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[Tman]

Your lupu might be stalling due to applying my suggested code; if so...

replace:

kernel /lupu-528-005/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu-528-005 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck

with:

kernel /lupu-528-005/vmlinuz psubdir=lupu-528-005 pmedia=idehd pfix=fsck

[nooby]

I am booted in Arch now but the one that Godane have on his blog.
I had no time to download the other ones.

I will download archbang tomorrow and other arch.

I did test to boot LM12 using the iso boot code


title LM12 LXDE 2012 frugal iso boot of LM12 LM12LXDE
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso
kernel /LM12LXDE/casper/vmlinuz rw file=/cdrom/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint-12-lxde-cd-32bit.iso ramdisk_size=1048576 root=/dev/ram noeject noprompt --
initrd /LM12LXDE/casper/initrd.lz

That one already works on internal hd in NTFS but the surprising thing is this

on NTFS internal it allow me to edit files but on external usb HD it does not allow me to edit files.

Sorry late at night so I go to bed now. Eyes hurting due to lack of sleep

[nooby]

I trust that my poor English can be very misleading.

I try to find the text that I maybe misunderstood?

[nooby]

[Tman]

nooby

Your computer is already using grub4dos as the main bootloader.
And it appears that you don't have any other bootloaders installed on your system. This is becuase you have not been doing full installs, but rather have been running ISO images on your drives.
That is the equivalent of running a LiveCD on your hard-drive...it is not the same as a full-install.

the link below is a video on how to make a full-install of Mint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXdNJuTSuw

After completing a full-install, you can opt to use Grub2 as the bootloader or have grub4dos launch the full Mint install, or have grub4dos launch grub2 to launch Mint. Yes, it can get confusing.

[Tman]

okay, I just learned something that you already knew...

You can save your settings while using a LiveCD with Ubuntu and Mint, after all.

This being the case..forget about the full installs of Mint. Just boot as you've always have...and save your settings to a linux partition.

You can't save Mint settings to an NTFS, but you can shrink the NTFS and used the freed up space to make linux partition(s) to save your settings.

If you have Windows installed, a good free partitioning tool is "Easeus".
If you don't have need for Windows, you might as well delete the NTFS and convert it to a linux filesystem.

[nooby]

Does persistence work with "Live Session User"?

It does not allow me to write to the drive that I boot from.
So why would it allow me to have persistence?

But you are right in that Pendrivelinux has written about how to
get persistence on usb but maybe that is full installs?

Suppose I do a full install of Arch.
Should I chose the one that Godane have on his Dev Blog?
http://godane.wordpress.com/2011/01/05/archiso-live-20110104-release/

or use the more known Chackra Linux
http://chakra-project.org/

What about ArchBang? http://archbang.org/

[nooby]

[rcrsn51]

[nooby]

Oh sorry.

I am using Acer D255 and have an external HD 20GB big
and it is an external such but connected through USB plug.

So it's name is sdb

I presume that is safe enough to make use of.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html

That is supposed to be a tutorial. Hopefully I can use it.
It is more likely that I don't get a bit of it but I can try.

This thread on our forum suggest that one start fresh
having wiped everything from that drive?

That would be dangerous maybe if it decide to wipe my internal hd.

Can I always trust that wen it sad sdb and 20GB then that is the external drive?

[greengeek]

[nooby]

crazy idea. Can one not tell the internal hd to not be writeable
during the use of gparted? That way it would be protected?

Drastic measure? One could shut down and take it out physically
and only boot from a usb and use gparted on the other usb and
that way only risk the puppy frugal install on the first usb?

I should set up a computer for Linux installs that don't have
a internal HD that can get corrupted?

[Tman]

The title of this thread is "Dual booting grub2 linux with frugal Puppy?"

From this I assumed that the "grub2 Linux" is a full-install.

nooby,

From what I gather you have NOT been doing full installs of the Mint/Ubuntu or whatever else that uses grub2...you have been running the LiveCD iso images from your hard-drives.

What I tried to tell you earlier is that you've already been mutibooting with grub4dos. No other bootloaders are installed in the bootsectors of your hard-drive, from the info I've gathered from you.

This is becuase you've been running LiveCD images and not full-installs. Different bootloaders get installed only when you do a full-linux install.

It may appear to you that other bootloaders like grub2 have been installed, but those are actually bootloaders on the CD images themselves...they are NOT located in the bootsectors of your partitions...thus not really installed in your hard-drives. They only exist in the ISO files.

My method that I was trying to show is for full Linux installs:
- the grub4dos menu entries will be different for full installs, compared to getting grub4dos to run the LiveCD iso files.

In short; the setup is totally different for frugal pups + Mint full-install, compared to frugal pups + "frugal"? Mint

[Tman]

nooby,

In your situation, what you may want to do is this:

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1) format your USB hard-drive into 3 parts:

a) partition1 => ext3 or ext4 ( ext4 is faster, but I find ext3 to be more reliable )
--- this is for all of your ISO images and you frugal pup folders ...size is up to you

b) parttion2 => swap ....3GB should be plenty **skip this step if you already have a swap partition on the main hard-drive

c) partition3 => ext3 or ext4
--- this is where your persistent saves for Ubuntu and Mint would go

2) copy all of your frugal pups and iso images to partition1 on the USB drive

3) make a backup copy of your menu.lst file from the main hard-drive and name it "menu-backup.lst" to make this tutorial easier.

4) reboot the computer with a puppy LiveCD and reinstall grub4dos into the mbr of your main hard-drive...don't install grub4dos into your USB drive.

Grub4dos should autodetect your frugal pups...
5) for everything else, copy any other menu entries you need from menu-backup.lst into menu.lst

6) remove the puppycd and reboot your computer

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** the reason you don't install grub4dos to your USB hard-drive is becuase when the computer starts up, it searches the MBR of your main drive first by default. You can alter this by changing the bios settings, but I don't know what your bios menu looks like and cannot walk you through it step-by-step
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[nooby]

Tman what to you think of the suggestion that rcrsn51 gives me?
link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=618260#618260