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greengeek
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#46 Post by greengeek »

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Thanks micko. I'm very happy with the outcome.

I have modified the /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown as follows:

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13) #PDEV1 and PUPSFS and PUPSAVE
  #/initrd/pup_rw has tmpfs, pup_ro1 has ${DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX}save.2fs file (PUPSAVE), pup_ro2 has PUPSFS file.
  #the above are in unionfs at /.
  if [ ! -f "/tmp/No_save" ];then 
  #start big if
  #All the snapmerge stuff happens here
  echo "`eval_gettext \"Saving session to \\\${SAVEFILE} (\\\${SAVEPART})...\"`" >/dev/console
  #echo "Saving session to $SAVEFILE (${SAVEPART})..." >/dev/console
  /usr/sbin/snapmergepuppy /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_rw
  fi #end big if
  ;;
then added a script "No_save" into /usr/bin as follows:

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#!/bin/sh 
echo "test" > /tmp/No_save
/usr/bin/wmpoweroff
and then dragged the script to the desktop and added an icon, so that if I want to do a safe shutdown without waiting for the final save I just click that new icon.

Many thanks for the help!
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#47 Post by 2000kevin2000 »

I want to put this on a computer with 96MB RAM and a 166MHZ Pentium MMX... Would this be too taxing on the hardware, should I go for a build like TurboPup or one of the 486/32MB builds instead?

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#48 Post by Keef »

The standard Slacko was quite slow on a P450 laptop I tried it on - and verrrrrry slow to get to the desktop.
THINSlacko is stripped down, but unlikley to be significantly quicker on something as old as your kit.

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#49 Post by Smithy »

Currently running this distro and everything is working well, printing,network, jack, gimp etc. A new candidate for a musicians distro I reckon!
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#50 Post by greengeek »

Hey Smithy, what's the "Partition save" icon you have on the desktop in the third pic?

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#51 Post by Smithy »

Hi greengeek, it is the Linux version of Partition Saving.

http://damien.guibouret.free.fr/en/index_frame.html

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#52 Post by 01micko »

Next version is coming soon!

A sneaky peek...
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Easter

#53 Post by raffy »

Look what's coming on Easter.

Will be waiting. :)
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].

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#54 Post by nooby »

using the standard Slacko I have these result of free

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3113396 675136 2438260 0 250500
-/+ buffers: 424636 2688760
Swap: 0 0 0
#

3GB DRAM and it uses up 675MB? What does that indicate?
Have I set it up wrong?

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Using the old Thinslacko that is from may 2012
I get this result before making a save file

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3113496 340372 2773124 0 41412
-/+ buffers: 298960 2814536
Swap: 0 0 0
#
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#55 Post by 01micko »

nooby wrote:using the standard Slacko I have these result of free

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3113396 675136 2438260 0 250500
-/+ buffers: 424636 2688760
Swap: 0 0 0
#

3GB DRAM and it uses up 675MB? What does that indicate?
Have I set it up wrong?
No, that's ok nooby. Normally, on clean boot you would expect around 400M, this is the sfs expanded. Then open a few apps, browser with tabs and such it quickly increases. I am just trying to get the THIN version (will be renamed "thin".. no caps) to load in less than 256 RAM. So far in virtualbox it seems to work ok. The biggest problem for me is that to maintain decent graphics support, mesa is absolutely required with these newer X.org versions, and that is one FAT package! (~30M).

I hope this gives you some understanding. Never mind if it doesn't :wink: . You have 3 gig so are in luxury :) .
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#56 Post by nooby »

Yes but I do have an old HP computer
that I bought 2003 and that one actually have
only 256MB DRAM so keep at it :)
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#57 Post by Smithy »

Hi 01 micko, nice that you are still working on the thin slacko idea, just a few things I noticed on it.

1. Abiword only opens as a small square, each time you have to resize it to get it to open full screen.
2. The console could do with copy and paste (like 3hd, for those lazy moments).

3. Any way of getting the qt in it to default to clear look or whatever it is called, the one that looks a lot nicer on jack in 3hd. Without having to load a full QT which is quite a large package?

4. Synaptics is still knackered on laptop (like a lot of other distros)
Only 3hd correctly sorted the touchpad. The problem is the tap bit and I haven't managed to get it to work on loads of them (believe me i tried) so they get junked.

5. After sorting out the connection wizard, each time you boot up and hit connect, it runs through the wizard process again before finally getting to connect. What I do is hit the close box on each step and then it gets there eventually.(That was the pup dial wizard btw).

Only minor issues really, but thought you might like to check if you are doing a new one.

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#58 Post by 01micko »

The next THIN, renamed "ThinSlacko" is out.

See http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 596#695596
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Slacko 5.3.3 99MB : i like it

#59 Post by Pelo »

That is a Puppy ! Great light but it makes the maximum.
It fills my needs. Just added Flasphayer and pupsavconfig.
Firefox v12 would be better perhaps (i cannot load pictures on Facebook).
Wait and see. 99 MB ! :lol:
Desktop icons : 3 themes, it's enough. We shall add personal choices.GreyFx is a nice one between the default offer.
Gtk themes: four choices, it's enough !
Well, well, well, I enjoy that way of doing.
Merci.
packages download
I must add Slacko's repositories.
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Re: Slacko 5.3.3 99MB : i like it

#60 Post by greengeek »

Pelo wrote:That is a Puppy ! Great light but it makes the maximum.
Yeah, it's one of my favourites. No bloat - just great basic functionality. Seems to have a good kernel that runs well on a lot of hardware.

What hardware are you running Pelo?

(ps: I added Opera as my browser - works great!)

Pelo

Medion P7624 laptop

#61 Post by Pelo »

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
Memory 3281MB (198MB used)
Operating System Unknown distribution
User Name root (root)
Date/Time mer. 30 oct. 2013 09:10:36 CET
Display
Resolution 1600x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH

Medion P7624 laptop, low price, 550€ (feb2012) my battery is already out !

With Slacko, the only problem I had was resizing pupsave (Slacko 5.3.3). I dont use printer because of paper and accessories cost. I did printage at work ! So this version fit my needs. Firefox 3.6.28 is a little bit weak for uploading pictures on Facebook, but not sure i must use another browser. Firefox 12 it the right version for my usage, like this thin Slacko.
I am on test... Namoroka has no updates. Hum.... strange.

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#62 Post by sunburnt »

Micko; I was curious about Slacko`s package compatibility with Slackware.
Does it have Slackware`s PM.?
Or, is it`s PM capable of using at least most of the Slackware packages directly.?

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#63 Post by 01micko »

Actually this version isn't bad with slackware compatibility. It's before BK done his "improvements" to PPM for debian/ubuntu based pups which now causes double dipping for deps. It's a problem with all pups at the moment as is being worked over now.
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#64 Post by sunburnt »

So Slackware`s PM is not in Slacko.

# Have you tried using Slackware`s PM instead of Puppy`s hobbled one.?

Seems like it might be a really good time to make a break from the past...
If it can work for 90% or so of the Slackware packages then it`s an enormous win.!
A stable repository of apps maintained by competent people. Still need to build some apps.
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#65 Post by rufwoof »

I've remastered 01micko's Thin Slacko to thin it down even more.

This version is stripped of most things, no abiwork, gnumeric, geany ... etc. Mostly just a gui and a shell script in the HOME directory that wget's the latest Firefox (currently version 28.0). Pet/SFS etc functions however are still included. I also dropped gnome-mplayer back in again as without that firefox wouldn't load.

Predominately intended as a ram only puppy version for online banking purposes. i.e. DON'T create a savefile.

Boot from CD/DVD, activate firewall, activate network, then run the script in the home directory to automatically download Firefox. (Currently it both downloads latest Firefox and also creates a SFS of that, but its the downloaded firefox that should be run i.e. in something like ~/firefox28/opt/firefox). I snitched that code (in sfs-firefox.sh) but subsequently lost the link and the author didn't include their name in the script header. I'll attribute to them once I refind where I got the code from). BIG THX obviously goes out to 00micko for slacko_5.3.3t from which this was remastered.

Concept being that a factory fresh operating system/GUI loaded into clean memory (i.e. assumes you power recycled before booting), into which the latest firefox is downloaded/installed, all running in ram, before directly visiting your bank web site (no where else before or after, don't install any add-ons (or flash) etc).

First cut web pages - spelling/grammatical errors/mistakes et al. http://tinyurl.com/o7xell5 which I'll be correcting, revising and extending (user guide etc) going forward.

UPDATE (April 2014) : Later revised ISO (V2.04) now dowloadable via http://tinyurl.com/p6qrpzt

92.9MB ISO

Changes in revised edition :

Wallpaper - whilst previous was posted as being 'free' I couldn't verify such and a bit iffy whether that's right or not, so changed to be sure.

Made windows opaque, so filled in whilst moving rather than rectangular box (making them opaque seems to let mplayer run better whilst moving/resizing).

Removed display of screen coordinates whilst moving windows.

More distinguished startup, shutdown and trash sounds

Moved drive icons to be slightly higher up - because previously when tray was set to tallest the drive titles were partially hidden.

JWM and GTK themes changed to be more aligned with each other.

Tray set to max size and added xvkbd, magnifier and calculator to the tray (by default its a UK keyboard layout, and has to be manually configured at present for other layouts (a simple matter of overwriting the XVkbd file in /etc/X11/apps_with that of the Xvkbd-country file for whatever country keyboard is desired)).

Extended download directory to also include a range of SFS's and PET's, such as
Skype, TeamView, Audacity, Blender, OpenShot, xvidcap, Virtual Machine, Wine, Samba, JRE, GIMP, Geany, Flash, NVIDIA driver, Messa, Libre Office, Kernel Sources and DevX - for the purpose of assisting those who might like to use it as a more general distro (rather than just as a online banking type distro).

Direct to GUI on both the Radeon and Nvidia PC's that I have access to. (remastering using a nvidia PC seems to help to reduce/avoid blackscreen boots).

With a relatively fast internet link, with just a blank DVD and Windows, I had a ISO downloaded and burnt (using the windows DVD burner that's included in the ISO (I used 7-Zip to extract the burner from the ISO)) within around 5 minutes. 5 minutes later I'd booted to the desktop, downloaded latest firefox, visited my download web page and downloaded OpenShot and was editing a video).


ROX has been changed to use double-clicks (right click on empty ROX space, select options and change settings in Filer-Window and Pinboard to use single clicks as you prefer).

ISO includes a windows ISO burner program for the convenience of those who might otherwise struggle.

Get (download) and run script in the home directory can be double clicked in which case you have to wait (no prompts yet) for it to complete (download 30MB of Firefox) and form the firefox sub directory, etc.

From ram boot using puppy pfix=ram,nocopy at the initial desktop I'm seeing 220MB RAM used. With gui, firewall, sound set up, firefox and flash SFS's loaded, watching a SneekyLinux YouTube RAM usage rises to around 550MB
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