Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012

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#856 Post by 01micko »

I have a Pentium M too, great little machine, only has 512 RAM but can actually do a decent job of running Win7. (Of course it runs Slacko 99% of the time :) ).

Good to see that BK is going to build an 'unofficial' non-pae version.
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kernel headers??

#857 Post by Ted Dog »

Where are we hiding those kernel headers for wary/racy as well? Tried to compile NVidia drivers and those headers where not found, expected with the huge size of dev.sfs those would be included.

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martian drive firmware package

#858 Post by rerwin »

Even though the martian modem driver is not used in precise pup, its firmware directory needlessly consumes over 400KB. Attached is the firmware converted into a "firmware_linux_module..." package, which preserves it but allows it to be removed from precise and woof. It should not be included in precise-final but can go into the pet repository with the other such packages. And be added to the woof configuration list at some point.
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Obsolete cdcacm firmware

#859 Post by rerwin »

Barry,
I just noticed that the cdcacm firmware directory is still in all-firmware. Note that it has been replaced by the updated dgcmodem firmware.

Not only should the all-firmware/cdcacm directory be deleted, the firmware.dep file should be updated as I think I described when I posted the firmware package. Specifically, the lines:

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cdcacm:cdc-acm.ko
dgcmodem:dgcusbdcp.ko
should be replaced by:

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dgcmodem:cdc-acm.ko,dgcusbdcp.ko
However, if the deadline has passed, these changes can wait until the next release, because the old configuration still works.
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#860 Post by `f00 »

precise 5.3.97 (rc2)

..first look (and likely last as the final gets done forthwith)

As usual (with precise, anyway) needed bootcode "puppy radeon.modeset=0" to get a useable display on my hardware - lines even more scrunched after "Loading kernel modules" if no bootcode entered at splash. Quickstart works ok (ps/2 optical mouse and dropdowns fine). Only the 'move' outline is visible as a sort of border on the welcome page - kind of disorienting for any first-timers. A gray85 might be an improvement over the snow-white, impo.

Had a play with some other gtks - Gradient-brown works well (especially highlighting) and a good match for jwm theme of the same name. Other ones like the Stardust variations too. Of course some fields may be nearly illegible contrast depending on the app/gtk mix (page width drop select in abiword and menuhead selected in seamonkey for example).

Last time I handled a compact disc, it was more rigid than floppy and the thumbdrive doesn't do much but jam the disc tray (just joking, as I recall pmount tabview corrects after the initial run but still). ffconvert still doubled by FFConvert in rox OpenWith. May just be me, but I think mtpaint deserves the proper 3-crayon icon by now.

Also did a play with some personal sfses (oldish I realize as some things were 'branded' with quirky 100 but they still work mostly). Of the new apps included, pAVrecord looks mighty useful and not too daunting as such things can be. Anyhow, a screencap - did it old-school since too many jpg artefacts in the screeny 'forum-optimized' 3/4 size take of the 800x600 'given' display size.

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test on: i686 machine (12 yr old desktop)
processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz
RAM - 512M
vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP
boot/save method - liveCD multisession (cd-rw media)
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Re: kernel headers??

#861 Post by 666philb »

Ted Dog wrote:Where are we hiding those kernel headers for wary/racy as well? Tried to compile NVidia drivers and those headers where not found, expected with the huge size of dev.sfs those would be included.
the kernel sources are usually here http://bkhome.org/sources/

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SFS load on the fly not 100% work same with load on boot

#862 Post by ferikenagy »

some time ago I have made an SFS containing AVR-GCC compiler for AVR 8 bit controler, (it is uploaded in this forum ), to proper function it must set the PATH & LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment, which is made by this script /etc/profile.local contained in SFS file:

#!/bin/sh
#set avr path, script /etc/profile calls if exist /etc/profile.local
export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/avr/bin
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/avr/lib

this script is run by /etc/profile, it works OK when SFS is load on boot by boot manager when we have created puppy save file, meaning it can be compiled from terminal window XVRT and from Geany (BUILD/Make command).

With no puppy save file , but SFS load on the fly I can compile from terminal window XVRT but it Fails to compile from inside Geany (with Build/Make command)! where is the difference? from outside X (at command prompt) if I force:
#/etc/profile.locale
#xwin
nothing change (work from XVRT terminal but not from Geany)
but if I force:
#exec /etc/profile.locale
#xwin
than everything is ok works both from XVRT terminal & Geany too!!!

So what is the difference? why it happens,why cannot work exactly in same way for SFS load on the fly and load on the boot?

what is the solution? please somebody give me a hint how to set this enviroment variables within SFS (or better how should look an better initialisation script within SFS) to work correct (the same) with no regard if is load on the fly or by boot manager or if it is run within terminal or Geany.....or maybe must be change something in the "profile" script the way it calls "profile local"? or something in Geany configuration? Anyway from now on "load SFS on the fly" will be in puppy menu and we should get a solution for this different behavior . Thanks

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#863 Post by artsown »

Mikesir .... I tried wine-1.4-i486.pet on Precise RC2 and I'm not
getting quality results. My reference points are both Lucid and
Luci which work exceedingly well for me in practically all respects.
But in particular their repo wine pets work well for me on those
puppies (good quality).

I uninstalled wine and tried the repository wine with the same
results (rc2) as I had with rc1 ... it claims wine is installed but
it is not. So I reinstalled the wine pet and I'm suffering poor
quality results. Don't know yet what might get me clean wine
results on rc2.

Insofar as testing rc2 goes, I've tried it now on three similar
but different PCs. The "mostly black screen at startup" occurs
somewhat rarely with rc2 but the problem is still there. I found
out why it's a bad idea to blindly do a Restart X Server as the
last item in the startup sequence. If Puppy picks the wrong
video driver (which happened on one machne here) then
doing the R X S has very negative results (all white screen
or gibberish screen) where only Ctrl-Alt-Backspace or pulling
the power plug gets you out.

I had one instance where Personal Settings showed Vesa
after I purposely set a intel driver. I've also experienced
gibberish video after purposely setting Vesa.

Anyway, I like the speed of Precise and I'll no doubt follow
its development. But IMO it's not ready for prime time. My
pesonal favorite is Luci (three headed dog) which is solid
and quick on all three of my PCs here.

Art

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#864 Post by bigpup »

artsown,

Have you tried the Wine pets from here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53675
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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Chromium 24 for Precise 5.4RC

#865 Post by peebee »

Chromium-24.0.1297.0 sfs is available from:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 962#659962
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#866 Post by artsown »

bigpup ... Yes, I think I tried at least one of those PETs.

Art

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Extraneous puninstall.sh file in root (top) level of CD/ISO

#867 Post by rerwin »

Barry,
While continuing unsuccessfully to look for a reason for the 5+ megabyte difference between the original and remastered puppy files, I notice that there is a puninstall script at the top level of the main (puppy_precise_5.3.9*.sfs) file in both of the RCs. I doubt that you intend for it to be there in the final, so I thought I would mention it.
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Precise RC2 working fine

#868 Post by mikeslr »

Hi Barry & All,

Manual Frugal Install of RC2 to the following:
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics supporting 1600x900 pixels
RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital

Everything, including Ati Radeon Graphics, working fine. All my customary pets/Sfses are completely functional.

@ artsown: That includes Greendome's wine 1.4.1-i486.pet. Different computers, different results.Sorry, I don't recall what your computer's specs are, especially its Graphics. Perhaps someone with the same or similar setup could help figure out why you are experiencing difficulties, and how to overcome them.


I look forward to testing the non-PAE version when it becomes available.

p.s., Not crazy about the default wallpaper, but do like the default icon theme very much.

mikesLr

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#869 Post by BarryK »

Precise Puppy 5.4-final is out.

New Forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81672
[url]https://bkhome.org/news/[/url]

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Precise Puppy 5.4

#870 Post by majorfoo »

posted to wrong thread
Re posted in Precise 5.4 thread

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#871 Post by James C »

Sage wrote:JamesC: please advise where you get some of those superb wallpapers you use. Can't live with some of the awful things that've been appearing recently!
Courtesy of a special theme pack from Microsoft...... :)

Tarred up a couple.....

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#872 Post by Sage »

Ha! Ha! Thanks a bunch, James.

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Re: Sys-info System Information icons

#873 Post by tazoc »

bigpup wrote:Precise RC1
Live CD
save file on CD

Sys-info System Information

The button to run Pupsysinfo is grayed out.
When mouse pointer is over button it says go to help to install program.
OK
After install of program Pupsysinfo the button icon is missing.
Several icons also missing on help window.
See picture.
Somehow the icons at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/ were left out of Barry's Pet.

Please install the latest version, currently sys-info-1.4.1-noarch.pet. That will fix the missing icons.

Get it here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60462

radky's PupControl or PupSysInfo is suggested but not required. Installing either one will enable the PupSysInfo button.

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Re: Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012

#874 Post by greengeek »

BarryK wrote:
Billtoo wrote:In highlightnotvisible.jpg I have highlighted the entire section but
only see the first line as highlighted.
I'm sorry, I cannot reproduce this. Whichever way I highlight a block of text, it is all highlighted. And it stays all highlighted, no matter how window focus changes.
I too have problems with highlighted text not being dark enough to see (except in a dark room). If I use Leafpad and highlight some lines of text the text stays black but the highlight background is a very pale (almost invisible) grey. If I then click onto another window I can see that the Leafpad text inverts to white, and the background highlight goes dark grey and is clearly visible. (of course it doesn't stay that way when I click back into Leafpad)

Possibly this effect of grey intensity varies from screen to screen and therefore does not present an issue for some people.

I am assuming that if I could change the specification for the "in focus background highlight" to a darker grey it would overcome the problem. Or maybe I need to change it so that highlighting INVERTS the colours, just as "out of focus background highlight" seems to do. Does anyone know where the exact colour/intensity is specified? (I'm guessing it's not a ROX setting as that wouldn't affect text colour within Leafpad would it?)

Changing to a different jwm theme does not seem to cure the issue for me.

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Re: Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012

#875 Post by greengeek »

Billtoo wrote:I changed the theme to gradient gray and highlighing works now.
hot dog!
Sorry, my mistake. I was changing the jwm theme, and you meant the gtk theme. Changing gtk theme to "gradient grey" cures my highlight problem.

EDIT:It seems that my gtk theme had previously been set to "stark blueish" which causes the pale highlighting.

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