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#1 Post by John Doe »

Of all the times I tried linux I never found a distro that measured up to the hype I heard.

That changed when I tired Puppy Linux.

It ended up being everything I had expected linux to be from the hype.
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#2 Post by Lobster »

Well said!

Puppy undersells itself - most distros are just package arrangements. Am I too scathing? :)
Puppy however runs faster. Runs from CD - fast.

I just mesed up (been testing 1.09beta, fluxbox, latest Firefox - new 3D drivers etc)
It takes me about 10 minutes (usually less than 5) to start afresh. I am back in Puppy Singer (it's a harmony thing).

Linux is hyped. Puppy is, as you say, the way I expected Linux to be. Even though I make fun of MicroSieved, people are not beating a door to Linux. They are arriving though. The interest is growing . . . Windows is good enough for most people.

Who wants to be most people?
You show me a better distro and I will use it. The closest I have seen is Austrumi. Ubuntu (which would be a choice AFTER XP or SE) reminds me of an elephant.
Big and bloated. I am experienced enough to keep the kludge of XP running but an installation is just too time consuming. There is noithing in Ubuntu I want.

I am using Puppy through choice not necessity. I do not buy the hype. Linux and BSD (they sure is vocal for such a non event) are just operating systems. I am convinced most Linux advocates spend more time saying how good Linux is, rather than improving it.
Has it improved? Oh yeah! And then some. A lot of great working progs.

I am looking very much forward (using it already) to XaraXL
http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/

Barry has been busy compiling pupgets. 1.09 beta is coming along well. Puppy 2 is becoming usable . . .

What fun! :)
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#3 Post by Sage »

To be fair, don't overlook DSL and DSL-N which have Knoppix detection, capable of dealing with certain difficult HW.
The main distributions (SuSE, Fedora & Mandriva - I hate Ubuntu) are useful to keep in reserve when nothing else works. That list is a lot smaller, now, however since the advent of udev.
Once Barry has done the biz on P2, I may have to revise the above assessment....
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#4 Post by Lobster »

Sage wrote:To be fair, don't overlook DSL and DSL-N
I would rather overlook them. They give small Linuxes a bad name. The detection on Puppy is improving and I fully accept that DSL (Knoppix recognition) is better than Puppys. So you get it running and then wish you hadn't . . .

Am I bad? :oops:
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#5 Post by John Doe »

I got this right off the DSL wiki:
Why doesn't DSL have Gnome or KDE?
Because DSL is meant to be fast and light on PC's with minimal resources.

Will DSL ever use the 2.6 kernel? Has it even been considered?
There are currently no plans to move to a 2.6.x kernel, for the following reasons....
I didn't spend too much time looking, but it didn't look like they had all the pupget or dotpup type options (or their own variation) puppy has either. Or the various optional filesystems that boost puppy to "MegaPUppy" or add a development environment.

I'll stick with puppy, thanks. :lol:
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#6 Post by John Doe »

Here is some insight from the folks at DSL about what they think of Puppy:

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-26-11029-5.html

I stumbled upon it while trying to find a way to read a squashfs in windows. What a coincidence.
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#7 Post by Pizzasgood »

They give small Linuxes a bad name.
Literally. :wink:
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#8 Post by Lobster »

John Doe wrote:Here is some insight from the folks at DSL about what they think of Puppy:

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-26-11029-5.html
I think that is fair and balanced. Most people are not "unix guys" and ease of use is the over riding consideration. It is interesting why he choose DSL (Debian and Knoppix based).
Puppy IS different. That is one reason I like it. Dell and other hardware guys are putting Lix (Linux) on their products. Just works is what they want.

Who doesn't? We are penguins. Resistence is futile.
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#9 Post by Sage »

Puppy may be the bees knees, but DSL aint that bad. I could connect first time, every time with DSL when I couldn't achieve any connection in Puppy. After Klaus showed everyone how to build a liveCD that works, DSL was the first of the compact live distro that worked in most departments. Apart from its mould-breaking modus operandi, one of the outstanding features of Puppy is that Barry and his closest allies listen and respond to users at all levels in a way that is exceptionally unusual, in Linux or any other OS. This, more than anything, strengthens the breed. Maybe Barry could take over when Howard retires?!
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