Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2

[watchdog]

Problems with loading savefile light-encrypted ext2: no backdrop-image, the same error of slacko 5.3.1. I tried the same console command:

gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache

but I lost all the installations. Is it recoverable?

Solved with new save file ext2 light-encrypted with no backdrop-image problem. I think that in the first installation something went wrong with the installation of the package z_mesa-8.0.3-up.pet. I renounced to install that package and all went well.

[artsown]

Follow up to my posts concerning the black screen issue using PAE
5.4 Precise. I did fresh hd frugals of retro 5.4 to my other two P4 PCs
and did ten hard reboots each. No black screens at all! So that's over
15 startups on my first test PC and 20 on the other two PCs for a
total so far of over 35 hard reboots without any black screens.

Haven't yet had time to evaluate retro any further but on the surface
it seems at least as fast if not faster than PAE version on my
machines.

Art

[rerwin]

Although I appear to be duplicating contributions by peebee and pemasu, my goal is to eventually integrate the benefits of the Frisbee package into the mainstream puppies. My initial steps are to:

• - update the b43 firmware package to include the "k3.x+" versions while retaining unduplicated older files. In doing that, many of the older files are now upgraded to the later versions. When wary 5.4 is released, we will need to try that package with it to verify the newer versions cause no issues.
  
  - upgrade dhcpcd to an adaption of jemimah's enhanced version that is the last before ipv6 support gets added to dhcpcd (in 5.5). Because it is more recent than precise's version 5.15, it may improve the network-connection experience. The enhancement adds the option to delay closing the connection when the signal is weak, to reduce actual disconnections. So far, I have not found where that option is used, but assume Frisbee does somewhere.
  EDIT: Now I get it! Thanks, pemasu. The new option is "-j dropwait-in-seconds"
  
  - create a wl driver package ready for inclusion in the pet-package library.

The really "interesting" challenge will be to adapt Frisbee to use common puppy services and set itself up only when selected by the user (instead of at installation time). I expect to experiment with frisbee by posting in the Frisbee thread, so as to avoid hijacking this thread. I hope some of you will work with me to get that working, by testing the experiments.

For now, please try the attached packages without Frisbee, to see if there is any wireless improvement or impact. The "wl" package is the result of my installing Peebee's multi-kernel package and extracting the module, to be consistent with other module packages.
Richard

UPDATE 10/28/2012: Compiled dhcpcd from annotated version of jemimah's "dropwait" source code. Because it is what I expect to submit for woof, please use it instead of the original. But there is no need to replace the original except to verify the recompiled package.

[pemasu]

The enhancement adds the option to delay closing the connection when the signal is weak, to reduce actual disconnections. So far, I have not found where that option is used, but assume Frisbee does somewhere.

/usr/local/Frisbee/func:

Code: Select all

function set-drop-timeout {
set -x

	Xdialog --title "Frisbee" --ok-label "Set"  --inputbox  "If the connection drops, how many seconds should we wait before deconfiguring the wireless interface? \n Increase this time for flaky connections.  Decrease it if you have trouble roaming between networks." 0 0 $WTIMEOUT > /tmp/entry 2>&1
	NEWTIMEOUT=`cat /tmp/entry`
	rm /tmp/entry
	if [[ "$NEWTIMEOUT" -gt 0 && "$NEWTIMEOUT" -lt 120 ]] ; then
		WTIMEOUT=$NEWTIMEOUT
		cat /usr/local/Frisbee/config | sed "s/WTIMEOUT=.*\$/WTIMEOUT=$WTIMEOUT/" >  /tmp/config
		mv /tmp/config  /usr/local/Frisbee
		reset-dhcp
	fi
}

export -f set-drop-timeout 

In Frisbee gui, click the Wireless Diagnostics tab, and you see the option in the bottom row.

[vicmz]

The PDF problem discussed here is still present. Or do other users not see it? As a work-around, install the attached version from Slacko. It also reverts the libpoppler library. Please provide feedback.

It works, colours are displayed properly.

BTW, copying and pasting from epdfview is still impossible . The evince .pets I found on the forum won't work, and downloading evince from Ubuntu repos is a nightmare for my slow connection because of all the dependencies listed. I'm using old English-only foxit reader 1.1 while I find another PDF viewer .pet (or learn to compile it myself).

[Ray MK]

PDF problem seen and confirmed - will try fix and report back

[rcrsn51]

BTW, copying and pasting from epdfview is still impossible

It works, sort of.

1. Choose Edit > Select text.

2. Drag your mouse over some text to hilight it. It will un-hilight when you release.

3. Use a middle-click to paste the text in elsewhere.

[vicmz]

BTW, copying and pasting from epdfview is still impossible

It works, sort of.

1. Choose Edit > Select text.

2. Drag your mouse over some text to hilight it. It will un-hilight when you release.

3. Use a middle-click to paste the text in elsewhere.

I suppose I'm a bit clumsy with less known software. Thank you rcrsn51.

[broomdodger]

IBM ThinkPad x30 (has PAE)
cpu 1200MHz, ram 768MB, harddrive 30GB
+ Precise5400retro
+ manual frugal
+ devx_retroprecise_5.4.sfs

Boots EVERY time after a SHUTDOWN.

FAILS to boot EVERY time after a RESTART,
black screen, need to hard powerdown.

ALL other wary and racy work either restart or shutdown.

compiled and working great,
precise5400retro, wary5300, racy5300:
+ sylpheed-3.3.0beta2
+ bbe-0.2.2
+ bvi-1.3.2
+ dstat-0.7.s
+ Gforth 0.7.0
+ hexdiff-0.5.5
+ iftop-10.pre2
+ md5deep-4.3
+ memtester-4.2.2
+ p7zip_9.20.1
+ smartmontools-5.43
+ SwiftForth i386-Linux 3.4.5
+ vim-7.3.712
+ cmus-2.4.2-w-20111002.pet

Most used apps:
vim, sylpheed, gnumeric, seamonkey, cmus

I write compilers for multi-core embedded processors,
design and maintain databases.

Hardinfo 'Generate Report' ONLY Devices/Processor checked,
an EMPTY report was generated, no data, only html template.

Grabbed this info using 'Copy to Clipboard'
" -------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6----
Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU - M 1200MHz
6, 11, 4 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron)

cmov Conditional Move instruction
cx8 CMPXCHG8 instruction
de Debug Extensions - I/O breakpoints
fpu Floating Point Unit
fxsr FXSAVE and FXRSTOR instructions
mca Machine Check Architecture
mce Machine Check Architeture
mmx MMX technology
msr Model Specific Registers
mtrr Memory Type Range Registers
pae Physical Address Extensions
pge Page Global Enable
pse Page Size Extensions (4MB pages)
pse36 36bit Page Size Extensions
sep Fast System Call (SYSENTER/SYSEXIT)
sse SSE instructions
tsc Time Stamp Counter and RDTSC instruction
up smp kernel running on up
vme Virtual 86 Mode Extension

" -------1---------2---------3---------4---------5---------6----

[Keef]

I've promised myself not to mention that awful wallpaper.
Oops, what did I do there??
To be honest, the icon set does not look bad if the background is changed to the solid dark grey. Once you go into directories it starts looking a mess though.

Anyway...
Tried both PAE and no PAE versions.
Frugal install to HDD on a Compaq Armada M700
P3 850
576mb RAM
Sound detected on first boot.
Linksys PCMCIA wifi adapter up and running (b43 module)

There is a slight speed gain with the non-PAE, more so when booting.
My main concern though is that I have Opera-Next 12 running in its own directory on a partition (not in savefile). Been running this in several Pups for quite a while without problem.
On both these precise versions it is achingly slow, taking a minute to switch tabs for instance. It worked ok on the 5.3.95.1 release.
Posting from Opera right now, (but on Wary) so its definitely the OS. Seamonkey runs without problem.

[Ray MK]

Report Video 1.4 - Thu 26 Oct 2012 on Precise Puppy 5.4 - Linux 3.2.29 i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


Hi rcrsn51

Tried your fix for PDF viewer - and it works - many thanks.

Very best regards - Ray

JFYI - sys-info report if useful.

[drblock2]

I can confirm the problem with the epdf viewer. The test page appears in red rather than blue!

The attached pet in rcrsn51's post solves the problem.

[artsown]

For what it's worth in eventually fixing the 'mostly black screen at
bootup' problem, I happened to notice that if udev is disabled the
problem goes away.

To anyone interested, you find such system settings buried under
Menu - Setup - Wizard Wizard - Configure startup of Puppy -
Manage system services - Choose which to run at startup

Art

[Sage]

'mostly black screen at
bootup' problem

Unfortunately not fixed for these damn SiS chipsets!
The only way I can get a picture on them is booting with 'nox' then selecting VESA no greater than 800x600.
However, on other matters, retro is performing very well indeed, including running the dread Cohiba wifi dongle at first ask every time. FP loaded by default and finds discrete PCI sound card by default, too. DHCP on wired connection has to be loaded manually (SNS) on most HW. This version is certainly mature enough to allow BK to progress to his other tasks!

[algyzas]

Started 5.4 from USB, then while shutdowning it offered to save only into sdb1, USB stick, then I copied this save file from USB to HDD, now while starting precise cannot find this save file, precisesave.4fs, it is on D:\

[666philb]

i made a .pet of exaile audio player for precise puppy http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81743

[watchdog]

Started 5.4 from USB, then while shutdowning it offered to save only into sdb1, USB stick, then I copied this save file from USB to HDD, now while starting precise cannot find this save file, precisesave.4fs, it is on D:\

Try this: copy from the USB to D:/ also vmlinuz, initrd.gz and isolinux.cfg. Open with geany isolinux.cfg on D:/ and change pmedia=cd with pmedia=atahd. Then boot from USB with option:
boot: puppy pmedia=atahd

[666philb]

the PPM lists 'libpq5_9.1.6' as installed when it actually isn't

[rcrsn51]

Started 5.4 from USB, then while shutdowning it offered to save only into sdb1, USB stick, then I copied this save file from USB to HDD, now while starting precise cannot find this save file, precisesave.4fs, it is on D:\

Here is another way. Look on your USB drive for the file syslinux.cfg. Delete "pmedia=usbflash" from the end of the "append" line.

This will make Puppy look everywhere for its files and it should find the savefile on the hard drive.

[oldyeller]

retroprecise-5.4 NON PAE

Can anyone download from the puppy-precise repo?

All I get is the option from a folder.