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Tman
 Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
Lobster, I don't have a Raspberry Pi, but I have been trying out Arch recently and did create some notes for myself. Below are my notes to get xfce or lxde up and running in Arch. It's not Jwm, but at least you'll have a working Desktop Environment. These notes will be easier to read if you copy them to a script and view it from geany.
These notes are based on info from some Youtube tutorials and the Arch Wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE |
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Lobster
Official Crustacean  Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm |
excellent Tman - added link to your info on wiki antiloquax will be pleased - preparing an Arch based Puppi . . . Have decided the Puppi name suggested works 
Two notes for old BBC micro enthusiasts . . . Rox and and xaraLX were originally coded for the ARM based Archimedes computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes Also read this to get an honest and mature appraisal of the software http://benosteen.wordpress.com/2012/04/23/first-steps-with-the-raspberry-pi/ Start by expecting that nothing works and that you, or someone like you, will have to put the time and effort in to make it do what you want. Be supportive and congratulatory of anyone who improves that situation. For example, going from no sound through linux to a partially working ALSA driver is cause for celebration, not ‘WTF Boo SUCKS’ More of guideline #1 – if you expect everything to work Out-Of-The-Box this early on, you will be disappointed. I wonder if they read sickguts adventures with a mountain and mouthwash . . . 
_________________ Puppy WIKI Last edited by Lobster on Tue 24 Apr 2012, 06:48; edited 2 times in total |
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antiloquax
 Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405 |
This is very useful, thanks Tman. _________________ My System:Arch-Arm on RPi! "RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM. RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi. |
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Tman
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
Lobster and Antiloquax, You're welcome. Please note that in the "UPDATING ARCH" section, that the commands I used were workarounds needed to update the official release of Arch.
But during most other times, Arch can be updated with the usual commands: Pacman -Syy && Pacman -Syu |
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antiloquax
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405 |
I haven't got around to looking at your notes properly tman - I will do so a bit later this evening. However, my Arch Puppy is coming along! I installed NetSurf as my default browser. By the way, if anyone else is trying this, you'll need to do:
in order to get a shared object that netsurf requires. And i've added a few essentials (gparted, leafpad, hardinfo, mtpaint, pygame). I've got it starting JWM automatically (after login). I have been putting off tacking the "icons on the desktop" issue ... 
EDIT: I can't seem to get a pinboard working. I've tried adding:
to .xinitrc, but I still can't put icons on the desktop. Can anyone offer advice?[/b] I'm posting a screen-shot that shows glx gears running.
_________________ My System:Arch-Arm on RPi! "RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM. RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi. |
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Tman
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
I'm not sure about the Rox/Jwm combo but with LXDE, everything is pretty much set up for you. The only problems that I have with it, is that some apps don't appear in the menus after you install them with Pacman.
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antiloquax
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405 |
Thanks to sickgut for his help! I now have ROX and JWM working together. I think that what I was doing wrong was that I set a background image in my .jwmrc and so, although the pinboard was there, I couldn't see it. This is where I am up to so far. I need to make some more room in my partition so I can install some more things. But I have Vim and Python, so I am a pretty happy bunny (sorry - Puppy!) BTW I am posting this from my virtual Pi!
_________________ My System:Arch-Arm on RPi! "RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM. RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi. |
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sneekylinux
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 64 Location: dorset,uk |
drop liam a line over at raspberry pi tutorials, he has arch up and running fine lobster.. |
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sneekylinux
Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 64 Location: dorset,uk |
have had debian running fine for a while now on mine, might give ubuntu arm dev a go in a bit me thinks |
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Lobster
Official Crustacean Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm |
Have you done a review? 
Also using the Puppification process will give you faster options . . . http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppi I will be going through the puppification process again and adding/improving the process. I welcome your comments and/or suggestions. Mark, who is starting more from scratch with Arch on Qemu is offering an alternative approach but working with an ARM emulator Meanwhile Barry is compiling on a more advanced ARM chip http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02800 I am getting more comfortable with the Rpi - early days though . . . _________________ Puppy WIKI |
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Tman
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
Antiloquax, Although Jwm is not my favourite window manager, you got me curious to learning how to set it up in Arch. So I installed Rox and Jwm, but cannot seem to get them to work in conjunction from the console. xinit /usr/bin/jwm gives no rox pinboard and xinit rox -S ; /usr/bin/jwm doesn't work. Currently I have to run the command: xinit rox -S and then launch jwm with Rox-Filer. Please post your technique on howto get these two running simulteanously, ...Much appreciated. ===================== Edit: Oh,I figured out one way ... Add the following to /root/.jwmrc
and then run xinit /usr/bin/jwm from the console. But I still don't know how to get the ROX-Session running first and then Jwm after from the console... |
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Tman
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
odd...it is not really using the "Pin" file, but the Pinboard is getting saved to somewhere else. |
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antiloquax
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405 |
This is the relevant part of my .xinitrc:
The pinboard "pin" is then saved in ~/.config/rox.sourceforge,net/ROX-Filer as "pb_--pinboard=pin". Which is a bit odd, come to think of it! SNIP I realised that I didn't need "--pinboard=". It should be:
The pinboard "pin" is then saved in ~/.config/rox.sourceforge,net/ROX-Filer as "pb_pin". Thanks Tman - you saved me from a rookie error! _________________ My System:Arch-Arm on RPi! "RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM. RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi. |
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Tman
Joined: 22 Jan 2011 Posts: 731 Location: Toronto |
Antiloquax, And thank you as well; these exchanges help us both learn a few new tricks. 
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antiloquax
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 405 |
Hi Lobster, I haven't tried Barry's compile of Rox. What's the advantage of this over the Rox from the Arch repo? Is it smaller, faster? I may try it tomorrow if I get a chance. Anyway, today I have been continuing to make slight progress. I've installed xarchiver. I was having problems with Pygame in Python2, so I ditched that and compiled Python3.1.4. The current Arch version is 3.2.3 (I think). Pygame sound doesn't work yet with 3.2.x Since the post about the "computers at school" manual made it clear that Python 3 will be the main teaching language in the educational release, I thought it more sensible to go for Python 3. Anyway. I have pygame working now and it's importing images properly. So that's nice. I tried to install transmission-gtk, but got some errors. I will have to check my mirrors more thoroughly. 
_________________ My System:Arch-Arm on RPi! "RacyPy" puplet on Toshiba Tecra 8200. PIII, 256 MB RAM. RaspberryPy: Lobster and I blog about the RPi. |
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