Slacko 5.4 - FINAL 2 Dec 2012
Slacko - RC1 [5.4]
Manual frugal install to hard drive.
I installed the proprietary nvidia driver and configured it to use two
monitors.
Report Video 1.4-Sun 18 Nov 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.7.7 -Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporationGF108 GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver used: vesa
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.19
Direct Rendering Yes
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8233MB (303MB used)
JWM doesn't seem work with this setup so I compiled fluxbox 1.3.2 and it
does work with two monitors, it's going to take some time to setup the
menus but it should work okay, for now I'm using the "run" command on
the fluxbox menu a lot
Report-video still has the vesa bug.
I installed the proprietary nvidia driver and configured it to use two
monitors.
Report Video 1.4-Sun 18 Nov 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.7.7 -Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporationGF108 GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver used: vesa
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.19
Direct Rendering Yes
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8233MB (303MB used)
JWM doesn't seem work with this setup so I compiled fluxbox 1.3.2 and it
does work with two monitors, it's going to take some time to setup the
menus but it should work okay, for now I'm using the "run" command on
the fluxbox menu a lot
Report-video still has the vesa bug.
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Slacko - RC1 [5.4]
Hi 01micko,
There are some errors relating to JWM in === /tmp/xerrs.log ===
A rogue line in .jwmrc-tray is one of the causes:
There are some errors relating to JWM in === /tmp/xerrs.log ===
A rogue line in .jwmrc-tray is one of the causes:
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<TrayButton popup="Popup text" icon="Path to Icon">exec:Name of Executable</TrayButton>
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Re: Slacko - RC1 [5.4]
Thanks, fixed.ETP wrote:Code: Select all
<TrayButton popup="Popup text" icon="Path to Icon">exec:Name of Executable</TrayButton>
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There are 2 far more serious bugs, both in PPM and both woof.. while Barry is busy prettying up upu/dpup slacko has taken a knock for the worse.
- clicking a pet fails to run fixmenus
- installing something that requires deps from the slacko repo also searches and installs old packages from the old slacko-5.3x repo
The pet below fixes issues 1and 2 and also fixes deps for google-chrome. I have also reuploaded bibletime, it was a bad compile.
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Hi Mick,
RC1 is certainly snappier
However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182).
I do not know if this is a Slackware package problem or a Slacko issue. I do know that Precise and Ubuntu udev-175 do not have this problem (or Slacko 5.3.x and slackware udev-165).
On another matter, the 3-level deep menus are really user unfriendly as users should not only guess the category but the sub-category to find what they want. The fact that some apps are placed in not "evident" subcategories makes things worse. jwm_menu_create is certainly snappier than fixmenus but it may need some rework on the "3-level deep" part...
RC1 is certainly snappier
However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182).
I do not know if this is a Slackware package problem or a Slacko issue. I do know that Precise and Ubuntu udev-175 do not have this problem (or Slacko 5.3.x and slackware udev-165).
On another matter, the 3-level deep menus are really user unfriendly as users should not only guess the category but the sub-category to find what they want. The fact that some apps are placed in not "evident" subcategories makes things worse. jwm_menu_create is certainly snappier than fixmenus but it may need some rework on the "3-level deep" part...
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udev is a mess. I'll leave it at that, except that anything after 175 is no good for puppy. Fedora uses kmod.. no? Any idea how they are getting sound? You could try compiling module-init-tools for XO builds, would most likely work.mavrothal wrote:However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182).
You can configure that if you want ..SUBMENU="" in ~/.jwm/JWMRC (and /etc/JWMRC if distro building). However, I strongly disagree with 1 big column of stuff, it looks awful and is slow to navigate. Tiers are staying.mavrothal wrote:On another matter, the 3-level deep menus are really user unfriendly as users should not only guess the category but the sub-category to find what they want. The fact that some apps are placed in not "evident" subcategories makes things worse. jwm_menu_create is certainly snappier than fixmenus but it may need some rework on the "3-level deep" part...
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You may want to put a block/warning to avoid "accidents"01micko wrote:udev is a mess. I'll leave it at that, except that anything after 175 is no good for puppy.mavrothal wrote:However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182).
From what I see all they do is to run "alcactl restore" at a later time and NOT at module load time01micko wrote:Fedora uses kmod.. no? Any idea how they are getting sound?
Is your baby01micko wrote:You can configure that if you want ..SUBMENU="" in ~/.jwm/JWMRC (and /etc/JWMRC if distro building). However, I strongly disagree with 1 big column of stuff, it looks awful and is slow to navigate. Tiers are staying.
SUBMENU="" will do for me
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Hi 01micko, mavrothal et al,
I use Htop and I rarely use anything else from the System menu.
So, as appropriate, I like simplicity and speed of choice and use.
My regards
I use Htop and I rarely use anything else from the System menu.
So, as appropriate, I like simplicity and speed of choice and use.
My regards
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Re: Slacko - RC1 [5.4]
That would explain the situation here. The installer reports it as "Category: none" and doesn't run fixmenus.01micko wrote:clicking a pet fails to run fixmenus
But running fixmenus manually adds it.
Slacko - RC1 [5.4]
Clean full install to ext4 partition using PAE version
Everything i have tried works otb.
Very fast.
Thanks for your hard work and dedication to Puppy.
Everything i have tried works otb.
Very fast.
Thanks for your hard work and dedication to Puppy.
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Hello !
While, in 5.3.7.0/1 I experienced quite a few lock-ups - everything freezing, no Ctrl-Alt-F*/Ctrl-Alt-BkSp (nor Ctrl-Brk/C ...) possible - , in 5.3.7.7 I have seen none of this, as yet .
Looking good, so far / MHHP
While, in 5.3.7.0/1 I experienced quite a few lock-ups - everything freezing, no Ctrl-Alt-F*/Ctrl-Alt-BkSp (nor Ctrl-Brk/C ...) possible - , in 5.3.7.7 I have seen none of this, as yet .
Looking good, so far / MHHP
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Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
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Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
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RC1
01micko,
Please see this post: (same issue in 5.3.7.7 - screeny is a good example)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 602#665602
Also in the following did you intend two entries for defaultbrowser or one for the browser & one for defaultemail?
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="111">exec:screeny</Key>
Please see this post: (same issue in 5.3.7.7 - screeny is a good example)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 602#665602
Also in the following did you intend two entries for defaultbrowser or one for the browser & one for defaultemail?
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="111">exec:screeny</Key>
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Test Slacko rc1
Updated wizard for multiple soundcards works as expected. No trouble at all.
The new video wizard gave me full HD resolution. Great stuff - but wow... 53Mb to download.... There are humans (cooperations) out there that is not known to the Puppy way of doing things. On the other hand, the Puppy way of setting up a Xorg Wizard is only useful to those familiar with the nerdy Linux terminology....
Tried Gimp 2.8.2 for the first time. - Looking forward to replace 2.6.x. I checked the repo and it contains much of the goodies, but lacks a car simulator game. I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting
All there is to say is that this looks really good. And it feels snappier than 5.3.3.
There are some bugs coming up in Pmusic, so please give a note if you miss the latest version.... And I guess you have your reasons for not using the gtkdialog-splash with borders.
Thanks a lot for Slacko
Sigmund
Updated wizard for multiple soundcards works as expected. No trouble at all.
The new video wizard gave me full HD resolution. Great stuff - but wow... 53Mb to download.... There are humans (cooperations) out there that is not known to the Puppy way of doing things. On the other hand, the Puppy way of setting up a Xorg Wizard is only useful to those familiar with the nerdy Linux terminology....
Tried Gimp 2.8.2 for the first time. - Looking forward to replace 2.6.x. I checked the repo and it contains much of the goodies, but lacks a car simulator game. I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting
All there is to say is that this looks really good. And it feels snappier than 5.3.3.
There are some bugs coming up in Pmusic, so please give a note if you miss the latest version.... And I guess you have your reasons for not using the gtkdialog-splash with borders.
Thanks a lot for Slacko
Sigmund
zigbert wrote:Test Slacko rc1
Updated wizard for multiple soundcards works as expected. No trouble at all.
I can slim it by about 1M by trimming docs and dev but I could not see the point. The bloat comes from the fact that the config GUI requires QT libraries, ati/amd include their own.. I don't know why they couldn't use gtk or even xlib. As for Xorg Wizard, yeah, not the most noob friendly, but hopefully only a few noobs ever get to see it.zigbert wrote: The new video wizard gave me full HD resolution. Great stuff - but wow... 53Mb to download.... There are humans (cooperations) out there that is not known to the Puppy way of doing things. On the other hand, the Puppy way of setting up a Xorg Wizard is only useful to those familiar with the nerdy Linux terminology....
The sfs-manager is new and is a bit empty. Part of the reason is ibiblio still has trouble. Trying to upload stuff is a pain. That said, I didn't test 'torcs', but can and will.zigbert wrote: Tried Gimp 2.8.2 for the first time. - Looking forward to replace 2.6.x. I checked the repo and it contains much of the goodies, but lacks a car simulator game. I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting
There is a bug with that if you choose the "-fg" argument.zigbert wrote: ... And I guess you have your reasons for not using the gtkdialog-splash with borders.
Thanks for report.
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Puppy needs SeaMonkey so I made a pet of 2.13.2........ awesome persona not included.
Does seem smoother than Firefox on this old Athlon XP box.
Does seem smoother than Firefox on this old Athlon XP box.
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Torcs has only just released a new stable version .. so I compiled it, easy actually apart from some small bugs in the make process. The sfs is massive though.. 291MB .. a bit big maybe to upload to the main repo, especially since I upload something about 50M it constantly breaks ..zigbert wrote:I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting
I can still put it in the sfs manager but as a special case where it only downloads from smokey01's repo. Seems to work fine but I really need to test a bit more before I commit it..
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Uploading .. if you want it you'll find it ..(will be in sfs manager in final)
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Testing 5.3.7.7 on Pentium D machine. Usual LiveCD setup.
Saving to NTFS still has the problem previously reported with missing icons and forgotten config & pets on the first boot of the new save file. The only seeming difference from a pfix=ram boot is that it pops up the SFS loader. The workaround listed in the release notes worked.
I have a feeling that the WN111v2 wireless is still flaky but will test more and report back.
Opera 12.11 was just released today!
Saving to NTFS still has the problem previously reported with missing icons and forgotten config & pets on the first boot of the new save file. The only seeming difference from a pfix=ram boot is that it pops up the SFS loader. The workaround listed in the release notes worked.
I have a feeling that the WN111v2 wireless is still flaky but will test more and report back.
Opera 12.11 was just released today!
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Just rebooted, this is the second boot from the new save, and everything appears to be fine - all settings, pets etc remembered.
Zhaan - AMD K6 2 500, 512MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 VR. Full install Wary 5.5 [url=http://tinyurl.com/dy66kh8]HardInfo Report[/url]
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Merlin - Core i5-4590, 8GB RAM, Radeon R9 270X. Slacko 5.7.0
Puppy needs SeaMonkey so I made a pet of 2.13.2
+1@01Micko
Could next Slacko Repo reflect this?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
I believe 01micko is recommending installing browsers from the Slackware repo but that being said.......
http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/seamonkey-2.13.2.pet
Built using the standard package direct from Mozilla.I've only tested on Lucid and Slacko RC.
http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/seamonkey-2.13.2.pet
Built using the standard package direct from Mozilla.I've only tested on Lucid and Slacko RC.