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Download problems-where to save files, and how to move them?
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recycler99uk

Joined: 25 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 14:11    Post subject:  Download problems-where to save files, and how to move them?  

While using Lucid Puppy 528 and Firefox I downloaded a ISO file. Firefox asked me where I wanted it downloaded to. I had no idea: but downloaded it to my_documents/temp.

I then started up Burniso2CD. But I could not get it to move through any directory to get to the file. It presented a short list of directories, but I have been unable to make it show any sub-directory or move anywhere.

I then tried to use ROX filer to move the ISO file to somewhere where Burniso2cd could find it. There was a menu to tell it to copy, but I have been unable to get it to paste. After clicking "copy" on the menu, there is a small mysterious pop-up box.

When I had used Puppy Linux 421, I had none of these problems. Firefox saved files to the "Desktop" (although nothing ever appeared on the desktop) and Burniso2CD found the file automatically.

How do I overcome the problems above please?

And if files should be saved on the "Desktop", then how do I find the desktop in the files menus?

Thanks.
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Sylvander

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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Thu 29 Mar 2012, 16:03    Post subject:  

1. "Firefox asked me where I wanted it downloaded to. I had no idea: but downloaded it to my_documents/temp"
(a) Seems Firefox is configured to ask where you want to save files which are to be downloaded [this is good]...
But not yet configured with a default download destination folder. [not so good].

(b) Here's what I do:
I make a number of handy folders to use for various purposes, as follows...
/00, /01, /02, /03, /04.
I use /00 as the download destination folder, and configure that in Firefox at...
"Firefox->Edit->Preferences->General->Downloads->Save file to->Browse..." and navigate to, and choose /00.
And also choose "Always ask me where to save files".

2. "started up Burniso2CD. But I could not get it to move through any directory to get to the file"
(a) Run "burniso2cd".
(b) Choose=[select/highlight & OK] the disk type that matches the disk in the [open?] drawer. [I use CD-RW]
(c) Make sure the partition holding the ISO file is mounted.
(c) Choose=[select/highlight & OK] the burner that you intend to use, and therefore holds the disk in its open drawer.
(d) A navigation window should open.
Click on the desktop icon at bottom left to minimize all windows.
The navigation window will not minimize, and there should only be 1 navigation window.
You may need to double-click on the ../ at the top so as to go up 1 folder layer.
Maximize the window.
Now navigate to the ISO file.
I normally have mine on an external HDD, which I get to via/beneath the /mnt folder.
(e) Having navigated to the ISO file...
Choose it, and click "Normal" in the next dialog.
(f) Choose "OK" in the burn speed dialog.
(g) The Optical drawer should close...
And the disk will then be burned, as you will see in the progress window that opens.
(h) Just "follow the prompts" to complete the process.
I NEVER test the burn! [Way back when I did it would always fail!]

3. "I then tried to use ROX filer to move the ISO file to somewhere where Burniso2cd could find it. There was a menu to tell it to copy, but I have been unable to get it to paste"
(a) I install and use Xfe; it works more like Windows Explorer but much better.
You can use 3-panes = 1 folder hierarchy and 2 file panes.
You can copy or move from one pane to the other.
You highlight [select] objects [files/folders] in one pane, then right-click on the highlighted items and choose "Copy to..." or "Move to..." and the default destination offered is the other pane.
You see both panes, and the file being moved or copied, with a progress dialog, and the object appears in the destination pane.
See screenshots below of the folder hierarchy pane-1, and the file-pane-2 [left].
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recycler99uk

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 10:51    Post subject:  

Thanks.

Xfe or Thunar seem to be easier for an ex-Windows user. Have you tried Thunar please? I wonder which one is easiest to use? ("Easist" means most similar to windows).

I've never liked drag and drop - I prefer copy and paste.

How exactly would I download and install either of them please?

Thanks
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Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 12:16    Post subject:  

1. "Have you tried Thunar please?"
(a) I've tried various file explorers in passing...
Thunar included methinks...
But none [in my opinion] have come close to the excellence of Xfe.
Xfe is also the most similar to Windows Explorer, except better.

2. "which one is easiest to use?"
(a) I've always felt that Xfe is superior in possessing a combination of ease-of-use, and the range of super things it is capable of doing.

(b) Xfe does have 1 [quite serious?] flaw in its makeup, but that is fairly easy to work around, although somewhat tedious to do.
Workaround for the faulty "Open with..." facility in Xfe being run in Puppy_Linux.
Use this [or at least those items that exist in /usr/bin] when completing the above:
Code:
open=leafpad:abiword:epdfview:ffconvert:foxit:geany:gnome-mplayer:leafpad:md5sum:mplayer:mtpaint:notepad:


3. "I've never liked drag and drop - I prefer copy and paste"
(a) the Xfe method is even better than both of these [I've used all 3]. Cool

4. "How exactly would I download and install either of them please?"
(a) Use the "Puppy Package Manager" to find and install Xfe.
See screenshots below of parts of my Puppy Package Manager when searching-for, and finding Xfe:
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recycler99uk

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 17:28    Post subject:  

I found eight different file managers on the Puppy Package Manager and have for the moment downloaded Thunar, as the work around for the bug in Xfe was complicated.

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capicoso

Joined: 13 Jan 2012
Posts: 172
Location: Argentina

PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 00:22    Post subject:  

recycler99uk wrote:
I found eight different file managers on the Puppy Package Manager and have for the moment downloaded Thunar, as the work around for the bug in Xfe was complicated.

Thanks

Pcmanfm is pretty cool and lightweight. Has some unique features...
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recycler99uk

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 10:57    Post subject:  

Reading the above again, the thing that has not been explained is HOW you navigate around the directories?

With Burniso2cd and Amiword, you get a window with a list of directories, but I have never been able to go down the directory tree.

How is it done please? I've tried clicking on the directory, double-clicking, right clicking - nothing works. What is the secret?

With Rox Filer I could not get it to go up the directory tree.

Thanks
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 11:23    Post subject:  

1. I don't understand why this doesn't work for you.
I never have any problem navigating around the folder/file hierarchy.

(a) e.g. in burniso2cd...I double-click on a folder to open it...
And then again double-click to open the next folder...
And so on...
Either up or down the hierarchy.

(b) In ROX-filer it's single-clicks that do it.
To go UP the tree I single-click the green up-arrow at top left.

(c) Don't know Amiword.
Do you mean abiword?
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