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First puppy that will not suspend on this machine
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bwh1969

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Location: Allentown, PA
PostPosted: Fri 20 Jul 2012, 13:13    Post subject:  First puppy that will not suspend on this machine  
Asus 1201T with Athlon Neo 64 bit, 4 GB ram, radeon 3200 graphics

Code:
sh-4.1# uname -r
3.1.10-slacko_paeA
sh-4.1#


Suspend does not work, and acpitool -s gives:
Code:
sh-4.1# acpitool -s
 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.


acpi-tool-0.5.1 racy-5.3 version caused a lockup situation where the caplock button flashed rapidly and I had to to a hard shutdown. T

I found code for it acpitool 0.51 and compiled it and I have the same issue.

lsmod, relevant modules: it looks like laptop modules for acpi are congruent to what I have seen in other distros (i.e. slightly older puppies, ubuntu 12.01)

eeepc_wmi 1720 0
asus_wmi 10796 1 eeepc_wmi


In /proc/acpi there is no "sleep" file:-( Something is either set up differently OR something is not loading as a needed module. I cannot just create a dummy file there to see what happens because it just won't let me

Code:
sh-4.1# cd /proc/acpi
sh-4.1# ls
ac_adapter  alarm  battery  button  event  wakeup
sh-4.1#


I have NEVER had sleep issues with any puppy on this machine.

Currently, I have replaced the suspend script with one that checks for ac adapter, prevents anything from happening with ac power, and then does a wmpoweroff after a two minute delay when on battery. Running off an SSD so boot is less than a minute. Still, suspend would be nice.

Ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 18:06    Post subject:  
Quote:
could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.

Try this:
In Rox file manager.
Check the properties of the sleep file /proc/acpi/sleep
Make sure write access is checked for all.
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jul 2012, 19:27    Post subject:  
I am not sure : Normally these files are not needed in /proc/acpi .

The relevant files are in /sys/power:

disk image_size resume state

Code:
cat /sys/power/state

gives me
Quote:
standby mem disk


Quote:
2.6.30.9-KRG-i386-compiled-AcerLaptop-rev2

Where in kernel configuration ACPI Hibernation and Sleep have to be enabled .
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_PM_SLEEP=y

The kernel configuration file should normally be found in /etc/modules named DOTconfig-* and can also be found as /proc/config.gz IF kernel symbol CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y|m .

*

Another problem could occur if [/usr]/[s]bin/acpid is running . This acpi daemon occupies /proc/acpi/event and other binaries can be confused by not being allowed to read it because in use by acpid .

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I would do a quick'n' dirty ' echo mem > /sys/power/state ' to check what happens . I had an unaccessible HDD connected once and that was enough to make the kernel return to desktop and not go to sleep .

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EDIT : The racy acpitool from here acpi-tool-0.5.1 racy-5.3 is patched to support kernel versions >=3.0 :
Quote:
- if(strncmp(str,"2.6",3)==0)
+ else

where i am not sure if this means geater than 2.6.30(.0) or precisely greater than 2.6.3(.0) .

It is a simple patch by Debian maintainers . This patch could probably break things for kernel 2.6... . Debian is rough ware like some Puppy . So running Slacko Kernel 2.6.37.6 experiences with this acpitool are welcome !
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bwh1969

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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jul 2012, 15:12    Post subject:  
Took a picture with my phone, after doing

Code:
echo mem > /sys/power/state


See attached, it is the same thing that happens when using the "racy" acpitool 0.51. Capslock then flashes quickly which is generally happens during a "panic" situation.

Code:
cat /sys/power/state


gives only

Code:
mem
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 Description   
 Filesize   13.24 KB
 Viewed   339 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 17:59    Post subject:  
Did you try what I suggested?
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 18:14    Post subject:  
bwh1969 wrote:
Took a picture with my phone, after doing

Code:
echo mem > /sys/power/state


See attached, it is the same thing that happens when using the "racy" acpitool 0.51. Capslock then flashes quickly which is generally happens during a "panic" situation.

Code:
cat /sys/power/state


gives only

Code:
mem


Looks the kernel code is not ok . The kernel code changes a lot between a.b.x and a.b.(x+1) .

http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

Quote:
no_console_suspend
[HW] Never suspend the console
Disable suspending of consoles during suspend and
hibernate operations. Once disabled, debugging
messages can reach various consoles while the rest
of the system is being put to sleep (ie, while
debugging driver suspend/resume hooks). This may
not work reliably with all consoles, but is known
to work with serial and VGA consoles.


I would put that kernel parameter into the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
like

" kernel /puppy_version/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pdev=sdb1 no_console_suspend "

And of course check as bigpup said, permissions :
Code:
ls -lR /proc/acpi

mine is
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-26 00:15 sleep
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bwh1969

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 20:16    Post subject:  
Code:
sh-4.1# ls -lR /proc/acpi


Code:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 ac_adapter
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 alarm
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 battery
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 button
-r-------- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 19:59 event
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 wakeup


And with the added grub option no_console_suspend, the racy version says now::

Code:
sh-4.1# acpitool -s
 Function Do_Suspend : could not open file : /proc/acpi/sleep.
 You must have write access to /proc/acpi/sleep to suspend your computer.


Notably, since sleep does not exist in /proc/acpi, I guess it would be difficult to write to.

which before it would try to suspend and lock up. So now the only way to get an attempt at suspend is
Code:

echo mem > /sys/power/state


and again, X is killed and a bunch lines scroll by in the terminal and it locks up with the flashing caps lock.

I am not a kernel compiler, but obviously, there is something awry with the way the kernel is compiled to get sleep to work on this machine.

Specs again

Asus 1201T eeepc
1.6 GHz Athlon Neo 64 bit
4 GB RAM
Radeon 3200 Graphics
Realtek 8192se wifi

full results
Code:
sh-4.1# ls -lR /proc/acpi
/proc/acpi:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 ac_adapter
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 alarm
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 battery
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 button
-r-------- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 19:59 event
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 wakeup

/proc/acpi/ac_adapter:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 AC0

/proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC0:
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 state

/proc/acpi/battery:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 BAT0

/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0:
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 alarm
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 info
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 state

/proc/acpi/button:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 lid

/proc/acpi/button/lid:
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 LID

/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID:
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-07-25 20:05 state


Code:
sh-4.1# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0)


Code:
sh-4.1# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
cpufreq_ondemand        4301  1
powernow_k8            10331  1
mperf                    851  1 powernow_k8
iptable_mangle           904  0
iptable_nat             2575  0
nf_nat                  9805  1 iptable_nat
ipt_REJECT              1529  1
nf_conntrack_ftp        4065  0
nf_conntrack_irc        2379  0
iptable_filter           804  1
xt_state                 791  19
nf_conntrack_ipv4       7226  22 iptable_nat,nf_nat
nf_conntrack           37918  6 iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_conntrack_irc,xt_state,nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_defrag_ipv4           787  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
ip_tables               7021  3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
fan                     1714  0
snd_hda_codec_realtek   192633  1
arc4                     978  2
ecb                     1401  1
snd_hda_intel          16434  0
snd_hda_codec          54223  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep               3704  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss            27363  0
snd_mixer_oss           9846  1 snd_pcm_oss
btusb                   7813  0
bluetooth              60647  1 btusb
snd_pcm                47101  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
uvcvideo               46209  0
videodev               57950  1 uvcvideo
snd_seq_dummy            907  0
rtl8192se              66372  0
fglrx                2836724  41
rtlwifi                68797  1 rtl8192se
mac80211              135762  2 rtl8192se,rtlwifi
cfg80211              113722  2 rtlwifi,mac80211
snd_seq_oss            19155  0
snd_seq_midi            3248  0
snd_rawmidi            11838  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event      3636  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
pcspkr                  1195  0
snd_seq                32220  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
agpgart                18054  1 fglrx
atl1c                  23233  0
snd_timer              11743  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          3541  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
k8temp                  2351  0
snd                    32906  12 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore               3321  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          4777  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
i2c_piix4               6468  0
i2c_core               12559  2 videodev,i2c_piix4
eeepc_wmi               1720  0
asus_wmi               10796  1 eeepc_wmi
sparse_keymap           1936  1 asus_wmi
rfkill                  9954  3 bluetooth,cfg80211,asus_wmi
shpchp                 17991  0
wmi                     5863  1 asus_wmi
battery                 8263  0
video                   9383  0
thermal                 6162  0
evdev                   5816  1
button                  3275  1 fglrx
processor              20517  2 powernow_k8
thermal_sys             9722  4 fan,video,thermal,processor
hwmon                    965  3 k8temp,asus_wmi,thermal_sys
ac                      2293  0
fuse                   47547  2
aufs                  119852  74
squashfs               18852  1


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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 09:44    Post subject:  
looks like the acpi modules are loaded : ac=power-adapter, button=ON/OFF-button, fan=:, battery=:, video=:, thermal=:

evdev for the keyboard is also loaded and also frequency scaling by cpu_freq_ondemand and powernow_k8 available .

No clue really . Have myself problems with suspend now, the same like yours .

Tried

chmod 0666 /proc/acpi/sleep
disconnect from internet before
set SLEEP from S1 to S3 in the Bios

with no luck .

It is the kernel configuration i am most confident of, must try other kernels .
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:47    Post subject: Rock and hard place  
Bummer... I have a multitude of challenges that I don't feel like getting past with any puppies lately.

1> I want to use all of my 4 GB, having an athlon neo 64 bit
2> I want to use the fglrx driver
3> The rtl8192 wifi needs to work
4> I want suspend
5> Fast boot

-Item 1 for most puppies don't work
-Any Slacko PAE kernel (or regular), wish 4 doesn't work
-Fatdog, I can't get X to work, even with radeon unless I steak an xorg for radeon for another working puppy. Might tinker with this if ati pet is available for kernel it is built on
-Icepuppy 14 has highmem, but wish 3 seems not to come true
-Lighthouse has all the features I want, but takes forever to boot, like 3 times longer than Kubuntu 12.04.

I put an SSD in this machine so Kubuntu rocks, even with full KDE although being that ubuntu is heavier, the processor spends more time at its top end and the battery kicks fast.
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 11:20    Post subject:  
Lighthouse has all the features I want, but takes forever to boot, like 3 times longer than Kubuntu 12.04.

Since when has five been a multitude and forever been timed at less than five minutes?

Use Lighthouse and suspend at will, but only reboot or shutdown once in a blue moon!
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 16:19    Post subject: You know  
Everyone wants everything today, these days:-)

I managed to get IcePuppy 14 with PAE going, which is lupu with a different kernel, so I had to track down the source sfs, and then I got the rtl8192se tar and built the .ko for that, then I got the radeon ati 11-12 from amd and the .run package ran and installed, then lastly, I used a slacko sfs for Virtualbox and did a "vboxdrv setup" to force the package to make the new modules.

So, Now I have what I want:-) It pretty much serves like Slacko does, but not only with suspend, but some nice acpi features that interact with power such that good things happen pugged and unplugged regarding performance and screen brightness.

If I knew how to bag this thing up for anyone, I would:-) I could remaster it, but I think it has limited need at the moment.
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