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[Vic20]

Oops...having done some more RTFM forget I asked.
Vic.

[James C]

Since this is the correct thread for the latest Fatdog64-600 release......still testing by booting cd with savefile on internal hdd.Still basically looking solid... no rigorous testing yet but installing a few pets and normal use has revealed no real problems yet.

[smokey01]

I have compiled geeqie in fd64-600b1.

It's a great little graphics viewer / photo manager but unfortunately it doesn't have a function to send photos by email.

It's fast and what I really like about it, it doesn't created a lot of thumbnails, taking up additional disk space and it's a single binary.

Works very well in Fatdog.

[nooby]

Thanks smokey01. Geeqie is different from Viewnior
but I do see merit in both of them so I downloaded it.

Edit from within FireFox 13 for FatDog 600.
Installed fast and Flash worked right away.
Thanks for compiling it. Much appreciated.

And I miss that Firewall does not have a Tray Icon
to show it is activated.

Haha Grandr has a competing prog named Zarfy
that do the same thing if one go to the Control Panel?

Can one have an icon on the desktop to the Control panel maybe?

[DC]

[gcmartin]

I set up showed them how to setup a Netboot server and boot PC over the LAN with little effort using Puppy 5-step directions. They are impressed.

Everyone should know, that FATDOG600 has a little different structure so a manual effort is required to NETBOOT (more on that later) BUT, its works when setup.

So we all made some beer bets and tore into FATDOG600-beta2. We are all impressed with it speed, but my beer challedge was a specific customization, browser shortcuts, and remaster.

The tools appears to work fine. Everyone had fun. But, at least for now we each had one problem.

Problem:
The Remaster would NOT boot over PXE kernel locks/spins...dead.

We are off to dinner and more lies. I'll update fully tomorrow on their comments and other findings.

Here to help

[capicoso]

Hey, this is a general linux 64bit question... When i download a source, do i have to specify that my system is 64bits? or i just do the usual ./configure make make install?

[01micko]

As far as I know, just ./configure should work because by default most bins install to /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib etc.

However, if you are compiling to package for other users then it is advisable to set "--prefix=/usr" at a minimum. Most distros set "--sysconfdir=/etc" and ''--localstatedir=/var" and for 64 bit "--libdir=/usr/lib64".. you could run into trouble if you install 32 bit compatibility libraries without that last one. If you are compiling on your machine for your machine architecture then the compiler will guess correctly your architecture.

HTH

[nooby]

I try to get the thing that is in FAQ but also referred to in older thread.

I refer to these two examples

[capicoso]

Thanks 01micko. I tested and compiled musescore 1.2 and lv2 plugins with no problems.

Another question. How to use bluetooth? I tried hciconfig and hcitool on console but they aren't installed... Is there other tool ?

[gcmartin]

OK, the team's finding on a technology challenged night: (eg. that is spelled "Beer, lies, and internet")

For starters, we were looking at the Hardinfo comparison of FATDOG 5.21 and FATDOG 600. in the summary section we notice that 600 is taking 1.8GB of a 4GB system vs 521 taking only 356MB.

Thus, this appears to mean that either the memory model has changed or that there are some debug tools active in the Alpha-Beta test releases that will be yanked at GA.

More to come

[gcmartin]

Exposed yesterday about the inability to boot a Remaster that did NOT have any PETs installed (desktop customizatons ONLY) on the desktop PC.

The only changes to the system was local cosmetics to the desktop in a first run of the Remaster tool to see its operations..

When we copy all the files from the ISO to /root/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg folder, the 64bit LAN PC can PXE and boot the OOTB Fatdog600 after renaming isolinux.cfg to default.

But, when same process is tried using the Remaster's ISO, the result is failure.

Below, is the different ISO's folder content.

[gcmartin]

FATDOG is designed to run on 64bit systems. It is Stable, integrated and fast. I have tested it and find it appealing. I had 3 of my senior buddies take it for a spin and discuss what they see. We see some marked additions added to the system for better systems management. But we also can foresee some user difficulties as existing Linux users or even those with some awareness may experience some startup hardships in its deployment and its use.

We also found that a couple of key subsystems are very aged or missing.

But, the appearance of this distro is a demonstration of some different approaches to boot, setup, and maintenance of a Puppy distro.
The tool sets included before boot and after desktop arrival have a newness and a freshness not seen by Puppy users until now.
They are thought-thru and presented in a different, though, logical layout. And, one can envision there usefulness with the useful stuff available in its desktop. USB processing is just one of many. Even perusing through the hardinfo reports produces some new awarenesses (see attached).

Because of its newness, users migrating directly from Windows/Macs who have never seen Linux or Puppy before now, will be starting out on this new approach.

But for current users of Puppy or Linux distros, this new approach will take some adjustments to arrive at a comfort level.

One missing thing, that I have been convince of its usefulness is a beginning "status-localization" screen that is used in all of the newer PUPs. I don't think FATDOG would lose anything by having such a startup offering either.

Another missing thing is JAVA/OpenJAVA as it paves the way for running applications that are built and run in Windows/Macs/Linux/Pads/Phones on FATDOG same as we do with video/audio formats.

Finally, the SAMBA component is NOT the 2012 version. It is a very antiquated version with missing SAMBA tools.

There are other missing items such as ability to read LVMs but, the above 3 we felt were the most pressing of items for a 64bit system.

We all agreed that this system has a lot of leeway for taking advantage of the PCs it is designed for. Namely, 64bit PCs with a built-in Ethernet adapter on the motherboard. None of us remember any 512MB 64bit PCs (not that there are not any...we've just have never seen any that ship from any factory we know of). Thus, using this small group, 1GB is the smallest 64bit PC we know of.

Thus FATDOG is inherently designed for 64bit PCs, with Ethernet adapter and 1GB+ RAM. With this kind of firepower and it only taking 100MB+ RAM when in use at desktop, there is little reason for any concern about "size" or power for any desktop user...based upon its current design. Missing subsystems could only bring increase user acceptance and greater overall benefit.

But, what does a bunch of old-IT-guys know???

[gcmartin]

Fatdog for years has had issues with Hostname and hostname update. It has been improved in this latest FATDOG600 version. There is now an option in its Control Panel (Menu>Setup>...)

This is a welcome asset to FATDOG. Thanks.

But, I want to share what one observes and propose an offer that I think would help.

Here's a progress report from the console on what one sees.

[nooby]

I am so bad at finding text .
Where do you guys tell us how to increase the savefile?
Does one have to start anew? Is there some way to get
the Firewall show in tray if it is activated or not?