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escucha
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slackot 16.11

#151 Post by escucha »

Wow... my first non grub start problems. Lightintng loading and presto! linux last kernel working.
Is there any plans for a 64bit version of this slackot?... 32bit is for obsolet pc's I know, but innovation to dual core and/or core2 64bit is a great deal... I think.
Using firefox ESR 45.5 now. thanks for the iso.

jlst

#152 Post by jlst »

Sage wrote:As for the arguments about supplementary additions to a base distro - fine, but it's a cludge. What is needed is a basic distro like MeanPup, a working browser (Opera), a secure kernel, easy availability of video & printer drivers and a comprehensive PPM. Anything more is overkill, frills, not to say developers ego trip in many of the listings, eg on DistroWatch & co. We all know where coding bloat was born. Remember K.I.S.S. All the most important scientific innovations have been reduced to a single-line equation, viz. e=mc^2, the Dirac, the Hamiltonian, etc. John Murga, Barry Kauler and a few others are fortunately endowed with such clear thought that they are able to reduce their code ad minimus, thereby achieving elegance.
And what about wireless drivers.... they tend to need some big firmware files... what if you can't use a puppy to connect to the internet?

I used to use opera. then it failed to display many pages and some weird stuff happened very often, then i switched to QtWeb, which is the web browser i use daily in a pc with 2.4ghz celeron cpu from 2003, 20gb hard drive, 512MB ram.

To me opera is below qtweb and just slightly above dillo, (which is about 500kb gzipped) when it comes to updates.

I understand why people would want something complete but with things that are mostly useless nowadays, it's because compiling and updating apps... and uploading them to the official repos has been always a dark art in the puppy land. That's why i updated manually all the apps i use in precise... and thought, this is just as small as the previous versions... why is the pet packages repo always outdated? I didn't understand.

As for me, i always knew puppy is a "handicapped" distro that i must compile my favorite apps or download them manually from somewhere else... never trusted the PPM or used it enough to trust it. That's why the forum is so useful, you have look for download links just like when you're looking for movies or music...

You see that it's impossible to reach an agreement about what is right, and when we want something small but with the right choices - this is critical.

Pelo

Thin Slacko remains the perfect one, doesn't it ?

#153 Post by Pelo »

Why so many questions. Thin Slacko remains the perfect one, doesn't it ? What was removed to make it Thin ? printing stuff, that is sure.
But browser, a real browser, is included. I think it is impossible to get a better ratio of efficiency , excepted with Dpup squeeze (and Racy 5.3), not better but similar
Ready for use Puppy Linux, of course.
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jlst

Re: Thin Slacko remains the perfect one, doesn't it ?

#154 Post by jlst »

Pelo wrote:Why so many questions. Thin Slacko remains the perfect one, doesn't it ? What was removed to make it Thin ? printing stuff, that is sure.
But browser, a real browser, is included. I think it is impossible to get a better ratio of efficiency , excepted with Dpup squeeze (and Racy 5.3), not better but similar
Ready for use Puppy Linux, of course.
It's not retro enough, using gzip compression it will be about 120-145MB.

And firefox, seamonkey, and all mozilla apps are too heavy for a "conservative" use. I found qtweb to be the most lightweight and still usable. It may become obsolete soon though..

Pelo

QtWeb is more a browser than Dillo.

#155 Post by Pelo »

QtWeb is more a browser than Dillo. What does obsolete mean ?
My computer is now obsolete too. But enough for my needs.Pelo is obsolete too, But he is not the only one. My criteria is what i need for my pleasure with a computer.
I have a smartphone, i had a tablet, but at home thin Slacko is enough for me.
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Sailor Enceladus
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Re: ThinSlacko16-16.11

#156 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

peebee wrote:Just an experiment - probably won't be maintained

Download from SourceForge

A Woof-CE-Rationalise build using the attached config files

A cut down version of slacko-6.9.6.4 (interested to hear if anything else should have been removed). xserver_xorg_thin copied from THINSlacko-5.3.3t

Kernel in zdrv is 4.8.8 32-bit pae

No browser or firmware in the iso - an adrv with the light-48 webbrowser and an fdrv with firmware (e.g. for wifi) are in the download folder. Size still comes out at 175MB even with all these cuts....

Items removed compared to slacko-6.9.6.4 are:

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PKGS_SPECS_TABLE='
removed|abiword||exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|alsaequal||exe,dev
removed|aspell|aspell|exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|caps||exe,dev
removed|didiwiki||exe,dev
removed|gnome-icon-theme||exe>dev,dev,doc,nls| #too bloated for main fs so send to devx, needed to compile some progs
removed|gnumeric||exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|goffice||exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|gutenprint|gutenprint|exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|hiawatha||exe,dev
removed|homebank||exe,dev>null,doc,nls
removed|inkscapelite||exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|kernel_headers_musl||exe>dev
removed|linux-header|kernel-headers|exe>dev,dev,doc,nls
removed|mozilla-firefox|mozilla-firefox|exe,dev>null,doc>null| #must keep maintained if used, no from patches repo
removed|network_roxapp_samba||exe
removed|pequalizer||exe
removed|pmusic_PLUGIN_tray||exe
removed|samba||exe,dev,doc
removed|sfs_manager||exe
removed|sylpheed||exe,dev,doc>null,nls>null
removed|updates_mgr||exe
removed|xf86-video-fbdev||exe,dev,doc| #virtualbox with UEFI needs this
removed|x-keyboard||exe,dev
removed|xserver_xorg|xorg-server,xf86-video-*,xf86-input-*|exe,dev,doc,nls
substituted|xserver_xorg_thin|xorg-server,
    xf86-video-*,xf86-input-*,-xf86-video-dummy,-xf86-video-glint,
    -xf86-video-nsc,-xf86-video-radeonhd,-xf86-video-tga,
    -xf86-video-vga|exe,dev,doc,nls
removed|xvkbd||exe,dev
removed|YASSM||exe
'
Works ok for me with the adrv and fdrv. I think this is a nice idea as most things removed from 6.9.6.4 I don't use anyway.

Rodney Byne
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Unwanted Firefox language packs

#157 Post by Rodney Byne »

Hi to all,

After downloading and installing FirefoxESR 45.6.0
which took ages to finish & I now realise why,
I see in Add-Ons there are 29 non-English language packs.
These have been disabled, but how can I get rid of them please.

Also I can't see a delete button for Tray 1, is there one?

Thanks in advance, regards.

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#158 Post by musher0 »

Hello Rodney.

I believe your question will receive better visibility if you create a specific
thread for it. This thread is about the THINSlacko Puppy whereas your
question is about unwanted language packs in Firefox.

By reminding you and others of the importance of posting in the right thread,
I do not mean to downplay your problem: it's just that you'll get better
visibility for your problem by giving it its own thread -- potentially by doing
that you'll get more answers or pointers to a solution.

IHTH.
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)

Rodney Byne
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#159 Post by Rodney Byne »

To Musher,

I AM talking about Firefox in Thinslacko, I tried it out for the first time today.

I'm not an expert compiler, just asking nicely for advice from a so-called friendly forum as an innocent member of the general public.

It's no wonder linux never widely caught on in Britain when people
jump down your throat for no reason.

I shan't trouble you any more. Goodbye.

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#160 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

@Rodney Byne: Part of the confusion might be that you're talking about Tray 1, which I thought was the top bar introduced in Slacko 6.3.0 with ptheme? Maybe I need to try THINSlacko 5.3.3 and 5.5 again though, it has been quite a long time. :)

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#161 Post by musher0 »

My God. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.

It's just that's it's a "custom" on this forum, to try not to cross-post, and I
thought I was issuing a friendly reminder. Oh well...

Anyway, I don't know how you did it, but downloading all locales of
Firefox should not happen. At
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/,
you'll find a list of fully localized Firefoxes, from Acholi language to Xhosa
language, with English and French, etc., somewhere in between.

What people do is they download the Firefox version for their language.
(The Linux Firefox download link is in the fourth column vis-a-vis the
language.) That package contains only one language.

The localized version comes with your chosen language only. I looked in
the sub-dirs of my own Firefox version and I only have one set of two
files for the same language under firefox/dictionaries.

If for some reason you need an additional language file for your Firefox,
they used to have it, but I don't think they're offering it any more. At
least I couldn't find it.

So I really don't know how you ended up with a non-ending list of locales
for Firefox.

Maybe somebody else can confirm? TIA to this person.

BFN.
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)

Pelo

bug resize your slackosave

#162 Post by Pelo »

bug resize your slackosave corrected by csipesz, developer of improved Slacko 533 thin, released this year for Hungarian Puppy users, and French ones, and perhaps more, here and there
ToDoList : MTpaint crashes wen you scale pictures.
SFS-load to make available, so useful nowadays, Instead SFS grabber installed via PPM
Terminal somewhere on desktop should be easier than to search it in the depth of menus.
Beware : Hungarian version not yet get official import Visa in USA.
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Pelo

i don't see these addons (idiomas)

#163 Post by Pelo »

about Firefox, Thin Slacko provides an old version to be slim. If some fat to trim in Firefox , apply it.. However i don't see these addons. Perhaps csipesz should know.
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#164 Post by greengeek »

rufwoof wrote:I've also added Blender 2.59 to my shared googledrive set (together with a recordmydesktop sub-directory that contains the relevant PET's for that to work under Slacko 5.3.3t). The Blender 2.59 version works best with the Openshot video editor also in that set - for unknown reasons 2.63 doesn't work with that version of Openshot.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing
Hi Rufwoof - I have picked up xara extreme portable from that link but don't know how to get it running - it doesn't look like an executable or a pet or sfs. Any suggestions?
cheers

EDIT : Got it sorted - it is an ELF executable file but needed the permissions changed to make it executable. cheers
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