Lovely stuff.

Up crustacea!
some of you have probably seen the snort inducing video for doubters and detractors . . .
http://youtu.be/wEZ-NvSKJLI

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#46 Post by JohnMurga »

Sage wrote:
Last time I checked HDMI to VGA adapters cost more than a PI
Not all of them - there's a bog std. one for a couple of quid in the CPC catalogue if you've got time to search it out. If you're desperate, I can look up the code from past orders and PM it.
Later: sorry, can't find it - must've been a telephone order.
Cable adapters won't work because of the analogue/digital mismatch.
I assume that whatever you bought worked for you ... But for a couple of quid ?

If you found a full on converter that works at that price, I am sure people here would be interested in you digging it out :-)

This is the cheapest I could find, but it is still more than thirty quid :
http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg03 ... dp/AV19973

No one is going to be desperate, as I suspect no-one will have their PI in their hands for a while :-(

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#47 Post by antiloquax »

Lobster wrote:Just got a message from Liz Upton from Rpi headquarters
Thank you for Spike. I hadn't seen that before, and was reduced to making snorting noises. Lovely stuff.

Up crustacea!
:D :D Cool! I had an email from Liz a while back too! Glad you are keeping Puppy on their mind!
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#48 Post by Aitch »

I don't know if a simple HDMI to VGA+Audio cable will work as advertised on ebay?

http://tinyurl.com/6ratttx
John M wrote:Cable adapters won't work because of the analogue/digital mismatch.
Any care to gamble a few quid to test one of these with an XBox or DVD player with HDMI out, and report back?

I'm sure potential Pi owners would be interested

Aitch :)

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#49 Post by prehistoric »

There's more than analog/digital behind the problem of converting HDMI to VGA. HDMI is set up to be paranoid about someone converting protected content to unprotected, like VGA. Whenever it sees an unprotected output, a message goes back up the chain to convert to standard definition (SD).

I set up a TV (for someone else who watches the idiot box) using a 31" CRT monitor with a VGA input. It will show 1080i, which looks quite nice on a CRT. (The interlaced lines actually fit between those of the alternate field.)

The problem, even when showing off-the-air TV, is that you may have to buy old equipment to display HD via VGA. I got a Sony SAT HD-200 off eBay. This is a very nice box which originally cost around $800. The satellite input is obsolete, but for people like my friend who are upset about paying cable rates the off-the-air tuner is very good.

A side benefit of using an old 31" CRT monitor is that you don't have to worry about thieves doing a smash-and-grab if they see it through the glass door to the patio.

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#50 Post by Lobster »

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Guys beyond hyperspice and other spaces
in a future raspberry dimension populated by Puppys
we are already running . . . :)

Wheras other distros such as Raspberry Hat and Pi Ian
are already able to test and devevop on actual hardware
we have to develop on hardware we don't have. :shock:

It may be impossible but I would remind you that
Barry once created a release version of Puppy which included
OpenOffice in under 100MB when OpenOffice (now LibreOffice)
on its own was 120MB

It may be impossble but let's do it anyway. :lol:

I am starting to remind myself of any latent
Python skills I may have
(the language of the RPi Foundation for its educational
prime directive)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppySchoolProgramming

As soon as a PARM devx exists
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM
in this time line, I will be testing my
Fruit machine

Code: Select all

## Random fruit response
# Python Code
# Lobster March 3 2012

import random

verb = ['erratic', 'unbelievable', 'unfortunate', 'inconsequential']
fruit = ['raspberry', 'pomegranite', 'banana', 'grape', 'loganberry']
print "You are an" , random.choice (verb) , random.choice (fruit)
Don't leave it for the appalling apple
to shutdown all ARM tablets to Ipaid only . . .

Get your Puppy ARM ISO ready.
Tens of thousands of users worlwide will have
boards and be bored with the bug dogs in no time

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