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#16 Post by RSH »

ASRI éducation wrote:@ RSH
For three weeks, I test your utility.
PADS is really convenient.
Thank you very much!
Cordialement,
Thank you very much.

Though, be careful when using the Rox right-click-option of PaDS for big files.

A few days ago I did create a SFS Module of Octave3.2_3.2.4-12 from Ubuntu Repository.

It has downloaded 287 .deb files with a size in complete of 306 MB and PaDS has build a SFS Module sized 320 MB (from those 287 .deb files, assembled in a directory).

To build such huge SFS Modules by right-click-action at least 2 GB of RAM is recommended, since it will be build in RAM and currently there is no Option to choose a partition when using the right-click option of PaDS.

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#17 Post by RSH »

Hi.

Version 1.0.4 uploaded.

Link is in the first post.

Now it creates also SFS Modules for Slacko from .pet and .txz files.

GUI and right-click option.

Though I've tested in in Precise, test results from Slacko will be Welcome.

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#18 Post by oui »

Hi Rainer

It seems so that PaDS doesn't be able to build the SFS for the Xombrero.pet

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 59&t=86060

why?

(the xombrero.pet works!)


Next question: have you somewhat analog with PaDS for *.tar.bz2 / *.tar.gz (those containing a binary package)?


Can we consider that the goal is an universal *.sfs usable in both normal puplets and lazyed puplets? Is the prefix LP2 useful?


And last question:

What ist to do to preserve the existence of SARA-B in a remastered version of puplet using your remaster suite *.pet (different from LazY, it seems that after remasteuring once the puplet will not be recognize as "Next Start" and the Setting and Greetings little windows opens :x ...)

Regards

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#19 Post by RSH »

Hallo oui.
It seems so that PaDS doesn't be able to build the SFS for the Xombrero.pet
I have tested PaDS 1.0.4.

At 1st I've tested the installed version in L.A.S.S.I.E. which works and did successfully create the SFS Module from the xombrero-1.4.0.pet.

At the 2nd test I downloaded PaDS 1.0.4 and installed it into a fresh booted Precise Puppy 571 which created also successfully the SFS Module from the xombrero-1.4.0.pet.

Both tests in L.A.S.S.I.E. and Precise 571 were done once by the GUI (which is still the GUI from pets2sfsgui) and once by right-click-action (put the xombrero-1.4.0.pet into a directory for this and right-clicked this directory).

See attached image (just don't know what's going wrong when you tried this)

However, Xombrero didn't work in L.A.S.S.I.E. and it didn't work in Precise 571 (tested from SFS Module and from installed version). It is complaining a missing libicui18n.so.48 which might be just a symbolic link - don't know this. The Package Manager could not find this lib - maybe the Package Manager needs to be updated again.
Next question: have you somewhat analog with PaDS for *.tar.bz2 / *.tar.gz (those containing a binary package)?
No, currently not. But I can add this to the ToDo list for the next PaDS update.
Can we consider that the goal is an universal *.sfs usable in both normal puplets and lazyed puplets? Is the prefix LP2 useful?
It doesn't matter if the LP2_ prefix is used in the file name of the SFS or if it is not used. A LP2_xxx.sfs made for L.A.S.S.I.E. should work generally in Precise 571.

What does matter indeed, is: if you are adding the LP2_ prefix manually to the name of an SFS Module, you NEED to convert it to SFS P.L.U.S. format before using it to create a SARA-RSD Application with SARA-B and/or to create a SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript.

If you are creating a SFS Module directly by right-clicking a .pet package in LazY Puppy and/or L.A.S.S.I.E., the LP2_ prefix will be added automatically, because this function creates automatically a SFS Module already converted to SFS P.L.U.S. format.
What ist to do to preserve the existence of SARA-B in a remastered version of puplet using your remaster suite *.pet)
You are referring to the LazY-Remaster-1.2.6.pet?

Just do NOT copy SARA-B into the Puppy's filesystem. Use it from a ext partition (sda1, sdc3 or whatever is a ext partition).

In L.A.S.S.I.E. just remove it from /usr/local/apps before remastering.
(different from LazY, it seems that after remasteuring once the puplet will not be recognize as "Next Start" and the Setting and Greetings little windows opens :x ...)
You are referring to the LazY-Remaster-1.2.6.pet?
Which Puppy did you try to remaster with this?

While doing these tests I found another small issue in SARA-B, which I will post in the SARA-B thread.
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#20 Post by gcmartin »

Hello @RSH

Couple of Questions
  • Is this utility capable of combining multiple SFSs in to single SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
  • Or for some reason, is this restricted to PETs-DEBs into a SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
Curious

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#21 Post by RSH »

gcmartin wrote:Hello @RSH

Couple of Questions
  • Is this utility capable of combining multiple SFSs in to single SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
  • Or for some reason, is this restricted to PETs-DEBs into a SFS for SARA B planting into the desktop?
Curious
Hi, gcmartin.

PaDS and SARA-B are totally different and them are totally independent applications. You can use PaDS without SARA-B and revert.

I think oui justed posted this all into the PaDS thread because he is using SARA-B to run Applications directly from its SFS and creating the SFS Modules just using PaDS - though they can be build manually as well as they can be build with the SFS Combiner made by smokey01 (sorry, no link atm).

Currently PaDS can only handle .pet, .deb and .txz files to extract them and combine them into a single SFS. But -at least in theory- it should be expandable to handle all file types that can be extracted in Puppy Linux.

Since I'm using some code to extract .pet, .deb, .tar.gz, .gz, .rpm, .sfs, .txz and .xz files directly into a directory of a extracted Puppy main SFS to build L.A.S.S.I.E.'s main SFS from this directory, I could add all those file types to be useable in PaDS as well.

Will add this to my ToDo list for a next update of PaDS.
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#22 Post by watchdog »

In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.

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#23 Post by RSH »

watchdog wrote:In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.
As far as I know, Slacko doesn't use the .deb package format, so maybe there is just the app to extract .deb packages missing.

I should have placed also a direct link to the .deb extraction package.

Now added also to the first post.

Thanks for testing it.

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#24 Post by watchdog »

RSH wrote:
watchdog wrote:In a live session of slacko PaDS fails to correctly create an sfs from debian packages and a pet. It seems only the pet is included. It correctly works in wary.
As far as I know, Slacko doesn't use the .deb package format, so maybe there is just the app to extract .deb packages missing.

I should have placed also a direct link to the .deb extraction package.

Now added also to the first post.

RSH
Now working in slacko with unrpm.pet installed. Sometimes debian packages work in slacko, too. Thanks.

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Working with multiple debs

#25 Post by mikeslr »

Hi All,

Just in case there are others who, like myself, can't read or forgot the instructions Lazy Puppy provided here, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 908#689908 the way to handle any number of debs (or other packages) is to place them in an otherwise empty folder, browse until you see that folder, right-click it and select Combine to SFS from the drop-down menu.

Or warn someone if you right-click the folder and hold your breath waiting for "PaDS" to show up on the drop-down menu. :evil:

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#26 Post by LazY Puppy »

to place them in an otherwise empty folder
I'm not sure about it in 1.0.4, but it should work also if one puts just symbolic links into such folder. My current version 1.0.8 actually can do this.

Regarding to your PM and the issue that right-click option is set/locked to / to build the SFS, was already mentioned here.

Yes, this could be a problem when using small save files.

Though, since PaDS is creating SFS Modules, one can use PaDS to create a PaDS SFS out of the PaDS PET and using it in PUPMODE 5 (RAM only, no save file) to create the SFS Modules without to get in danger to mess up the save file - in case PaDS would have some still undiscovered errors/issues.

My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features (including multiple file selection in GUI now, plus a integrated Menu-Editor (.desktop files) appearing when creating a SFS, to add easily information for foreign languages, icon and wrapper script etc.pp.

I'm just waiting to be able to re-create my old E-Mail address to be able to send the password to it. Then I will be able to log on as RSH again and to update the first post after uploading the latest version of PaDS.

Don't know how long this old E-Mail address will continue to be locked by the provider...
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#27 Post by ASRI éducation »

LazY Puppy wrote:My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features
Good news!
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#28 Post by gcmartin »

ASRI éducation wrote:
LazY Puppy wrote:My current version 1.0.8 has a lot of new features
Good news!
Regards
PaDS may need to be updated on a new thread. @RSH has been missing for almost a year. This package does provide good need even though it is growing old.

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#29 Post by LazY Puppy »

gcmartin wrote:PaDS may need to be updated on a new thread. @RSH has been missing for almost a year. This package does provide good need even though it is growing old.
LazY Puppy, RSH, R-S-H wrote:I'm just waiting to be able to re-create my old E-Mail address to be able to send the password to it. Then I will be able to log on as RSH again and to update the first post after uploading the latest version of PaDS.

Don't know how long this old E-Mail address will continue to be locked by the provider...
If I can't re-create my old E-Mail address by end of may 2015, I may decide to open a new topic for this. Probably a good Idea for a 2nd reason, since I've renamed it to X-PaDS/PaDs, where X-PaDS is the GUI part and PaDS remains as the right-click option.

Version 1.0.8 is now able to create SFS Modules from PET, DEB, SFS, TAR.GZ, TXZ and TAZPKG. Also it can handle the i386-linux-gnu directory from 32bit multi arch distros as well as the x86_64-linux-gnu directory from 64bit multi arch distros.

Also there is a list automatically saved, named after the SFS Module created, wherein all the file names are stored that have been used to create the SFS Module. So it could be rebuild later just by loading such a list - of course only, if the original packages are still existing at its original locations.

The X-PaDS GUI Program has some additions for combined/integrated work with my SFS P.L.U.S. 4.0.5-29 which I do plan to publish also.

There is also a new function included: collecting libraries from created SFS Modules.

This means to remove all the libraries from such SFS Modules and extracting those libraries into a separate SFS Module - so none of the libraries will be loaded doubled or tripled when using several SFS Modules at a time. Then just load the Library SFS Module first or turn it into a PET and install it

If the new SFS P.L.U.S. 4.0.5-29 is installed, this separate Library SFS Module will be marked to those SFS Modules (as a dependency) from where these libraries have been extracted. So, if a program from such SFS Module is executed by a SFS P.L.U.S. RunScript the Library SFS Module will be loaded automatically.

There are some more features like automated insert of program data into the .desktop files for foreign languages (to be edited afterwards in menu editor), automated renaming of .desktop files to have ability to keep menu entries for different versions of a program (like gimp in 2.6.11, 2.6.12, 2.7.1, 2.7.3 as is in my LazY Puppy), usable in full screen mode (window now re-sizable), saving its current geometry (opens up at last position/size next time) plus many more improvements that don't come to mind at the moment.

---

Uuuppss

While making screenshots I found its current version number is 1.4.6 - NOT 1.0.8 (must have been another program, I'm currently working on)
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#30 Post by LazY Puppy »

Hi.

Here you can find my latest edition of X-PaDS/PaDS.

It is included into my SFS P.L.U.S. package and it will stay for at least 90 days after its last download.

!!! Needs to uninstall the previous version of PaDS at first !!!
RSH

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PADS.1.0.4

#31 Post by KEubus »

Hello Rainer,

I like your mpdular sfs-concept of puppy a lot.
It remembers me of 'Mecano' and later on 'LEGO' toys-for-boys.
My old HP-MFC broke down and choose a brother MFC 7360N
My working Puppy was Playdayz's Lucid 511/528
and later on Rerwins's supersulu_x (all frugal installs).
My MFC didnot not -and as I read somewhere will not- work under Lucids.
So I had to go for another puppy capable of printing and scanning on my MFC.


rcrsn51's debbi-1.1.pet, the brother-drivers
and his instructions are working perfectly:
brscan4-0.4.2-1.i386.deb
mfc7360nlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.deb
cupswrapperMFC7360N-2.0.4-2.i386.deb
and sometimes libpoppler3_0.8.7-4_i386.deb


PADS104 by RSH
Then I remembered rsh's PADS putting DEBs in one single SFS
I tought it a nice solution for going to test several newer puppies:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81511
This is PaDS 1.0.4 ---> convert and merge (P)ET (a)nd (D)EB into a single (S)FS
but .........
PADS104 failed.
PADS104 created a sfs-file but the 3
the printer was detected, but no drivers, ergo no printing
the scanner was not at all detected, ergo no scanning


There were broken Links of brsane (2x) and models4 (a map).
(I'll try to upload the screendump)
Load on the fly did not give me a printed test testpage nor an simple xsane-scan.

Q: need these .deb-files an special treatment in order to get a worging sfs from PADS



dir2sfs by 01micko (?; I'm not sure)
On Barry's precise 5.7.1 I installed the brother-MFC as instructed by rcrsn51'
printing and scanning worked flawless.

Manually I copied the installed files into a mfcprintscan-dir
and ran dir2sfs
the mfcprintscan.sfs was created
I started shinobar's precise 5.7.1
and installed (sfs-load-on-the-fly) the fcprintscan.sfs
Visually everything looked as in Barry's precise (in dirs etc)
no broken links as in rsh PADS104
but ....
the printer was physically detected, but no drivers, ergo no printing
the scanner was not at all detected, ergo no scanning
Q1 & Q2:
What am I doing wrong?
or what is going wrong??

groetjes, greetings & Grüße
k.eubus
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#32 Post by LazY Puppy »

Hello KEubus.

Could you please post the links to all the files used, so I could download them and check what's going wrong with these files and PaDS.

Thanks

Note:

I don't have any Internet Access anymore, so I need to go to the Internet Cafe for that. Though, it could take some time.
RSH

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#33 Post by KEubus »

LazY Puppy wrote:Hello KEubus.

Could you please post the links to all the files used, so I could download them and check what's going wrong with these files and PaDS.

Thanks

Note:

I don't have any Internet Access anymore, so I need to go to the Internet Cafe for that. Though, it could take some time.


Hello Rainer,




these are the .DEB links I used to install the Brother MFC7360N

http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_lpr
http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_gpl

Scanner driver for brscan4 models
http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux ... d_scn.html
32bits
http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_lpr
http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_lpr

I did not use 64bits
http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_lpr
http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreemen ... nglish_lpr


brscan 32bit deb 0.4.2-1 62 KB 2013.Oct.2

brscan 64bit deb 0.4.2-1 73 KB 2013.Oct.29
scan-key-tool 32bit deb 0.2.4-1 44 KB 2013.Jul.09
scan-key-tool 64bit deb 0.2.4-1 50 KB 2013.Jul.09

In tahrpup and dpup I used to install the .DEB-files doubleclicking or rcrsn51 debbi.pet script; both methods worked perfect.

I just saw rcrsn51 updated his debbi.pet on 2015-06-06
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42533
debbi-1.2.pet
Description Updated 2015-06-06
Contains new debbi-pet-maker tool pet
Download
Filename debbi-1.2.pet
Filesize 970 Bytes
Downloaded 19 Time(s)
Download at: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=88239

nice you 'll going to have a look at PADS
I like this utility very much


greetings and Grüße
Keubus

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#34 Post by watchdog »

I also have a brother printer and I install the drivers with debbi by rcrsn51. The debbi's need is that it executes a post-install script in the deb file. You cannot install the deb driver by just clicking on it. I don't think that using PADS is a good choice to install the drivers of a brother printer.

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#35 Post by KEubus »

watchdog wrote:I also have a brother printer and I install the drivers with debbi by rcrsn51. The debbi's need is that it executes a post-install script in the deb file. You cannot install the deb driver by just clicking on it. I don't think that using PADS is a good choice to install the drivers of a brother printer.

Hi watchdog

brother MFC7360N is not supported by the Lucid / sulu kernel as I read somewhere

so I tried the brother*.deb files on a few puppies
tharpup, unicorn, precise571 and pemasu's raring3992
the MFC7360N (Pinting & scanning) worked in all of them
a) by doublecliking the .deb's
b) using rcrsn51 's debbi

making a sfs by rsh PADS did not succeed; rsh is now looking at this issue
One single SFS by using PADS seemed pretty convienient to me
on my search for a 'new puppy' serving my new hardware



greetings & Grüße
KEubus

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