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4.2.1 Installer Problem -- No partitions
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heywoodj

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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 15:32    Post subject:  4.2.1 Installer Problem -- No partitions  

I've been using Puppy for several years now on various machines and have had no particular problem with installation until now.

It's a Dell desktop with reasonable specs (2.8 GHz, 512 MB, 40 GB), but I'm having problems with the Universal Installer for 4.2.1. When the installer looks at the hard drive, it says the disk is unallocated.

The installer will allow me to install by treating the disk as a "Super Floppy". That's not what I want.


In fact the disk has many, perhaps too many partitions. Primary partitions sda1, sda2 and sda3 are (unfortunately) taken up with XP and associated Dell stuff.

Partition sda4 is split into a ext2 and a swap logical partitions.

Looking at the disk with Gparted 0.3.3 from Puppy 4.2.1 also shows the disk to be unallocated.

However the Wary 5.2.2 installer will see the partitions, as will the GParted 0.8

My main reason for using such an old Puppy is that I need Conextant HCF modem support, something I can't seem to get with the newer ones including the Warys.

So, I guess my main question is how can the 4.2.1 installer be made to see the hard drive partitions properly?

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heywoodj

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PostPosted: Wed 16 May 2012, 08:14    Post subject:  

An update: thinking the problem was the presence of an extended partition, sda4, with logical partitions (sda5 and sda6), I wiped out the logical partitions and the extended partition using Gparted 0.9.0 on Hiren's Boot CD.

Still no joy Crying or Very sad 4.2.1's installer and Gparted 0.3.3 still sees the whole drive as unallocated space.

Then I booted using a Slacko 5.3.1 CD and used the Gparted there to make a blank primary ext2 partition, sda4.

4.2.1 installer still sees the whole disk as unallocated space. What's going on? And how do I work around this?

Can I manually copy the files in / to a mounted sda4 or something like that? Or is that asking for trouble?

Thanks.

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bigpup


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PostPosted: Wed 16 May 2012, 09:28    Post subject:  

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this is all fixed, I found that running gparted from terminal window it showed an error "can not have over lapping partitions" So I run testdisk, did an analyse, wrote the changes to disk, rebooted and it all gparted to see the disk.
Run live CD and setup the partitions.
Phew

This was posted here:
http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=1161

If you use Gparted, I would suggest you use the Gparted live CD that you can get from here.
You can download a free version to make your own Gparted live CD.
It is up to date and specifically made to run Gparted.
Info:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/files/gparted-live-stable/

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heywoodj

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PostPosted: Wed 16 May 2012, 18:18    Post subject:  

bigpup,
Thanks for your input, but my problem is not with Gparted, per se. The problem is that although I can use other Gparted to create whatever partitions I desire, I cannot get the 4.2.1 installer (and incidentally GParted 0.3.3) to recognize the existence of of those partitions.

I did look at that post, http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=1161.
Running:
Code:
fdisk -lu
from terminal does spit out partition information, correct as far as I can tell. I suspect the problem may be that two of the partitions are Dell rescue and Dell utilities, and the partition types are something that this version installer cannot handle.

Any idea what the "run testdisk" and "did an analyze" translates to in Puppy?
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mini-jaguar

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 07:54    Post subject:  

Not that it's necessarily related to your specific problem, but I tried 4.2.1 in a computer that is not too old, say 5 years old, and I think it wouldn't even boot or something (I can't remember exactly what the problem was, but it wasn't working correctly). Then I tried the retro version of 4.2.1 and it worked fine.
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heywoodj

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2012, 12:36    Post subject:  

mini-jaguar wrote:
Not that it's necessarily related to your specific problem, but I tried 4.2.1 in a computer that is not too old, say 5 years old, and I think it wouldn't even boot or something (I can't remember exactly what the problem was, but it wasn't working correctly). Then I tried the retro version of 4.2.1 and it worked fine.


Hmm, interesting. I'll try out the retro version, next.

I've been trying to update the Gparted 0.3.3 with patched and newer versions using .pets, but no progress. It still sees an entire unallocated drive.

BTW, fdisk shows:
Code:
# fdisk -lu

Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40000000000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4863 cylinders, total 78125000 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1              63       80324       40131   de  Dell Utility
/dev/sda2   *       80325    45559807    22739741+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3        70653870    78108029     3727080   db  CP/M / CTOS / ...
/dev/sda4        45559808    70651903    12546048   83  Linux


Running "parted" (version 1.8.8 ) from console complains about undefined(?) disk label.
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