Slacko 5.4 - FINAL 2 Dec 2012

[01micko]

Booted pfix=nox,ram in an attempt to use the preferred "nouveau" driver as is usual in Slacko......total fail.X wouldn't start.Reverted to "nv" to post this.

I thought that might happen.. I still think nouveau is the way to go. But we devs have to kill a few guinea pigs in the name of "science"

libqtwebkit is missing for bibletime, and is not in any of the repos

Thanks for testing that. I am recompiling qt right now so it will get fixed.

libdbusmenu-qt ...

..is a pain in the a*se. It's only 140k compressed so I might include it. Jury's out on that one.

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Thanks for reports everyone, I'm a bit tight for time in the next week or so, but keep the reports rolling in, I'll get to them.

[peebee]

Broadcom wl wifi support for k3.4.14-PAE is now available from:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=20

[tlchost]

When running this command in Beta2, PAE version I run out of memory
on my system that that 16 gigs:

dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=usb-image.iso

In 533 PAE, the iso is created correctly.

Is there something I've overlooked/;should do a different way?

[rcrsn51]

I run out of memory

Do you mean RAM or save-file space?

[tlchost]

I run out of memory

Do you mean RAM or save-file space?

I noticed the problem when I attempted to create the iso with no save file, and slacko reported 8 gigs of memory. Should I try with a save file, and what size would be valid, since nothing has been added to slacko?

thanks

Thom

[rcrsn51]

Should I try with a save file, and what size would be valid, since nothing has been added to slacko?

How big is the partition /mnt/sdb1? You need to run the dd command somewhere with enough space to hold the image file.

[tlchost]

Should I try with a save file, and what size would be valid, since nothing has been added to slacko?

How big is the partition /mnt/sdb1? You need to run the dd command somewhere with enough space to hold the image file.

/mnt/sdb1 is 16 gigabytes .... 533 does not fail with the same sized drive.

Thom

[tlchost]

Rupp pointed oout that DD writes everything, including white space to the iso....so, with a 16 gig USB drive, you would run out of memory.

To test it, I used a 4 gig USB drive and things worked fine.

Sorry for being so dense....

Thom

[Billtoo]

Running from live dvd with savefile on Acer desktop pc.

Report Video 1.4 - Fri 19 Oct 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.6.5 - Linux 3.4.14-PAE i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nvidia

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 304.60
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
307 frames in 5.0 seconds = 61.237 FPS
304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.727 FPS
304 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.738 FPS

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8233MB (148MB used)

It's working well, there is a new nvidia driver out, also vlc 2.0.4 is
out.

[ejb]

When I add .desktop files for wine applications, the jwm menu entry for the app is not generated correctly. For example:

The command to execute the app is:

env WINEPREFIX= "/root/.wine" wine "c:\\PROG~FBU\\Bloobs\\Bloobs.exe"

When the jwm menu in regenerated, the following is created:

env WINEPREFIX= "/root/.wine" wine "c:PROG-FBUBloobsBloobs.exe"

The three sets of double back slashes in .desktop file should have been
converted to single back slashes in the jwm menu.

I assume this is a problem with fixmenus. This worked in slacko 5.3.3.

Thanks

[tlchost]

Berta boot manager recognizes sfs files created by dir2fs if made in Beta2

[drblock2]

So much that is so good.

I installed the version with FF and 3.2.31.4 kernel. It booted to nv. This is an excellent solution as explained in the release notes. nv is very slow on my Athlon 2GHz, 2GB RAM. Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 machine - glxgears registers 36 fps, but I have a usable desktop.

I was also able to use my save file from slacko 5.3.3.2. X would not start initially because the nvidia driver was compiled with the 3.2.22 kernel, but I was able to gracefully revert to nv.

The nvidia 71.86.15 driver, which delivers spectacular performance with my system, would not compile, but the newest 173.14.35 (recommended) driver installed easily and registered ca. 3000 fps on glxgears.

FF worked with Flash, but was unacceptably slow. My stand alone Opera 12.02 was up to speed.

The major problem arose with VirtualBox. I was able to update the kernel, but attempts to start the un-operating system (Windows XP - as you may have guessed) hung. I tried a number of variants - installation with new save file, update to the newest version of VirtualBox 4.2.22 with the same negative result.

For me, this is a show stopper, because I need VBox for WordPerfect. A more general concern would be problems posed by continually updating the kernel. Applications that are compiled against the kernel need to be recompiled - a minor annoyance when it works, a major problem when it doesn't. I am also concerned that, at some point, our friends in the open-source and the commercial (e.g., nvidia, oracle) communities will throw in the towel and simply tell us: "When you have figured out where you want the goal posts, we will figure out how to kick a goal."

Perhaps a practical solution would be to offer a "safe kernel" and an experimental kernel. In any case, I will try out the 3.4.14 kernel and report back.

[01micko]

drblock2

Thanks for reports.

I haven't time to go back and make a "safe" kernel just for virtual-box. I have reports that it is failing. I believe it's an Oracle bug. But they probably don't care as it probably works ok on Oracle-Linux which, being a server os would ship with an older kernel, like Red Hat etc. Eventually they will fix it.

I will be bumping kernel versions once more. That is why I haven't compiled any drivers as yet.

[mfilmore]

Greetings,

I have 3.3.6.5 running OK on a Toshiba Satellite laptop. 3.3.6.0 ran fine on my ol' HP Mini, but 5.3.6.5 does not show LibreOffice. I re-downloaded the .sfs file, but loading and unloading the sfs has no apparent effect. No menu items, nothing in /opt.

The devx sfs is loaded. And everything else I have tried seems to be working as expected. I can mount the libre office sfs via ROX and look at the files. But they do not show up in the file system.

Here are my setup notes:
=====================
-> shutdown [create save file]
+ Fonts: liberation; gentium
+ Mozilla firefox
- Opera
rm -i `which opera`
++ Flash; flash-blocker
++ ixquick
++ preferred bookmarks
++ settings [forget cookies, et cetera]
+ Sylpheed email
+ Settings Control >>
Manager> App Defaults [Firefox; Sylpheed]
Hardware> Touchpad: Scrolling Off
Clock: Synch & set display format
+ Get Cursors -> .icons [Comic Cursors]
++ set cursor
-> shutdown [save file synch]
+ devx_slacko sfs
+ LibreOffice sfs
+ Pharo Smalltalk
+ Build SW
mg [minimalist emacish terminal editor]
chibi-scheme
dnscrypt-proxy
+ Setup dnscrypt+OpenDNS [/etc/rc.d /rc.network & /rc.local]
=====================

What should I look at?

-Mike

[Billtoo]

Here's a small game that I don't see in the slackware repos, it's a
tetris clone and a little addictive.

It should work in all recent slacko betas.

[James C]

Still seems to be working well......

[Sage]

I will be bumping kernel versions once more.

Think long and hard, mick! Change one, break many?!

As for PAE, don't listen to the siren voices, mick. My guess is that the 99% of the planet still using the devil's OS probably have XP, (or even W98?) running on A700-A2200+ and PIII- P4(478) judging by the junk gifts still being offered and requests for F.I.A.T. (fix-it-again-tony for those not living in the USA). These are the target audience for Linux conversion. The cash-rich few can fix their own kit!

[tlchost]

As for PAE, don't listen to the siren voices, mick.

Glad that there is a PAE version...would be a real shame not to have one and penalize folks who have newer equipment.

[Sage]

Glad that there is a PAE version

Consider it a bonus if there is one. That was not the point I was making. No law against PAE - be my guest. Regulars like you are probably entirely capable of transcribing one for yourself without skewing the field or creating the wrong impression about Mr&Mrs Average.

[01micko]

Well.. we have both .. pae and non-pae so that we avoid these discussions . It's actually very little trouble maintaining both. Less than I thought anyway. And as far as bumping vers goes, I'm following LTS with both so it makes sense to bump .

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In more important news I have fixed the full install bug. Posting from a freshly booted (never been rebooted) full now.

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As for virtualbox, I think it's an aufs (layered fs) bug. I'm about to try it in the full now. Compiled successfully but crashes every time in a frugal.