Quirky bugs

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martinus
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Quirky bugs

#1 Post by martinus »

Hallo friends 30.1.16
Different Puppies are used for 10 years. Mostly they are excellent. Windows is no longer used. I try to avoid Windows access to my hardware.
So I have computers totally without MS.

Now I try it with Quirky, which is really fast. I am lucky, Quirky comes with seamonkey instead of sylpheed, which usually does not work in other Puppies (often: relaying denied)

But even Quirky has bugs, which are not yet realized by English speaking developers.

1. When I set up a Puppy for my region, for my keyboard I write "German- Switzerland" But, what happens? Since years II get the "German" which is "de". I think not everybody understands that there are many differences between German and Swiss-German keyboards. In all Puppies in /etc/X11/xorg.conf I had to change "de" to "ch,ch". That works. The Gernan-Switzerland keyboard is somewere lodged in the Puppies.. I think for a developer, who understands the inside of Puppy it must be trifle to introduce "ch,ch", when German- Switzerland was chosen. Lets do it!

2. In Lucid image titles of my Pictures were understood, even, when I used umlauts as ä,ö,ü.
In newer releases it was forgotten (except in Slacko6.3).
In Quirky those Pictures can not be opened at all, as seen in the attachment. Can I change it myself? Let me please know how.
kind regards
martinus
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#2 Post by bigpup »

You do not tell us what version of Quirky you are using.

The latest is:
Quirky 7.4
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00299

Understand that Quirky is not an Official version of Puppy.
It is a test bed for trying to do new things.
What Quirky is not
Unlike Puppy, Quirky is not intended for "everybody". I don't bother too much with putting out beta releases for extensive testing, for example. I may or may not be bothered to put in lots of kernel drivers and applications. I'm not really aiming to please anyone except myself -- or rather, it will be nice if many people like Quirky, but given that it is the plaything for me to try ideas, it cannot be expected to cater for everyone
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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martinus
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Quirky bug

#4 Post by martinus »

Hallo bigpup 31.1.16
Thanks for fast answer. My Quirky is latest. Please understand, my post from yesterday is not a question of puppy version.
All Puppies, Slackos, Tahrs, Quirkies .... come now with these language and font dependent bugs.

The umlaut font bug (ä,ö,ü) was introduced after Lucid 528 and not yet removed. Only in the new Slacko 6.3.0 those files can be opened. But they can not be moved to a usb-stick. Was that "half-debugging"?

Please forward the problems to the responsible friends.
kind regards
martinus

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#5 Post by bigpup »

Change the topic subject to something that is more about the problem.
Example:
language and font dependent bugs

Quirky bugs makes everyone think this is only about Quirky.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#6 Post by Karl Godt »

Puppy uses a very old Xorg xkb package .
Config files are in /etc/X11/xkb for different keyboard layouts.
Dougal "fixed" a few flaws therein .

Newer Pups may have gotten the newest Xorg xkb package build in .
That may lead to troubles with older setup scripts like quicksetup, rc.country, chooselocale, etc. .

Just a thought.
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#7 Post by Karl Godt »

One workaround for such red coloured Umlauts files on Windows filesystems had been to
right click on the file in the Rox-Filer file manager , click "rename" , not renaming, but just clicking "OK"
and then suddenly the files do not show as red anymore .

UTF-8 may be needed to be selected in the locale environment .

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locale
locale -a
should show something like

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bash-3.00# locale
LANG=de_DE.utf8
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=C
here in my personal case .

FAT file system has mount options.
These FAT mount options is cared for in /usr/local/bin/drive_all , which gets copied as /root/.pup_event/drive_sda6/AppRun file .
That mount script should care for the "correct" mount options.

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#w476 modify codepage and iocharset (note: this code also in /usr/sbin/pmount)...
    #note, could also set iocharset=iso8859-2 (default: codepage=437, iocharset=iso8859-1)
    NLS_PARAM=''
    if [ -f /etc/keymap ];then #set in /etc/rc.d/rc.country
     KEYMAP=`cat /etc/keymap | cut -f 1 -d '.'`
     case $KEYMAP in
      de|be|br|dk|es|fi|fr|it|no|se|pt)
       NLS_PARAM=',codepage=850'
      ;;
      slovene|croat|hu101|hu|cz-lat2|pl|ro_win)
       NLS_PARAM=',codepage=852,iocharset=iso8859-2'
      ;;
     esac
    fi
    mount -t vfat -o shortname=mixed,quiet${NLS_PARAM} /dev/$ONEDRVNAME /mnt/$ONEDRVNAME #v411
Since ch_CH is not mentioned in the case lines, you may try to add ch to them like

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ch|de|be|br|dk|es|fi|fr|it|no|se|pt)
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Macpup user since 2010 on full installations.
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