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#331 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

01micko wrote:MHHP

gapan has solved the depfinder issue on the Salix forum, so in future versions we can test out installing audacious and be confident that at least the database has the correct dependencies listed.
:) Thanks for running that one down (and up(stream)) - will re-download the Slackware-14.0 PACKAGES.TXT from Salix ...........
So that's one upstream bug solved out of.. how many? :roll:
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Re: cinnamon 1.6

#332 Post by Q5sys »

mikeslr wrote:Hi Jejy69,

Somewhat of a cryptic post about cinnamon 1.6. Was it supposed to be to the LXPup thread? Looks like a rather interesting alternative desktop. Is there a pet? or can it be downloaded and installed using one of the sources listed here: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?page_id=61? Which? Or will that depend on which Puppy?

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Cinnamon is a fork of gnome. Im sure it can be installed using the slackware repos when thats worked out and is working smoothly.

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Fontwizard 0.0.1

#333 Post by ETP »

01micko wrote:
well @<2k I think fontwizard can go into the build..

ETP, funnily enough I have the older tempicon on the laptop I'm posting from and after a reboot the font went small! (after tweaking with fontwizard)
Some brief research tells me that SVG does not support hinting. This explains my previous observations. Having said that, the current blue SVG temperature images are fine with or without fontwizard. It would make a worthy addition to the build as it benefits not only those with poor vision but anyone with a small low resolution LCD screen.
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#334 Post by ICPUG »

rcrsn51 wrote:
ICPUG wrote:1) Grub will not detect an unformatted drive
GRUB gets its information from the BIOS. You would think that the BIOS would be aware of a drive even if it was unformatted.

But I once had a situation where GRUB ignored a drive simply because no partition on it had a boot flag set - even though GRUB doesn't use the boot flag! I concluded that the BIOS was skipping the drive because it didn't appear to be bootable.

Maybe the same thing is happening with your sda. Try putting a little dummy partition on it and flagging it bootable. Does (hd1,0) now work as expected?

Then take the boot flag off.
I am not going to try this any time soon. I am very worried now that if I create partitions/format that disk Windows will start to recognise it, get upset and not boot (or worse still says it is a pirate copy because the hardware configuration is different). I know I am being very pessimistic but I don't want to lose anything. I would like to swap the connections on the disks so that they are connected properly but lethargy and confidence prevents me at the moment!

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Re: Booting

#335 Post by ICPUG »

ETP wrote:ICPUG,

This may be a red herring, but looking at your last post did you actually use:

PMEDIA= or pmedia=

Similarly did you use:

PDEV1= or pdev1=

If the former in both cases, puppy may have simply ignored those boot codes, relied on its own search algorithms and come to the right or wrong conclusion itself. If puppy does not recognise a boot code it simply ignores it and AFAIK the case matters.

Apologies if I am barking up the wrong tree and you were just emphasizing those codes.
Just to clarify ETP, I did use those codes like that but they are not the problem.

Case matters in Linux/Puppy BUT these boot codes are acted upon in a script, called init, that Barry wrote. It is how Barry's init interprets the codes that is important. I think it was around series 2 Puppy that these codes had to be in upper case but with the advent of Puppy 3 Barry added some code to convert the codes if they were in the wrong case. They can now be input in either lower case or upper case. I'm just a stick in the mud who persists with what what I have always used from day 1! If it aint broke - don't fix it!

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#336 Post by Colonel Panic »

I'm using the new beta now and I must say I'm impressed; it looks like it's shaping up to be a great release. Thanks and well done for your work so far.
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Slacko - beta [5.4]

#337 Post by Billtoo »

Running from live dvd on intel imac.

Report Video 1.4 - Fri 12 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.0 - Linux 3.2.30-4g i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 2400 XT
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: M74 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver used: fglrx

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT
Version 3.3.11653 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
24530 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4905.869 FPS
24945 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4988.933 FPS
24957 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4991.231 FPS

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 3095MB (277MB used)

Using a usb sound card.
Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

More setup to do yet but it's working great! :)

EDIT:Setup finished, still working great.
EDIT2:The built-in webcam works too.
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arecord display issue + ffmpeg not recognising copy decoder

#338 Post by mcewanw »

I like this distribution - it is looking good. A few issues though - the second affecting both pAVrecord and precord. The most important issue first, ffmpeg not recognising 'copy' codec:

1. The provided ffmpeg seems to be broken in that it does not seem to recognise the option -codec copy (the provided ffmpeg reports: unknown decoder 'copy'). pAVrecord http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81332 uses that option to mix audio and video streams without re-encoding. pAVrecord was developed on Slacko-5.3.3 where it all works fine. pAVrecord also works fine in the latest Puppy Precise 5.3.95.1 beta (for the encoders provided there - though the ffmpeg in Precise doesn't unfortunately have libfaac, libxvid, or libx264 enabled).

2. Using arecord to get a simple audio VU meter, isn't displaying correctly. Works in all other puppies including the latest Puppy Precise development. The code used for that simple VU meter in precord (and also in pavrecord):

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arecord -vvv /dev/null 2>/dev/null
3. Video container type ogv (recommended since 2007 as the extension name for container holding Theora encoded video + vorbis sound) isn't recognised by the default media player. A mime type issue I guess.
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#339 Post by 01micko »

Hello mcewanw
The provided ffmpeg seems to be broken in that it does not seem to recognise the option -codec copy
As far as I know, that is not a compile time option. It does seem however that in this version (0.11.1) that the developers have changed the behaviour. A quick search reveals many instances of your concern. You may need a work-around. ffmpeg -h doesn't even fit in a terminal window and has to be redirected to a file, over 1500 lines!
arecord -vvv /dev/null 2>/dev/null
We are shipping with alsa-1.0.26 and again, the developers have changed stuff. From the help:

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-v, --verbose           show PCM structure and setup (accumulative)
-V, --vumeter=TYPE      enable VU meter (TYPE: mono or stereo)
Video container type ogv (recommended since 2007 as the extension name for container holding Theora encoded video + vorbis sound) isn't recognised by the default media player. A mime type issue I guess.
Yes. I can fix that one. :)
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#340 Post by mcewanw »

01micko wrote:It does seem however that in this version (0.11.1) that the developers have changed the [ffmpeg] behaviour.
...
We are shipping with alsa-1.0.26 and again, the developers have changed stuff.
I'll look into that. The alsa change seems trivial.

I hope and presume the change with respect to ffmpeg decoder 'copy' is equally easy to address. I'm surprised that backwards compatibility hasn't been assured by the ffmpeg developers though since the copy option has long been used. Constant changes in usage makes ffmpeg a challenging customer!
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#341 Post by mcewanw »

@01micko:

The ffmpeg error turned out to be trivial. Newer ffmpegs require the copy options just before the output. I'll publish fixed pAVrecord later today.

Frustratingly, the alsa VU meter problem has not turned out to be quite so trivial, but I'm working on that and may settle to use the -VU option as a compromise (I prefer the output of the existing method).
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#342 Post by 01micko »

mcewanw wrote:The ffmpeg error turned out to be trivial. Newer ffmpegs require the copy options just before the output. I'll publish fixed pAVrecord later today.

Frustratingly, the alsa VU meter problem has not turned out to be quite so trivial, but I'm working on that and may settle to use the -VU option as a compromise (I prefer the output of the existing method).
Quite the opposite of your first thought! When you get it sorted I will test. At the moment the only alternative for webcam recording is guvcview, which I have compiled and does work but is large and requires large depends, gtk+3 and portaudio spring to mind (and a few others).

Thanks

EDIT:

What exactly is the problem with ogg video? I have a file for testing that has .ogv extension and it plays in gnome-mplayer, produced with ffmpeg-0.8.4.

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# file test3.ogv
test3.ogv: Ogg data, Theora video
IIRC, this was an issue in 533. Could you have been mistaken with versions?
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#343 Post by mcewanw »

Sorry, I was testing in various versions. You are correct, ogv files are opening fine in Slacko 5.4 beta - I just checked with the new pAVrecord I'm just building. I'll have to check later which version was giving the problem (assuming I wasn't imagining it...).
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#344 Post by 01micko »

Hello everybody,

I have just done a reasonable upload so it's time to test the repo.

YOU MUST copy the attached file to $HOME/.packages

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gunzip Packages-puppy-slacko-official.gz
cp -af Packages-puppy-slacko-official $HOME/.packages
You may find if you have just been installing packages you need to reboot to clear /tmp (or if you know what to delete from /tmp do it manually).

Some packages include scribus and python (many thanks to Jejy69 and a few other packages), umplayer patched, vlc, guvcview, inkscape and more.

Please report if dependencies fail to download.

DO NOT (as yet) attempt to update the Slacko repo from PPM, I am working on the solution as to not break compatibility with slacko-5.3.3 and earlier (mentioned a few times).

Some packages are the old 5.3.3 ones but they should work. Let me know if anything fails due to "symbol lookup error" or similar.

I haven't uploaded chromium or iron yet. Soon. I have to tweak packages as the next version will not include seamonkey-solibs, a dep of chromium based browsers. I also refuse to package with deps as this potentially breaks other stuff.

Have fun.. (also stay tuned for an updated beta, within 24hrs.. yeah we all know I'll be late!)
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#345 Post by sszindian »

mtpaint:

.jpg's seem to load OK direct from mtpaint but...

when you try to load a .jpg from 'from a file-folder' with the right-click and load with function you get...

>>>---Indian------>
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#346 Post by Jades »

01micko wrote:Netgear dongles are notorious for poor Linux support. It took many years for the kernel developers to get it right for the netgear-wg111-v2, which they eventually did. The symptoms were similar to what you say and the solution for stable connection was to reduce the rate of the thing from full speed to a fraction. I'm not sure what would be optimal for a, IEEE-802.11n dongle though as they ramped up the speed significantly. To change the rate:

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iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M fixed
..and if it works

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echo "iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M fixed" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
..and reboot, that will make it permanent.
IIRC, the last time I tried that it didn't make a difference, but I'll have another look. Hopefully I don't have to throttle the machine's network speed to barely faster than my Acorn A7000+ manages!
01micko wrote:Also, post your dmesg output, it may be firmware or similar.
I'll post dmesg in the next few days. Having sorted out a temporary replacement hard drive, I had a go on an old Slacko 5.3.3 save and noticed there was a carl9170 pet installed on it, but I can't remember why - there isn't one on any of my other Slacko 5.3.3 saves and the WN111v2 works perfectly on that.

Searching the forum, I seem to have reported a similar problem on the old Slacko 5.3.3.2 thread, in that case the dongle wasn't seen at all until I installed a pet you provided, which then had the same problems I'm seeing now. I wonder if that save with the pet on had been upgraded to 5.3.3.2 - I really should've kept notes. :oops:

As you say, it's probably kernel or firmware, Lupu tended to use an older kernel version than the versions of Slacko that I've used. In the meantime Slacko 5.3.3 will probably remain the main Puppy version on the Pentium D for the time being.
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#347 Post by 01micko »

Thanks Jades for the report.

I located our conversation, does the pet from this post make any difference? The firmware is there but where woof wants to put it, I can override that and put it where the pet puts it. It may be found faster.

Hmm.. it's actually a different blob.

The one in this iso:

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# md5sum *
30e2ae80c33b3008d271556d1a14e3ea  carl9170-1.fw
# stat *
  File: ‘carl9170-1.fw’
  Size: 13424     	Blocks: 27         IO Block: 1024   regular file
Device: ch/12d	Inode: 38189       Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2012-10-02 08:34:13.000000000 +1000
Modify: 2012-10-02 08:34:13.000000000 +1000
Change: 2012-10-02 08:34:13.000000000 +1000
 Birth: -
The one in the pet:

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# md5sum *
2fa6ed98d53d0b5fbcc136d1cf5e9609  carl9170-1.fw
# stat *
  File: ‘carl9170-1.fw’
  Size: 13388     	Blocks: 32         IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: ch/12d	Inode: 40236       Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2012-10-16 10:17:09.044589233 +1000
Modify: 2012-07-16 12:42:52.000000000 +1000
Change: 2012-10-16 10:17:09.044589233 +1000
 Birth: -
I don't know the origin of either! Except I found the one in the pet.
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#348 Post by Sage »

In a spare moment yesterday, I also gave the Cohiba/Netgear dongle another outing with rather strange results. I used the SNS and regular connection utilities as I've found this device unresponsive to Frisbee. There is no doubt about the prism054g module being in the kernel and detected - this always happens. Sometimes the dongle lights up, sometimes not. Yesterday being a day of multiple distractions, I didn't complete the connection utility with 'Quit' before answering the phone. When I returned, the connection l.e.d. had lit up. It had successfully scanned, found my station, used the SSSID and adopted my key. Everything was go. Except, it didn't! All the signs are that it's slow to scan, slow to sign on and only after everything appears to be working, it fails to collect, whilst appearing to be connected. Did you look at PCLOS yet, mick? The dongle behaves entirely normally with that distro; the utility Tex provides is absolutely excellent, too, but no idea whether its portable, oversized or in other ways incompatible? PCLOS used to be a Mandarke derivative, ie rpm/Fedora, but the extent of its automony and coding consequences are utterly LOSt on me - over to you.

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#349 Post by 01micko »

1 iso is uploaded and there are 2 more to go (plus support files, devx, src etc). It will be a few hours before it's all there but when it is I'll be stacking zzz's. I'll formalise the announcement in a bout 7 or 8 hours.
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#350 Post by Sage »

... iso is uploaded and there are 2 more...
Nice one, mick, and thanks. Apart from the inappropriate connotation one might wish you have some peaceful rest! Sleep well.

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