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Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 06:20    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
GLX not working:
/var/log/Xorg.0.log wrote:
[ 3423.088] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed (libLLVM-3.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[ 3423.088] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[ 3423.088] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[ 3423.089] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (libLLVM-3.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[ 3423.089] (EE) GLX: could not load software renderer



Oh... crap. File 'nouveau_dri.so' is in package:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libgl1-mesa-dri

And it has this dependency:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libllvm3.0

...look at the size of that package!!!!

I wonder if we could compile it ourselves to not have that dependency? Anyway, for now I will add it.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 06:43    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Bug fixes...or better just noticed missing libs...
_MAJOR SNIP_


Pemasu - just found bug fix version at your site...
yes... there are lots of inconsistencies to work out...
BUT - precise 5.3.3.3 fixed three things for me automatically...

1) It auto adjusts perfectly for my off-proportion flatscreen display

2) it gives me printing, with no special setup, in ALL printing apps

3) it uses all my dpupEXPRIMO compiled pets flawlessly

since 1) and 2) had been my only problems with
dpupExprimo, and were problems I couldnt work around,
I say HOORAY for the 5.3.3.3 bug fix version, all other possible
inconsistencies aside ! h-o-o-r-a-y : -)

I have had on and off trouble with internet connection...
this kindof hiccups sometimes, and needs connection
wizard.

blender pet didnt compile for me from repos... however...
found a blender SFS, which worked right away

I'll say it again... couldnt have asked for a more improved
puppy, but I got one anyway. Thanks to all involved in
developing precise.

soundNICK

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 06:47    Post subject:  

Trouble with compiling without the libllmv dep is what else breaks down the track when people start adding stuff from precise repos. Confused

-

Did some reading on archwiki about KMS and radeon. The problem I had with KMS switched on for radeon was no console, X was working fine. As you say it may be fixed by now but the archwiki seems to suggest only the X.org ATI driver supports KMS. I'll do some more tests with my reasonably modern radeon card and see what happens.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 06:48    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
Barry a3 looking pretty good here in VirtualBox except for ayttm.

# ayttm
ayttm: error while loading shared libraries: libaudiofile.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#


Thanks, I modified the 'audiofile' template in Woof, it now creates a symlink of libaudiofile.so.0 to libaudiofile.so.1 if it is missing.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 06:53    Post subject:  

linux28 wrote:
bug Sad Sad Sad


Sorry, I haven't got a clue why Leafpad input methods are all missing.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 10:45    Post subject: Precise Puppy alpha3, May 24, 2012
Subject description: momanager
 

#
msgunfmt: error while loading shared libraries: libunistring.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

msgmerge: error while loading shared libraries: libunistring.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 11:55    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
linux28 wrote:
bug Sad Sad Sad


Sorry, I haven't got a clue why Leafpad input methods are all missing.

Thank you for answering all the gtk software has problems, for example, you if you want to enter the Japanese can not.
QT software can be input to other languages. Only the gtk software is not all.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 12:01    Post subject: Would you test Puppy Backup?  

Note to Barry Kauler :

Would you test Puppy Backup? It's a fork of pmirror.
It has been localized (unlike pmirror) and has a couple of extra features.
It has been working nicely for me.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77685

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 12:13    Post subject:  

Shinobar has new version of ffconvert

version ffconvert-1.2.9.pet (2012-05-26)

http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/

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LateAdopter

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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 14:55    Post subject:  

I have done a fresh install of Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 for comparison.

A few initial conclusions from the Lucid Puppy Xorg.log:

- The Radeon driver is installed and working and acceleration is enabled.

Code:
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Setting EXA maxPitchBytes
(II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 117538816 bytes
(II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
(II)         Solid
(II)         Copy
(II)         Composite (RENDER acceleration)
(II)         UploadToScreen
(II)         DownloadFromScreen
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled


- MESA DRI is not installed, and the log contains the same GLX error as 01micko reported for Precise Puppy.

Code:
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/r600_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r600_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
(EE) GLX: could not load software renderer
(II) GLX: no usable GL providers found for screen 0


BK wrote:
Quote:
Oh... crap. File 'nouveau_dri.so' is in package:


- But Xorg High is a .pet in the Lucid repo, and I think that is equivalent to MESA.

In my fiddling about with Precise Puppy, I had already installed the MESA DRI and LLVM from the Ubunto repo using the Package Manager, so I didn't get the error from Precise Puppy. Since the Package Manager can get it, it may not be necessary to include it.

- KMS is reported as: not supported.

Code:
(II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.


- The main difference is the section at the beginning of the log, that lists the extensions to be loaded. Lucid Puppy does load all of these.

From Lucid Puppy Log

Code:
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.




The corresponding entries from Precise Puppy Log seem to be a bit mixed up and it does NOT load the DRI or GLX extensions, even though it said it would. I don't yet know which file defines "default" and which defines "config" but I shall go and look.

Code:
[    12.787] (WW) "glx" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere.
[    12.787] (WW) "dri" will not be loaded unless you've specified it to be loaded elsewhere.
[    12.787] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
[    12.787] (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
[    12.787] (II) "glx" will be loaded even though the default is to disable it.
[    12.787] (II) "record" will be loaded by default.
[    12.787] (II) "dri" will be loaded even though the default is to disable it.
[    12.787] (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.


So it looks as though the missing DRI and GLX extensions might be the problem. Unless I am barking up the wrong tree, again.
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PostPosted: Sat 26 May 2012, 20:56    Post subject: Precise Puppy alpha3, May 24, 2012  

Umplayer compiled okay in Precise (after I installed qt482 made in
Racy), dir2pet works I think but I just did make install.
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2012, 01:44    Post subject:  

Did a manual frugal install on my main Athlon XP box...... things looking pretty good.

# report-video
Precise Puppy, version 5.2.55 on Sun 27 May 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.11.4
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (171MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 27 May 2012 12:41:26 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2012, 08:59    Post subject:  

This Puppy doesn't like Radeon SOLVED!

Having looked in the right version for xorg.log, after using the xorgwizard to select Radeon when X fails to start and then using xorgwizard to go back to VESA, I found out what was wrong.

There had been no modules for X to load (ATI VESA or FB) so it quit because there was no display.

So I copied the ATI Radeon VESA and FB modules from the X backup folder.

I renamed the xorg.conf.bak to xorg.conf.

I restarted X and now it works!

It now is using the Radeon driver and acceleration (2D) is enabled.

So the xorgwizard needs to be fixed to give Xorg some modules for Radeon.

Note1: I had not enabled KMS

Note2: I had reinstalled the libdrm packages from Ubuntu, just in case... And I had installed the libkms package which was not present, just in case...

Now its working I don't want to go back and find out whether they were really needed!

Next I will install the MESA DRI packages and see whether 3D acceleration will work...
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2012, 10:59    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
01micko wrote:
GLX not working:
/var/log/Xorg.0.log wrote:
[ 3423.088] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed (libLLVM-3.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[ 3423.088] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[ 3423.088] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[ 3423.089] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (libLLVM-3.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[ 3423.089] (EE) GLX: could not load software renderer



Oh... crap. File 'nouveau_dri.so' is in package:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libgl1-mesa-dri

And it has this dependency:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libllvm3.0

...look at the size of that package!!!!

I wonder if we could compile it ourselves to not have that dependency? Anyway, for now I will add it.


I have just tried these packages, but I think they may not be the right ones.

They do load AIGLX successfully but Hardinfo reports this:

Code:
-OpenGL-
Vendor      : VMware, Inc.
Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
Version      : 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2
Direct Rendering      : Yes


Fatdog 600a2 also has working AIGLX, but Hardinfo reports this:

Code:
-OpenGL-
Vendor      : X.Org
Renderer      : Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880
Version      : 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2
Direct Rendering      : Yes


I think the VMware bits are not what we are looking for.

Perhaps Kirk/jamesbond would know what is wanted. Fatdog uses the same version of Xorg as Precise.
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PostPosted: Sun 27 May 2012, 21:59    Post subject: UMplayer  

Billtoo:

It would be nice if you could turn that UMplayer you compiled into a .pet and upload it here so some of us could test it in Precise?

I noticed the little 'save icon' in the background of your umplayer graphic you posted on this thread. Can I assume you are also running Precise from a multi-session CD/DVD? If you are... I downloaded and installed the 'fast patch .pet' (glibc-2.10.1-1-w5c.pet) that BK made available and sorry to say... it locked my computer solid... no functions or programs would work at all... even killed a few of the desktop Pwidget functions...had to do a cold shutdown with the computer button! Thankfully I was using a multi-session CD and it didn't currupt Precise or hurt anything... just thought you would like to know.

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