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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 16:27    Post subject:  Favorite Desktop Environment/ Window Manager  

I have been using Puppy Linux 5.2.8 for a few months now and really like it. My main DE/Window manager is Outbox. I like it because it is simple and easy to configure which is basically what I am looking for after using Macs for many many years. I tried Macpup but am still running into E17 issues that I don't seem to have when using Outbox.

Which DE/WM do you use? Whhat do you like about it?
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harii4


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 20:26    Post subject:  

Ok,
Outbox - is that Openbox? Confused
If not - please point me to it.

so many nice ones to pick..... Very Happy
Oroborus
evilwm
BadWM
Sithwm
yeahwm
cwm
mcwm
blackbox
fluxbox
and many more.... Very Happy
evilwm and yeahwm are my favorite. Cool

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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 20:32    Post subject:  

Sorry about that! I meant Openbox. Sometimes I get so confused with all the Linux stuff I am learning Smile
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 20:36    Post subject:  

I never heard of evilwm and yeahwm. Can I use it with Puppy Linux? Same goes for the other WM's you mention. I didn't think there were so many. This is what I have in my Puppy install.
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stu90


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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 23:16    Post subject:  

Openbox + tint2 are my favorite windows manager and panel.
I like that both are fairly minimal yet still very customizable.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 04:50    Post subject:  

I have never tried tint2. Do you use it instead of fbpanel? How can I try it out in my puppy setup?
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stu90


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 07:13    Post subject:  

rmcellig wrote:
I have never tried tint2. Do you use it instead of fbpanel? How can I try it out in my puppy setup?


Yes i use Tint2 instead of Fbpanel - to use tint2 you will need to disable fbpanel.

I don't have Puppy Linux 5.2.8 installed so im not 100% sure but you can probably get it from the repository - If not try this link + setup guide:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64572
Be aware though earlier versions of tint2 is just a panel and system tray, no launchers and no gui customization.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 08:35    Post subject:  

OK. Thanks for the info!! What distro are you using?
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stu90


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 08:55    Post subject:  

rmcellig wrote:
OK. Thanks for the info!! What distro are you using?

Hello Rmcellig,
I am running the latest version of Pemasu's Dpup Exprimo.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76247
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 09:09    Post subject:  

I never heard of this puppy distro. Guess I will have to take a look Smile. Thanks again!!
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wingevil

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 12:56    Post subject:  

I did a lot of experiences with different wm's on some slackware-based distros and slackware himself. Now that I've switched to puppy slacko, I only use JWM. Because it works. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 13:15    Post subject:  

Right now I am using Openbox in Lucid Puppy 5.2.8. JWM is also installed but I never really had a chance to explore it.

Have you ever used Openbox? What are the differences compared to JWM?
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`f00


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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 14:15    Post subject:
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hi rmcellig,

openbox has a much more complete config at ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml, jwm tends to run lighter with a decent set of features native to it. ob has autoraise with delay..

mmrm, here's some old-ish blither for a sample of wm/de/etc - favorite? depends on what I'm up to (afterstep, blackbox, ctwm, dwm, e16, ede, evilwm, fluxbox, flwm, fvwm (95, 262 and 306/crystal), icewm, jwm, mcwm, miwm, a 'bare' openbox, pekwm, qlwm, treewm, twm, wmx and yeahwm as far as I recall - it takes two plogouts to conveniently hold what I currently have on p431 and wary514, remembering the various binds can be tricky for my memory as 'tis Wink )
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 16:39    Post subject:  

Because I am using Openbox I should be modifying the rc.xml file, or should I use the GUI options available off the puppy menus? Is there more flexibility modifying the RC file itself? Keep in mind that I am new to all this but find it pretty exciting.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jul 2012, 18:09    Post subject:
Subject description: ob's rc.xml
 

re Smile - use the obconfig gui first (usually in the bottom part of ob's menu), that does the very top part of the rc.xml

Make a backup of rc.xml (say rc.xmlOEM) before editing binds and stuff by hand - the top part will change but the binds are OEM (just in case you futz something you don't have to dig in a ro for the real original or do a pfix=ram Rolling Eyes )

Then dig into all the key and mouse binds - often there's several ways to perform an action, or several actions that can be performed (depending on the area where you do the input). Be aware of subtle differences like press, on release and so on - it took me awhile to get button2 on titlebar to toggle the shade effect without having to move off the titlebar on release (my scrollwheel died sometime back from using it as button2 on dumb pups that didn't get the imp/s2 protocol, ignoring the perfectly good sidebutton that I usually use). I also put in a bind for rootmenu and clientmenu (just in case the mouse dies, I can still use the kybd to get these)

Test your bind - save your edit to the rc.xml (leave the editor open but min or shade it), do a reconfig (pretty sure that's in the bottom part of obmenu as well - if not, obmenu-refresh does it as last part of its action from the menu). Try the bind, if it works as expected Cool if not, go back to editing (why the editor is left open, eh?)

dept of &etc - at one time I used xfce4 (standard in Gray's NOP puplets and the Saluki branch) .. nice compositing effects but the rest of it can be a rpita (imxho, of course) in aftermarket versions if you use other wms as well. A few dotpets even did some rather odd stuff - one changed the mimetypes (making rox pretty unhappy Sad ). C'est la vie in the just-click-the-dotpet world, sometimes Laughing
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