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Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012
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zygo

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Aug 2012, 22:27    Post subject: Intel video; Abiword; usb tv; petget; usb modem.  

Barry,

Mostly good so far.

Intel video works straight out of the box. Very Happy

Abiword sometimes starts with a tiny window, partially drawn paper or both.

My usb tv (7ca:a835) is detected (KERNEL-DRIVER(builtin)=(none)) but sadly needs a kernal patch.

Minor issues

A startup script I run to search for a file in the top dir of several drives thankfully no longer delays for a minute or so. The last time it was so fast was Puppy 431 I think.

Yes, fixmenus does seem slower. I run petget from a script to setup new Puppys. An option to skip fixmenus would help. That's assuming one call to fixmenus after all installs would install all new menu items. Likewise, if petget could be run without dialogue boxes (terminal only) that would speed up my configuring and testing.

The brilliant auto setup of the usb modem needs the cd to spin up even though the cd was copied to RAM at boot.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 02:34    Post subject:  

I have added Gimp 2.8.2 PET, compiled by 'scabz':
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80175&start=135

Uploaded (9.6MB):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-precise/gimp-2.8.2-precise.pet

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 04:09    Post subject: Re: network_tray  

rodin.s wrote:
Beta 3 works normally on my Celleron 900MHz 512RAM. I noticed one thing: network_tray is not internationalized. The pet installed from http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02837 works (didn't test it on beta3 yet but it worked on beta2).


Thanks, fixed. The latest is in the 'common' repo, but the build was finding an older one.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 04:13    Post subject: Re: zoneinfo  

shinobar wrote:
The beta3 cannot set the timezone to Asia/Tokyo because of lacking some files under /usr/share/zoneinfo, they were in the beta2.


The main difference from beta2 is that beta3 is built with Ubuntu 12.04.1 DEBs. So, something must have changed in that directory.

Can you post the names of some missing files?

A search in packages.ubuntu.com should identify what DEB they are in.

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 04:20    Post subject: HP5200 network printer not works  

Precise Puppy beta3 frugal ,HP5200 network printer not works.

but Wary530 and Racy530 both work fine.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 06:10    Post subject: Re: Intel video; Abiword; usb tv; petget; usb modem.  

zygo wrote:
... if petget could be run without dialogue boxes (terminal only) that would speed up my configuring and testing.

Why not try it?
install:
Code:
DISPLAY='' && petget PETFILE

uninstall:
Code:
DISPLAY='' && petget -PETFILE
Wink
DISPLAY='' will skip the dialog.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 06:47    Post subject: Precise Puppy beta3, August 26, 2012
Subject description: black screen
 

Black screen again.

See shinobar´s comment http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76961&start=103
and fix for my box
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76961&start=112

/sbin/pup_event_frontend.d wrote:
sleep 1 #let the dust settle after X has started. 120718 reduce 2 to 1.
#w471 slow cpus need more delay (well, rox does)...
DELAYFACTOR=0
CPUMHZ=`grep -m 1 -i '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'` #my laptop: 933.000
if [ $CPUMHZ ];then
[ $CPUMHZ -gt 100 ] && DELAYFACTOR=`expr 1100 \/ $CPUMHZ`
else #120718 raspi: 697.95 my laptop: 4789.47
BOGOMIPS=`grep -m 1 -i '^bogomips' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'`
[ $BOGOMIPS ] && [ $BOGOMIPS -gt 200 ] && DELAYFACTOR=`expr 2100 \/ $BOGOMIPS`
fi
[ $DELAYFACTOR -gt 0 ] && sleep $DELAYFACTOR


My VIA D7 box needs 1 more second thus I am suggesting 2
changes

1

- DELAYFACTOR=`expr 1100 \/ $CPUMHZ`
+DELAYFACTOR=$((1600 / $CPUMHZ))

$((...)) is faster than expr ...
and
awk is faster than grep | tr | cut | cut

2

# time grep -m 1 -i '^bogomips' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'
3030

real 0m0.051s
user 0m0.007s
sys 0m0.010s

# time awk -F: '/bogomips/{print int($2)}' /proc/cpuinfo
3030

real 0m0.027s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.007s

# time grep -m 1 -i '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'
1514

real 0m0.059s
user 0m0.013s
sys 0m0.007s

# time awk -F: '/cpu MHz/{print int($2)}' /proc/cpuinfo
1514

real 0m0.036s
user 0m0.007s
sys 0m0.000s

(I am learning awk Wink )

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 06:48    Post subject: Re: zoneinfo  

BarryK wrote:
shinobar wrote:
The beta3 cannot set the timezone to Asia/Tokyo because of lacking some files under /usr/share/zoneinfo, they were in the beta2.


The main difference from beta2 is that beta3 is built with Ubuntu 12.04.1 DEBs. So, something must have changed in that directory.

tzdata_2012e-0ubuntu0.12.04_all.deb should have all the data.

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drblock2

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 07:42    Post subject: nouveau problems  

@rerwin
I hope this is the information you need:
Code:
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] [10de:0322] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
   Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-8936 (FX5200-T128) [1462:9360]
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
   Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at ed000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0
   Kernel modules: nouveau


@01micko
Thanks for the address! nouveau_unload does not offer its services automatically in Beta 3, but runs fine from the console. You might consider adding a line to the instructions telling the user that you must make a save file (if you don't already have one) for the script to do its job. I do think, however, that a fully automated solution such as the one rerwin suggested is better because going through this procedure is probably a bit much to ask of a new (and inexperienced) user.

nv is not listed in xorgwizard. My experience with this machine has been that it provides about the same performance as vesa.

The nvidia-173 driver did unload nouveau (or at least it said it did), but then X refused to start. In a further experiment, I loaded the nvidia-71 driver over the nvidia-173 driver. The old driver was unloaded and I was able to start X in vesa mode, but once I chose nvidia with the xorgwizard, X again refused to start. I have used these drivers (self-compiled) with a whole kennel full of puplets (Lucids, Slackos, Waries) and never had this problem before. Always worked like a charm and delivered 2400+ fps.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 07:56    Post subject: Precise Puppy beta3, August 26, 2012
Subject description: sfsget
 

Some more sfs would be nice
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 09:58    Post subject:  

ok testing Beta3 now, off the top of my head i will list what i have found.
python is missing some dev files or was compiled without --enable-shared. vcdimager and cairo are also missing some dev files.

CPU Frequency Scaling Tool is not working correctly, same as OV-Percise see page 5 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80175&start=60

if anyone has installed my pets from OV-Percise thread some of them will not work in BK's Percise Beta3, some of the libs are not the same.
here is my repo for BK's Percise Beta3 and this time i686 instead of i486 http://www.mediafire.com/?mpv88jj3bp0m3, none of my compiled apps and libs are combined in sfs's or large pets i will do that soon and then post them.
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rerwin


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:02    Post subject: functions4puppy4 fix still incomplete  

Barry,
I checked the woof-commit and found that a line that should be deleted is still there.
Code:
Changes to woof-code/rootfs-skeleton/etc/rc.d/functions4puppy4

    @@ -3,17 +3,19 @@
     #w468 not using set_mixers() anymore, it's done in /etc/init.d/alsa.
     #w468 choosemousefunc() simplified.
     #101120 new firmware_tarball_func, as /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe rewritten.
     #110722 usb drive, LED light briefly flashes after unmounted, so wait a bit. 110828 remove.
     #120209 slight changes so that SSS mechanism can substitute translations. (see /usr/share/sss/script_strings)
    +#120828 rerwin: record firmware installed in /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}
    +#120828 grep needs -E option, as expression is extended regular expression.
     
     #101119 called from rc.sysinit...
     #global $MODULE is name of module, global $KERNVER.
     firmware_tarball_func() {
      MODULEx="`echo -n "$MODULE" | tr '_' '-'`"
      iPATTERN='^'"${MODULE}"'$|^'"${MODULEx}"'$'
    - if [ "`grep "$iPATTERN" /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}`" = "" ];then
    + if [ "`grep -E "${iPATTERN}" /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}`" = "" ];then #120828 extended-reg-expr
       fPATTERN='[:,]'"${MODULE}"'\.ko|[:,]'"${MODULEx}"'\.ko'
       FIRMPKG="`cat /etc/modules/firmware.dep.${KERNVER}  | grep -v '^#' | grep ':' | grep -E "$fPATTERN" | cut -f 1 -d ':' | head -n 1`"
       if [ "$FIRMPKG" != "" ];then
        if [ -f /lib/modules/all-firmware/${FIRMPKG}.tar.gz ];then
         tar -z -x --strip=1 --directory=/ -f /lib/modules/all-firmware/${FIRMPKG}.tar.gz > /dev/null 2>&1
    @@ -30,10 +32,11 @@
          echo "$MODULE" >> /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER}       <========= please remove ======
          cd /
          /pinstall.${FIRMPKG}.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
          rm -f /pinstall.${FIRMPKG}.sh >/dev/null 2>&1
         fi
    +    echo "$FIRMPKG" >> /etc/modules/firmware.dep.inst.${KERNVER} #120828
        fi
       fi
      fi
     }
The module name should never be entered into the firmware.dep.inst file. Only the "tarball"/firmpkg name.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:30    Post subject:  

Hello BarryK & 01micko

My internet has been broken since Thursday, so I haven't been able to try Precise yet.

I tried posting in the blog but I don't know the answer to the question! Sorry!

I'm no expert on this, don't take as certain, but this is my understanding.

LLVM is a software rasteriser that is superior to swrast and is used by GLX when there isn't a working 3D accelerated driver.

The current Radeon r600g has gallium 3d acceleration built in and does not need LLVM.

LLVM only gets used if KMS is disabled and the r600g is in some kind of fallback mode.

the r600g driver supports all Radeon cards from the the last few years including Evergreen and up to Northern Islands but not Southern Islands.

the r300g is similar and goes back to the 9500 series cards from 10 years ago.

I don't think you need to include LLVM as long as KMS can be enabled.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 13:57    Post subject:  

ok here are a few app i compiled in percise beta3.

clementine-1.0.1-i686 - clementine-1.0.1-i686-percise.sfs, clementine-1.0.1-i686-percise.pet includes all dependencies besides qt-4.8.2-i686.

umplayer-0.6.8-i686 - umplayer-0.6.8-i686.pet requires qt-4.8.2-i686.

smplayer-0.8.0-i686 - smplayer-0.8.0-i686.pet requires qt-4.8.2-i686.

smtube-1.1-i686 - smtube-1.1-i686.pet requires qt-4.8.2-i686.

xine-ui-0.99.6-i686 - xine-ui-0.99.6-i686-percise.sfs, xine-ui-0.99.6-i686-percise.pet includes all dependencies "xine-lib 1.2.2 is included". I could not get xine-ui 0.99.7 to compile if anyone can do it please tell me how you did it.

transmission-2.60-i686 - transmission-2.60-i686-percise.sfs, transmission-2.60-i686-percise.pet includes all dependencies.

gimp-2.8.2-i686 - gimp-2.8.2-i686-percise.sfs, gimp-2.8.2-i686-percise.pet includes all dependencies.

DEV, DOC and NLS pets are in my repo if anyone needs them. Or if you want pets without the dependencies included http://www.mediafire.com/?mpv88jj3bp0m3.
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Aug 2012, 16:55    Post subject: FirstRUN is not your current version. Probably WOOF2 error.  

Seems that during the build process, the OLD FirstRUN utility has been cobbled into the distro.

For sertting system fields and variables, the newer FirstRUN you built couple months back is much more advanced than the one that is currently in the Beta3.

Below is an example of the current one that is in Precise 5269 and the prior one which is your updated version.

Here to help
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 Description   The advanced version built by Barry to set system fields
 Filesize   84.93 KB
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