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No sound from internet (You tube etc) SOLVED

Posted: Sun 30 Sep 2012, 08:25
by titus
Hello All,
Slacko 5.3.3 - magic, everything works, even glabels! Great sounds from music files etc BUT, nothing from internet connection. Absolute silence irrespective of browser (Iron or Seamonkey) tried all the sound cards using ALSA wizard to no avail (no barks either) Mplayer blasting out Roy Buchanan as I write. Am I missing something?
All suggestions gratefully acknowledged as ever.

Posted: Sun 30 Sep 2012, 17:25
by darkcity
According to this thread installing Java helps-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51701

what does the command aplay -l return?

Posted: Sun 30 Sep 2012, 18:44
by titus
Thanks darkcity,
I have JRE installed already, if that is what is meant.
aplay -l should be attached.

Posted: Mon 01 Oct 2012, 14:02
by darkcity
This is a strange problem.

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What is the 'Audio output' setting in MPlayer

Edit > Preferences

If it says 'default', try switching it to 'ALSA', close the window. Try playing a track, do you still get sound?

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What is the soundcard setting in retrovol?, go to

Left-click on speaker > Config Window > Hardware

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What are the contents of these files?
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
and
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf

Posted: Mon 01 Oct 2012, 17:42
by titus
Thank you darkcity, I appreciate the time you're devoting to my problem.
When I set the default to ALSA I get no sound.
Retrovol shows the sound card as hw:0
alsa.conf and alsa-base.conf are attached.

Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 14:06
by darkcity
Okay, its starting to make sense. ALSA isnt set correctly. Normally, the browser, and M Player would use ALSA, but M PLayer must be using the soundcard directly. Will need to think about it. Will again post later. :arrow:

Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 15:45
by npierce
Have you tried this?

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amixer sget PCM
If you see [0%] (or some other small percentage), try this:

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amixer sset PCM 75%
The solution is probably not going to be that simple, but this is worth a try if you've not tried it already.

Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 19:00
by titus
Thanks npierce,
You were correct in assuming that it wasn't going to be that simple, the setting was already 74% but I appreciate your input.
The only positive aspect of this problem is that unlike my usual posts, it's actually baffling someone else, so I don't look so dim.

Posted: Tue 02 Oct 2012, 19:42
by npierce
Ah, too bad. Well, we'll hope that darkcity will find a better idea.

Posted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 08:50
by titus
Here's a thing,
I put the disc in and ran Slacko live. In a live situation setting MPlayer to ALSA works fine and Youtube music plays as I would expect. This is on the same PC as I have Slacko installed (from the same ISO disc).
Weird?

Posted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 12:17
by darkcity
Okay, this now sounds familiar. On some sound systems using alsa-wizard, which uses alsaconf, actually breaks the sound system, and it is hard to restore.

which version of Slacko are you using?

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You can try to figure what alsaconf has broken.

Try this if your using a frugal installtion-

Using the live cd go to your normal pup savefile (which is called something like slackosave-name.2fs). If you click on it will mount in its own directory - the files present are any ones which have been altered or added from the basesfs (puppy_slacko_5.3.1.sfs).

Look at the previously mentioned files in /etc/modprobe.d - you can either manually edit the differences or delete to revert back to their basesfs state.

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Alternatively, start another save and configure how you like, but don't press alsa-wizard!

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BTW the way what does the command lsmod | grep snd return when running live?

Posted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 13:33
by titus
Thank you yet again darkcity.
I'll have to look at your latest advice later on, got my hands full at the moment.
I'm using a full install of Slacko 5.3.3 High Memory which I imagine uses 4G of my 8G available RAM. The processor is an AMD FX-4100.

lsmod | grep snd return, live disc attached.

Posted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 18:33
by titus
I tried your suggestion darkcity.
I removed the two files from /etc/modprobe.d and re-booted the installed version. MPlayer showed ALSA in preferences but didn't play, nor did the internet. I'm wondering if a complete re-install would be the answer. I hope not.
Your continued help is much appreciated.

Posted: Wed 03 Oct 2012, 20:34
by darkcity
What I think I need to do is properly examine what alsaconf is doing. I won't have time over the next few days though.

Another file it might be worth deleting your standard pupsave (while using live slacko) is /etc/asound.conf

Posted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 06:07
by titus
Darkcity, you are a star!
That last idea (delete /etc/asound.conf) worked. The system is, at present, working correctly, I am indebted to you.
I hope that one day I may be able to offer help on this forum, I always seem to be the one with his hand out.

Posted: Thu 04 Oct 2012, 11:05
by darkcity
Great! I've learned stuff helping you, so we have both benefited.

If you edit, your first post's title to [solved] No sound from internet (You tube etc) it helps :twisted:

Titus is not alone.

Posted: Fri 05 Oct 2012, 15:22
by Pelo
Delete etc/ asound, i reboot, and then all is working ?
My slackos work well, but the idea perhaps is valuable on other dumb puppies (old ones with new computers, even with alsa driver 10.1.24)
I shall try And inform you.
Have a nice week-end.

Re: Titus is not alone.

Posted: Sat 06 Oct 2012, 16:14
by darkcity
Pelo wrote:Delete etc/ asound, i reboot, and then all is working ?
My slackos work well, but the idea perhaps is valuable on other dumb puppies (old ones with new computers, even with alsa driver 10.1.24)
I shall try And inform you.
Have a nice week-end.
In this case Puppy was frugally installed and the sound worked. But alsa-wizard was run - which broke the sound on this particular system.

The solution was to do a 'live' boot, then mount the pupsave file used for the frugal installation. Then delete /etc/modprode.d/alas.conf, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and /etc/asound.conf. Then reboot into frugal installation. This in effect reverts those file back to the state before alsa-wizard broke altered them.

To reiterate, the solution will only work if sound works straight away without alsa-wizard. Also the files should only be deleted when the usual pupsave isn't in use.

@Pelo - have you got a specific sound problem on a computer?