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OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 20:59    Post subject:  

Hello Geoffrey,

Excellent work, cheers for posting those. Certainly the idea of loading the glibc upgrade within the environment for the application is much better than installing it into the entire system. I haven't seen it done that way before (with the ld-linux.so.2) so always happy to learn new methods. It certainly does all work in Wary and Racy for me as you have packaged it.

I was having a bit of a play around with it though. I added a libxml2.so.2 compiled from source to /usr/lib/slimboat/libs which gets rid of the "no version information" whinges in console.

In fact there is no need to duplicate the libnssutil3.so in /usr/lib/slimboat/libs so long as slimboat can find the one in the seamonkey folder. There is a cluster of 7 libs in that folder which browsers need in order to find FlashPlayer. Wary and Racy have 6 of those 7 libs symlinked into /usr/lib but that one symlink for that lib is missing. This does not matter though because /etc/profile has been written to place /usr/lib/seamonkey into the LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

So long as Slimboat can find the entire LD_LIBRARY_PATH it can find all those libs and load FlashPlayer. I removed that libnssutil3.so and edited the 2 lines in the slimboat.sh into 1 line which sets up the library path so that all needed libraries can be found. I believe that list of library paths is in order of preference from left to right. I guess you could just list all the needed paths as opposed to using $LD_LIBRARY_PATH on the end. FlashPlayer still loads and works anyway.

I am wondering if the /etc and /usr sub-folders (and contents) in the glibc2113 folder can be removed. I suspect they may be surplus to requirements and would not be found in that location anyway. I think only the libs in the /lib sub-folder are needed. As a test I removed the other sub-folders and it all still appears to work just the same.

I am just learning by experimenting here so let me know if you reckon any of my thinking is flawed.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Dec 2013, 22:44    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Hello Geoffrey,

Excellent work, cheers for posting those. Certainly the idea of loading the glibc upgrade within the environment for the application is much better than installing it into the entire system. I haven't seen it done that way before (with the ld-linux.so.2) so always happy to learn new methods. It certainly does all work in Wary and Racy for me as you have packaged it.

I was having a bit of a play around with it though. I added a libxml2.so.2 compiled from source to /usr/lib/slimboat/libs which gets rid of the "no version information" whinges in console.

In fact there is no need to duplicate the libnssutil3.so in /usr/lib/slimboat/libs so long as slimboat can find the one in the seamonkey folder. There is a cluster of 7 libs in that folder which browsers need in order to find FlashPlayer. Wary and Racy have 6 of those 7 libs symlinked into /usr/lib but that one symlink for that lib is missing. This does not matter though because /etc/profile has been written to place /usr/lib/seamonkey into the LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

So long as Slimboat can find the entire LD_LIBRARY_PATH it can find all those libs and load FlashPlayer. I removed that libnssutil3.so and edited the 2 lines in the slimboat.sh into 1 line which sets up the library path so that all needed libraries can be found. I believe that list of library paths is in order of preference from left to right. I guess you could just list all the needed paths as opposed to using $LD_LIBRARY_PATH on the end. FlashPlayer still loads and works anyway.

I am wondering if the /etc and /usr sub-folders (and contents) in the glibc2113 folder can be removed. I suspect they may be surplus to requirements and would not be found in that location anyway. I think only the libs in the /lib sub-folder are needed. As a test I removed the other sub-folders and it all still appears to work just the same.

I am just learning by experimenting here so let me know if you reckon any of my thinking is flawed.


Hi OscarTalks,

Most of that which I did was the work of ac2011 that started HERE, when it was first tried the glibc files were extracted from the deb to a tmp directory and that was loaded, I just thought it would be better combined with Slimboat in a single package, I think it's better this way so as not to pollute the system,

I guess your right, I wondered the same thing about the extra files whether or not they were needed, but I just left it as is, it worked ok in Carolina, I only found that the flash player didn't work in Wary.

It would be good to sort it out and optimize it by removing superfluous files, I'm sure that you are a lot better than I in working out the paths and files needed, rg66 asked me the other day if the same thing could be done with Chrome browser, I'm guessing there maybe a lot more to that though, but it's worth looking at, but I don't think I would be the best person to investigate the possibility due to my lack of knowledge, it does overwhelm me sometimes.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Feb 2014, 07:56    Post subject:  

Version 1.1.45 is out.
This fixes the YouTube video downloader button which went missing.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Feb 2014, 23:55    Post subject:  

The YOUTUBE video download button is NOT present on my v1.1.45.

My distro is Slacko 5.6.5.6. Built-in has FF ESR which works without any issues. And has Flash subsystem installed from its Menu>Internet>GETFLASH Install ...

And, on webpages some items dont work. For example:
  • drag a URL link from a webpage window to the tab bar; results in drag arrow showing not allowed. To open a tab one must manually right-click and select ...tab to have a tab to open to the new URL
  • On YouTube page, I cannot type in search window. Corrected: Restart of desktop cause this problem to disappear.
  • Clicking on a YouTube URL does NOT run the video.To name a few. Corrected: Restart of desktop cause this problem to disappear.
Please advise

Edited: added "corrected" info after desktop restart

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Feb 2014, 07:38    Post subject:  

Confirmed the downloader button has gone again. I think this is changes made by YouTube to the website, not sure if it is intended to block downloaders.

The opening of links in a new tab may be the option in the preferences. You can try ticking it but I unset it because it was causing crashes on some websites if activated.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Feb 2014, 17:46    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
... because it was causing crashes on some websites if activated.
I have had crashes from other uses of SlimBoat, like you suggest.

Dunno.

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Feb 2014, 00:31    Post subject: Slimboat 1.1.44
Subject description: Good browser (not better than FFox Seamonkey)
 

Slimboat 1.1.44 no problem untill now. running in Precise 5.7.1. I take a glance at users info here above.
You tube ok after 6.6MB flasplayer Installed.
I will translate yr remarks for frenchies who do'nt understand English. There are some Smile
See you later
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Feb 2014, 01:56    Post subject: Re: Slimboat 1.1.44
Subject description: Good browser (not better than FFox Seamonkey)
 

Pelo wrote:
Slimboat 1.1.44 no problem untill now. running in Precise 5.7.1. I take a glance at users info here above.
You tube ok after 6.6MB flasplayer Installed.
I will translate yr remarks for frenchies who do'nt understand English. There are some Smile
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@Pelo, does your browser window have the "Download Video" button circled in red in the picture below?

I also noticed that you have version 1.1.44 vs OscarTalks version reference of 1.1.45. Is that true?

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Feb 2014, 18:48    Post subject:  

Version 1.1.46 has been released.
This fixes the YouTube video download button (again).

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

I have also uploaded a version for recent Wary or Racy Puppies (tested in 5.5) but please note this contains the glibc hack so do NOT use it if you have already done a glibc upgrade of your system (the standard SlimBoat should work for you in this case).

EDIT:-
Version 1.1.48 now.
This moves the YouTube video download button to a different position, below the video window and on the left.

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2014, 06:27    Post subject: ah, perhaps Slimboat missing something.
Subject description: The browser is not a problem with Puppy.
 

I don't use Slimboat each day, but quite often. It runs well excepted, perhaps, as far as i am concerned, uploading files. Not sure.
Nevertheless, it's a fine browser. Last version : ok, in my box (21MB only, nice !)
The browser is not a problem with Puppy. Software availability is much more important, in my opinion. Soon Puppy will become a Cloud distro. You tube makes better work in editing videos than our cinelerra openshot and so on.
Happily, we have the old Avidemux.
Quote :
"please note this contains the glibc hack so do NOT use it if you have already done a glibc upgrade of your system (the standard SlimBoat should work for you in this case)". Hum, it's over my Linux knowledge. I am a poor lonesome Lambda. Pls clarify ... Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2014, 10:09    Post subject:  

Pelo wrote:
Pls clarify


That note is only for people installing SlimBoat in Wary or Racy.
If Wary or Racy users have done a glibc upgrade they will know about it.
If so they should use the standard SlimBoat package rather than the Wary one.

Most Wary or Racy users will need to use the Wary SlimBoat package.
It contains its own "private, internal" glibc upgrade.

Standard SlimBoat will run in most recent Puppies including Lucid and Exprimo.

SlimBoat is lighter and faster than the big browsers such as SeaMonkey, Firefox and Chromium, but you should always have one of those browsers standing by for use on those rare occasions when you come across a task that SlimBoat won't perform.

EDIT:-
April 15th 2014
Version 1.1.49 uploaded
Download from:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

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PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014, 13:34    Post subject: No icon 'download' Slimboat  

No icon 'download' Slimboat, but it's not important for me. Slimboat is a Good browser, and i shall do my possible to get it famous.
Nevertheless, Firefox, seamonkey and Chrome have been used by millions of people. No doubt they are good browsers too.
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jun 2014, 05:31    Post subject:  

Version 1.1.50

Change log from previous version only shows:-

-- Update Turkish language file.
-- Fixed bug in form filler.

....but they have released it, so I have adapted and repacked it for Puppy and uploaded it to:-

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks

Special version for Wary or Racy is also there. Users who have already upgraded their glibc in Wary or Racy should use the standard version.

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