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Fatdog64-600rc

#91 Post by Billtoo »

Booting from dvd with savefile.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
Memory 4045MB (158MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Fatdog64 [54d320f566]
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun Jul 1 07:02:20 2012

Operating System
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Kernel Linux 3.4.4 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Sat Jun 23 18:31:59 GMT 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Distribution Fatdog64 [54d320f566]

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Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.11.4

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.59
Direct Rendering Yes

The pvr is working in VLC, thanks for that.

Just started but no problems so far.
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#92 Post by rcrsn51 »

Has anyone been able to make a bootable flash drive with b2? Mine never get past

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Loading initrd.....................................

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#93 Post by jamesbond »

rcrsn51 wrote:Has anyone been able to make a bootable flash drive with b2? Mine never get past

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Loading initrd.....................................
I did. I didn't do anything special. Flash drive booting is very flaky and depends on the BIOS. Anyway, perhaps your system doesn't like the huge initrd. You can try to use the small initrd - use the installer for that and choose "small initrd" when asked. This will basically take the fd64-600.sfs outside initrd and make the initrd a lot smaller (like, 4 MB instead o 196MB). By default it won't load fd64-600.sfs to RAM, if you want that you can add "base2ram=yes" as boot parameter.

Billtoo - you're fast :)
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#94 Post by 01micko »

Posting from freshly downloaded Iron browser through SFS Manager, no hitches :) ..apart from slow internet! :lol:

<rant>c'mon Julia... it's 2012 already.. we pay Carbon Tax!</rant>

Used the installer for a change, done what I told it! That's exactly what it's supposed to do. :) Manually adjusted menu.lst (grub4dos been there for awhile)

More as I test. Looking nice.
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#95 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:choose "small initrd" when asked.
I can't find this option.

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#96 Post by 01micko »

rcrsn51 wrote:
jamesbond wrote:choose "small initrd" when asked.
I can't find this option.
It's in the installer, I just saw it, a checkbox.
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#97 Post by jamesbond »

rcrsn51 wrote:
jamesbond wrote:choose "small initrd" when asked.
I can't find this option.
You may not have enough memory (the operation uses /tmp and /tmp must be at least 800MB) ... just run this from terminal:

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fatdog-split-initrd.sh /path/to/your/original/initrd /output/path [/path/to/optional/tmp/dir]
.
The operation will decompress the entire fatdog and recompress it, it takes quite a while and also a lot of memory on the /tmp/dir. By default it uses /tmp, but if your /tmp is less than 800MB you'd better specify it elsewhere (e.g /mnt/sda3/tmp, etc).

The original initrd is unchanged, the output dir will be filled in with "small initrd" and "fd64-600.sfs". Why the need to decompress the entire stuff? Because we need to move/merge kernel modules from initrd to the main sfs. By doing this, you are reverting fatdog back to the standard puppy 3-files format: vmlinuz, initrd, fd64-600.sfs. Keep your original initrd, there is no way get it back once the splitting is done :oops:
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#98 Post by jamesbond »

PS:
- isomaster is in the package repository.
- fbreader is in the package repository (the desktop version is stuck at version 0.12.10? They are focusing on android now? !@#%$#)
- miredo (as discussed here) is in the package repository.
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#99 Post by jamesbond »

capicoso wrote: Puredata is a graphical programming language. The user connects objects with other objects, those objects do things, like fft, convert signals. They're programmed on C. Maybe for that... Why the latest glibc i don't know(they always work with latest ubuntu, and latest ubuntu has latest glibc, maybe that's why) ... It's not the official PD i want to use tho. It's one named pd-l2ork. That's only available for linux and is the best so far(that's one of the reasons i moved 100% to linux)...
Interesting, I need to check it out sometime.
The problem is that they delete older versions from the webpage. Maybe i could email them to give me an older one...
They are not the only ones. Try for example find the older sources for Fotoxx ... which doesn't use gtk3 :shock:
The older ones i have are for 32bit... How do you think i could make it work with earlier glibc?
If you have the sources you can try to hack the autoconf/configure files to allow building with earlier version of glibc; when the compile fails then find the offending functions and find a replacement which is available in earlier glibc. Sorry I can't go further than that unless I look at the source.
The worst part(for me) is that it's the main program i use.
Ouch! :cry:
BTW. Puredata relies on tk and tcl. They're in the fatdog repo, i downloaded them but puredata still couldn't see them. Puredata was looking for tk8.5.so.0 and the lib was named tk8.5.so. I had to add .0 to the lib and got fixed. I don't know if it's a puredata problem or the libs...
Libs problem. All libs should have something that ends with so.0 or so.1 etc, and there a symlink from .so to .so.0.
edit: Loaded my savefile before attempting to update glibc and did it again paying more attention and all... Now everything works fine... at least it looks like it... I'm a bit scared though, what programs can i run to see if i didn't corrupt them?
Well if you system can boot to desktop, the usual apps works (e.g geany, abiword, qtractor, libreoffice etc) then you should be safe enough. As usual, no guarantee :wink:
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#100 Post by jamesbond »

600rc release announcement here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79424.
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#101 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:
jamesbond wrote:choose "small initrd" when asked.
I can't find this option.
You may not have enough memory (the operation uses /tmp and /tmp must be at least 800MB) ...
That explains it.
Flash drive booting is very flaky and depends on the BIOS.
No kidding. I tried three different 64-bit machines, two different flash drives and Syslinux/Grub4dos. No combination would boot the large initrd.

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#102 Post by jamesbond »

rcrsn51 wrote:No kidding. I tried three different 64-bit machines, two different flash drives and Syslinux/Grub4dos. No combination would boot the large initrd.
Does it boot the small initrd? I have one flash drive that cannot boot my desktop - no matter whatever puppies/grub4dos/syslinux or fat16/fat32/ext2 I put on it. The same drive will boot my laptop :?
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#103 Post by Gobbi »

rcrsn51 wrote:Has anyone been able to make a bootable flash drive with b2? Mine never get past

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Loading initrd.....................................
I just did it and it works fine . :)

kirk , jamesbond , you are fast ...

I've also seen the repo is richer now... Now I'll try the release candidate and fit in other pets .

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#104 Post by nooby »

Somebody suggested one can fool the boot process by pretending the
big initrd to be a standard initrd.gz and then maybe it boots? Sadly no link

I have not tested this b/c I boot from HD
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not an ideal solution though

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#105 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:

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fatdog-split-initrd.sh /path/to/your/original/initrd /output/path [/path/to/optional/tmp/dir]
So I set up an external tmp with lots of space and ran the command. The second unsquashfs operation aborted at 34% with a "Killed" message. However, the procedure continued to build a new initrd and sfs.

The new setup booted from USB, but the sfs must be incomplete. It threw a bunch of errors and wouldn't start X.

I probably need a machine with more horsepower to do this properly.

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#106 Post by winwin »

rcrsn51 wrote:Has anyone been able to make a bootable flash drive with b2? Mine never get past

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Loading initrd.....................................
I did also, but I add "waitdev=5" after kernel command:

kernel /vmlinuz waitdev=5
initrd /initrd

Maybe this "5 seconds" is for the system to detect the flash drive. :D

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#107 Post by kickstart »

@rcrsn51

Here is my modified menu.lst entry for FD600 after your advice.

title Fd64 600b2 (sda3/Fatdog600b2)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /Fatdog600b2/initrd
kernel /Fatdog600b2/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sda3:/Fatdog600b2/fd64save.ext4
# kernel /Fatdog600b2/vmlinuz psubdir=Fatdog600b2 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
initrd /Fatdog600b2/initrd.

That works just fine.

Time to have a look at 600rc I think.

@ Nooby

Have you tried downloading from nluug if ibiblio is slow? When I downloaded the FD600b2 .iso from there I got a 1MB/sec download speed and it took around 3 minutes. I generally only get around 70kB/sec from ibiblio.

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#108 Post by nooby »

Yes the .nl is much faster. Usually an .iso in under 3 minutes or faster.
Sometimes some 30 seconds or so for small ones. But they had not
RC when I looked for it yesterday so I took it from Ibiblio and it took
some 35 or so minutes. I tested it and it worked with the old save file.

Kind of cheating to only do an upgrade Would be better as a test
if I had started all over but I where lazy.

Besides I am a single user being root kind of person so the multi user part
would never get tested at my shack. I don't even know how to do such things.

Thanks to Kirk and JamesBond for all effort you guys put into this.
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#109 Post by kickstart »

Yes the .nl is much faster. Usually an .iso in under 3 minutes or faster.
Sometimes some 30 seconds or so for small ones. But they had not
RC when I looked for it yesterday
Ah you must have tried quite early then. I downloaded it from nluug 14 hours ago (midnight CET)

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#110 Post by jamesbond »

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