(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Nice to boot first time with a working mouse.

BarryK wrote:

otropogo wrote:Ignoring bug reports because you dislike the poster simply undermines confidence in your work, as well as discouraging essential feedback.

Oh please!!!!

What nonsense.

This is one example of many that have contributed to my desire to withdraw from the "frontline" development.

You're behaving like a three year old, Barry. I spent a lot of time and effort to describe a very serious problem with Puppy 5.4, and you simply ignored my efforts and can't offer a coherent explanation. Where's the "nonsense"?

Do you really believe your selective responses are not noticed by forum readers, or that they don't discourage potential posters? Can you really think that such behaviour doesn't undermine confidence in potential Puppy adopters?

Stomping your feet and threatening to take your ball home in response to criticism is just making things worse.

otropogo wrote:Do you really believe your selective responses are not noticed by forum readers, or that they don't discourage potential posters? Can you really think that such behaviour doesn't undermine confidence in potential Puppy adopters?

otropogo,
please get discouraged and lose your confidence!

While doing that you may want to read this in case it helps

otropogo wrote:

BarryK wrote:

otropogo wrote:Ignoring bug reports because you dislike the poster simply undermines confidence in your work, as well as discouraging essential feedback.

Oh please!!!!

What nonsense.

This is one example of many that have contributed to my desire to withdraw from the "frontline" development.

You're behaving like a three year old, Barry. I spent a lot of time and effort to describe a very serious problem with Puppy 5.4, and you simply ignored my efforts and can't offer a coherent explanation. Where's the "nonsense"?

Do you really believe your selective responses are not noticed by forum readers, or that they don't discourage potential posters? Can you really think that such behaviour doesn't undermine confidence in potential Puppy adopters?

Stomping your feet and threatening to take your ball home in response to criticism is just making things worse.

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Good music also helps to relax when you dont like that someone say no.
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/39800 ... -flame-war

mavrothal wrote:otropogo,
please get discouraged and lose your confidence!

While doing that you may want to read this in case it helps

Lost cause. BTW if anyone has a real issue that o...o has already posted, you may want to go ahead and re-post it, since he has pissed off just about everyone who actually has the ability to fix issues to the point where we don't even read his posts. Sorry for the inconvenience.

For those who may be assisted by this RE video problem with nvidia dual display with optimus on puppy precise 5.4.1. I have just been able to boot into vesa mode from live cd using F3/F3 with parameter puppy acpi=off ..... It turns out nomodeset was not necessary. However once on the desktop, the video wizard probe tells me 1920*1080 is available but hangs on the test. Bumblebee may hold the answer to using full resolution graphics.
Cheers.

Barry, not a big matter, but the download link http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.0.90/ in the
'Precise Puppy 5.4.1beta1' release message dated 6 Nov 2012, on top of your blog, reports '404 - not found'.

tallboy

Edit:

This post is placed in the incorrect thread, a copy is posted in the Precise Puppy 5.4.1 thread. BTW, how do you delete a post?

tallboy

I was able to get working correctly by booting on another machine, commenting out the /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf /modeset=1 line. Did a save then booted on to amd machine with nomodeset option install the amd-fglrx-pet. rebooted without the nomodeset option and now everything works.

mavrothal wrote:..

otropogo,
please get discouraged and lose your confidence!

While doing that you may want to read this in case it helps

If you'd been around here a few years back, you'd know that I'm not talking about myself. You might also remember when Puppy prided itself on being easy for newbies to use...

And why would anyone search the WEB to figure out how something that previously worked in Puppy is broken in the latest version, when the programmer who did the major work on both is supposedly waiting eagerly for such problem reports?

Believe it or not, I don't get any joy out of spending hours rebooting my system, making notes about all of the unintelligible error messages and nonsensical results, and then typing them up.

MY time is no less valuable to me than yours or Barry's. So yeah, when my effort gets kicked to the curb without explanation or apology, followed by vague insults, I'm put out. Any sensible person would be.

But note that I initially voiced my disappointment politely, whereas the response was vitriolic.

What happened after that is unfortunate but understandable. I have no wish to antagonize anyone, but I'm not about to respond to a totally unwarranted verbal lashing by kissing butt.

I installed precise puppy 5.4 to HD on older laptop.
Was running lucid puppy no issues.
I then rebooted and installed or tried to install gimp 2.6 via the package manger...

It tells me i have missing dependencies.
I tell it examine and then let it start loading.Says it found 19 dependencies.

I have tried two different sources and get the same results.
Now it installs about 5-6 packages or so then i get a pop up filled with squares instead of text. each button is also filled with squares instead of text.

No way to know how to exit, closing dialogs produces the same effect.
Now i assumed it was a missing package and clicked the cancel button on each popup (or that location).
The install finishes but we still have no text for 95% of the windows. even the system popups are borked.
Rebooting makes every Icon an !. and the text under each into a square.
Every attempt to load a program produces a popup with square rather than text.
This distro is now non functional until you blow away the install and re do it.
Also cannot screenshot issue as all programs have no text in them at all and do not know the screens well enough to take a shot from button placement.

Think i will be moving back to either lucid or looking for another distro entirely.

MikeDAdams wrote:I installed precise puppy 5.4 to HD on older laptop.
Was running lucid puppy no issues.
I then rebooted and installed or tried to install gimp 2.6 via the package manger...

...
This distro is now non functional until you blow away the install and re do it.
Also cannot screenshot issue as all programs have no text in them at all and do not know the screens well enough to take a shot from button placement.

Think i will be moving back to either lucid or looking for another distro entirely.

I've been fairly happy with the latest version of lupuplus myself, but maybe that's because I brought my 2sf files from 4.3.x along.

I'd suggest you give Lazypup a try before abandoning Puppy altogether.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=420

(get the English build #3, with the md5sum ending in "626" - the first page of the thread is a bit confusing as to the latest version - click on the download link on the page linked above)

But if you decide to jump ship, do try Knoppix 7.0.4 LiveDVD. I have it installed to an 8GB microSD card (leaving 4GB of space available for installing and configuring additional apps), from which it loads in under a minute, and find it to be the most trouble-free live distro ever. And I'm told it is easily installable to hard drive.

It installed to USB without a hitch using its internal flash installer, boots and loads interchangeably on my two aging desktops and my three or four year old laptop, and autoinstalls and configures the latter's Realtek wifi modem (which has proven impossible even with ndiswrapper and the Windows 7 drivers under lupu_528). And there is a choice of packet management apps that work with the deb repositories (not always successfully, but never disastrously, in my limited experience).

The Knoppix English forum, although nowhere near as busy as the puppy forums, is quite helpful and generally polite, and Klaus Knopper himself is quite approachable and not overly prickly.

MikeDAdams,

Precise 5.4 is buggy.
The latest version is Precise 5.4.1
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.1/

Issues with Gimp in Precise
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00005

akash_rawal wrote: Posted: Tue 06 Nov 2012, 14:36
Finished downloading precise 5.4. Testing it reveals several problems.

On first boot it refused to save the session. After asking for save file name it rebooted without saving session. Next time I ran wmreboot in terminal but this time it worked properly. Will try again to reproduce the problem.
...

I had a similar experience on an older computer. On repeat, just before shutdown finished, a message blinked by, and I became suspicious. I discovered a hidden process apparently searching for a place to save the session file.
This reminded me of the sagacity of a UI design gem discovered by Disney while designing Mickey Mouse cartoons - without a progress indicator (or other fair warning) you may assume nothing's happening/happened, and move on ...

I stumbled across this issue whilst working on a re-master of 5.4.1 but have found that it exists in every pup I
have tried including Slacko 5.3.3. The re-master is devoid of desktop & taskbar icons and working key-masks and
key keycode entries are mission critical.
The problem is that they ALL cease to function when the window or windows are minimised to the taskbar.
It is easily reproducable as follows and may be a Woof or JWM issue.

A typical mask would be
<Key mask="CS" key="c">exec:PupControl</Key> ------ CTRL+SHIFT+C
or in Slacko:
<Key keycode="111">exec:mtpaintsnapshot.sh</Key> --- Print Screen key

To Reproduce / Does binding work?
1. Boot to desktop YES
2. Launch say pfind YES
3. Minimise pfind NO
4. Exit pfind NO
5. Restart JWM NO
6. Restart X YES
Sometimes restoring the window re-enables the mappings.

In most of my pups I routinely deploy mappings for my multimedia keys and had on occasion pressed a button to no
avail. I had incorrectly attributed this to dodgy buttons but always had an icon to click on instead so it had not been
a big issue.
Perhaps there is a workaround using Xbindkeys or Xmodmap?

Typical usage for xbindkeys and easy to create with xbindkeys-config gui tool.

Cheers.

Hi rerwin

Thanks for the work on Frisbee.

Regarding, Frisbee 3, I can confirm it works with RTL8188S WLAN Adapter (on Precise 5.4.1) - after all PETs are installed.

peebee has also being working on Frisbee so it might be worth coordinating the improvements see-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 070#666070

I've updated the wiki page http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Frisbee

It might be worth starting a new thread (if this hasn't been done already).

Hi !
Cannot burn Video dvd with Pburn 3.7.8

Shinobar reported same issue earlier ...
Seems problem with DvDauthor version as Shinobar stated .

backi,

Barry released a service pack that should fix that. See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 938#666938

Hello npierce !

Thanks
Followed your advice !
Installed service pack ..but did not help .
Still unable to burn Video DVDs with Pburn 3.7.8 .