Allwinner A10 chip + A13
microsoft + Arm
Feb9 2012
Microsoft details Windows for ARM at length: desktop Office applications confirmed, first devices expected with Windows 8 release
Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky has posted on his blog a report on
Building Windows 8 blog posts. The short of it
is that Windows for ARM promises to offer the same out of the box experience as the x86 edition of Windows 8. That includes the
full Windows desktop (complete with File Explorer and the like), and the same desktop Office applications including Word, Excel
and PowerPoint (but only Office applications, it seems). So-called Metro-style apps from the Windows Store will also be able to
support both Windows on ARM and Windows for x86/64, and you can expected hardware-accelerated HTML5 support
with Internet Explorer 10.
What's more, Sinofsky also notes that PC manufacturers are now working on devices designed specifically for
WOA (or Windows on ARM), and that their "collective goal" is for them to ship at the same time as PCs
designed for the x86 edition of Windows 8.
News this week from microsoft about arm:
To run Windows 8 Release Preview, your test computer will need
a processor with a clock speed of 1GHz or greater, 1GB (32-bit version),
or 2GB (64-bit version) of RAM, at least 16GB (32-bit) or 20GB (64-bit) of
available hard drive space, and a graphics card that supports DirectX 9
with a WDDM driver.
Microsoft details Windows for ARM at length: desktop Office applications confirmed, first devices expected with Windows 8 release
Microsoft's Steven Sinofsky has posted on his blog a report on
Building Windows 8 blog posts. The short of it
is that Windows for ARM promises to offer the same out of the box experience as the x86 edition of Windows 8. That includes the
full Windows desktop (complete with File Explorer and the like), and the same desktop Office applications including Word, Excel
and PowerPoint (but only Office applications, it seems). So-called Metro-style apps from the Windows Store will also be able to
support both Windows on ARM and Windows for x86/64, and you can expected hardware-accelerated HTML5 support
with Internet Explorer 10.
What's more, Sinofsky also notes that PC manufacturers are now working on devices designed specifically for
WOA (or Windows on ARM), and that their "collective goal" is for them to ship at the same time as PCs
designed for the x86 edition of Windows 8.
News this week from microsoft about arm:
To run Windows 8 Release Preview, your test computer will need
a processor with a clock speed of 1GHz or greater, 1GB (32-bit version),
or 2GB (64-bit version) of RAM, at least 16GB (32-bit) or 20GB (64-bit) of
available hard drive space, and a graphics card that supports DirectX 9
with a WDDM driver.
iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini - 35 EUR
Here is the latest info about olinuxino board which uses A13 chip
from olimex . Available for 35 EUR in July.
Specifications:
http://www.olimex.com/dev//imx233-olinuxino-mini.html
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It's nice to see the improvement to design
but apparently it has only composite video out.
Circuit diagram has been published.
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from olimex . Available for 35 EUR in July.
Specifications:
http://www.olimex.com/dev//imx233-olinuxino-mini.html
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iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini - Single Board
Linux Computer with 3xUSB host, TV-out,
GPIOs, SD-CARD, Audio-In, Audio-Out, UEXT
EURO 34.95
It's nice to see the improvement to design
but apparently it has only composite video out.
Circuit diagram has been published.
Picture of IMX233-OLINUXINO-MICROSo after evaluation of different options we add GL850G USB hub
to iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini which increase the number of USB hosts to 3,
and we spared one internal ON-board USB host where to connect the
nice RTL8188CU WiFi modules which will add WIFI to
iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini! The WIFI module will be optional,
so you can order iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini or
iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini-WIFI later with on-board WIFI module.
We run prototypes and will test them in 1-2 weeks, if everything
works as expected the production is to follow and these boards
will be ready in stock mid July.
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Re: microsoft + Arm
You know what that means, right?don570 wrote:What's more, Sinofsky also notes that PC manufacturers are now working on devices designed specifically for
WOA (or Windows on ARM)
MS have dictated to manufacturers exactly which components have to be on the SoCs... so every company will make a "different" device which is pretty much the same (and I'm not sure about WOA, but Windows Phone only supports one kind of ARM deriviative -- Qualcomm's).
What's the ugliest part of your body?
Some say your nose
Some say your toes
But I think it's your mind
Some say your nose
Some say your toes
But I think it's your mind
I made a mistake about the iMX233-OLinuXino-Mini
It uses a very low end ARM9 processor not the Allwinner A13
which is ARMv7
It uses a very low end ARM9 processor not the Allwinner A13
which is ARMv7
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ARM926 Processor
ARM9
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ARM9 is an ARM architecture 32-bit RISC CPU family. With this design generation, ARM moved from a von Neumann architecture (Princeton architecture) to a Harvard architecture with separate instruction and data buses (and caches), significantly increasing its potential speed. Most silicon chips integrating these cores will package them as modified Harvard architecture chips, combining the two address buses on the other side of separated CPU caches and tightly coupled memories.
There are two subfamilies, implementing different ARM architecture versions.
The ARM926EJ-S™ processor features a Jazelle® technology
enhanced 32-bit RISC CPU, flexible size instruction and data
caches, tightly coupled memory (TCM) interfaces and memory management unit (MMU).
It also provides separate instruction
and data AMBA® AHB™ interfaces suitable for Multi-layer AHB
based systems. The ARM926EJ-S processor implements
the ARMv5TEJ instruction set which includes an enhanced 16 x 32-bit
multiplier capable of single cycle MAC operations and 16-bit fixed point
DSP instructions to enhance performance of many signal processing
applications as well as supporting Thumb® technology.
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To Dougal:
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/05/a ... -computex/
Here's the latest Window's computer design by Asustek Computer (Asus)
shown at Computex trade show in Taipei. It can be a laptop or
a desktop computer.
It uses ARM apparently Tegra 3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
Additionally Asus unveiled three new Transformer tablets, the Book, the 810 and the 600. The Book is pretty much Asus' Zenbook with a removable display - it will be available in 11.6, 13 and 14in variants. The 810 is an Atom powered 11.6in device with a built in Wacom digitiser for accurate stylus input - it sports 64GB of internal storage, 2GB of RAM and an unspecified Intel Atom processor. Finally the 600 is a Tegra 3 powered machine with 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, running Windows RT
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/05/a ... z1wxxqgWAa
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... ablet.html
The new name is Microsoft Windows RT to avoid any use of
the word 'ARM'. Rather confusing
http://www.pcworld.com/article/253926/m ... k.mod_stln
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http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/05/a ... -computex/
Here's the latest Window's computer design by Asustek Computer (Asus)
shown at Computex trade show in Taipei. It can be a laptop or
a desktop computer.
It uses ARM apparently Tegra 3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
Additionally Asus unveiled three new Transformer tablets, the Book, the 810 and the 600. The Book is pretty much Asus' Zenbook with a removable display - it will be available in 11.6, 13 and 14in variants. The 810 is an Atom powered 11.6in device with a built in Wacom digitiser for accurate stylus input - it sports 64GB of internal storage, 2GB of RAM and an unspecified Intel Atom processor. Finally the 600 is a Tegra 3 powered machine with 2GB of RAM and 32GB of storage, running Windows RT
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/06/05/a ... z1wxxqgWAa
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... ablet.html
The new name is Microsoft Windows RT to avoid any use of
the word 'ARM'. Rather confusing
http://www.pcworld.com/article/253926/m ... k.mod_stln
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I suspect that this is also based on the A10... they don't mention the SoC, but the features seem the same.
What's the ugliest part of your body?
Some say your nose
Some say your toes
But I think it's your mind
Some say your nose
Some say your toes
But I think it's your mind
Rikomagic MK802
Rikomagic MK802 - runs Ubuntu 10 and android 4
A guy has converted his MK802 into a laptop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMVYLif ... e=youtu.be
http://youtu.be/j-UED0uc2TI
Here's the description
http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34
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A guy has converted his MK802 into a laptop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMVYLif ... e=youtu.be
http://youtu.be/j-UED0uc2TI
Here's the description
http://www.rikomagic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34
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onda-vx610w-tablet
CHLee has been able to get Barry Kauler's
mele-sd-4gb-lui-5.2.90.img.xz
to load and work on the Onda tablet ($80).
http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-vx610w- ... p-8gb.html
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 944#636944
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mele-sd-4gb-lui-5.2.90.img.xz
to load and work on the Onda tablet ($80).
http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-vx610w- ... p-8gb.html
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 944#636944
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Charbax has a video showing the factory making the MK802
http://armdevices.net/2012/05/27/55-all ... tory-tour/
http://armdevices.net/2012/05/27/55-all ... tory-tour/
Re: Buy MK802
How much money should I send then? USD or Australian Dollars or what?raffy wrote:In case you want to buy the MK802, here is the URL.
If you want to donate one for Barry (or me ), that would be much appreciated.
That thing can not be ordered yet and has only 64MB ram that is too small.
"This item can not be ordered yet."
What about the Norwegian Candy Bar USB ARM computer.
Not ready yet but much better specs? http://www.fxitech.com/products/
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
mk802 is not a tablet. video tablet looks exactly like my ainol novo7 aurora but there are many novo7 models that look the same. maybe wrong link?don570 wrote:Charbax has a video showing the factory making the MK802
http://armdevices.net/2012/05/27/55-all ... tory-tour/
OOpps.
Wrong link. Here's the tour of the small workshop that's making the
mk802. It's nothing fancy.
http://armdevices.net/2012/06/18/mk802- ... tory-tour/
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Wrong link. Here's the tour of the small workshop that's making the
mk802. It's nothing fancy.
http://armdevices.net/2012/06/18/mk802- ... tory-tour/
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Doesn't the Norwegian dongle have better specs?
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
A new kernel was developed for the mk802
Several developers on the miniand.com forum have built a kernel that solves most of the problems porting linux to the A10. The have a good version running Lubuntu. I know Barry did some work with Woof to produce a puppy build, but the kernel he was using was problematic. Now that there is a better kernel, can someone help me attach the Puppy packages to it? I have played around with Woof, but am not experienced enough to produce the .img. thanks
https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2 ... /1?page=10
https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2 ... /1?page=10
A9
Yes, Cortex-A9 is multi-core, which is what the specification says.nooby wrote:Doesn't the Norwegian dongle have better specs?
http://www.fxitech.com/products/
However, Allwinner's Cortex-A8 already works fine playing videos (the Mele is a good example).
The MK802 will be a good tool for teachers using TV or multimedia projectors in the classroom.
The great thing about the Allwinner A10 chip is it's price
and the A13 is even less.
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A10 is around $7 for 5 numbers purchase and around $12-14 for smaller quantities.
I have got one from this
http://www.beltal.com/on-sale/mini-hd-p ... 901-359395
it maybe a little expensive, but it never has something wrong
http://www.beltal.com/on-sale/mini-hd-p ... 901-359395
it maybe a little expensive, but it never has something wrong