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#151 Post by meeki »

Sorry Ive Been AFK for awhile guys. My last final is WED and im done with school for the rest of the month. I have some holoday plans but nothing more than 3 days.

The rest of the time I'll be focusing on:

LHPUP Record (minimizing the display and making pop-outs, making a Aspect ratio selection)

Games (Will work on making more pet / SFS games )

JAVA pets / SFS (have a few more I want to do, A new megasquirt and megalog viewer for sure)

Any requests I can complete.

Looking forward to WED :)

meeki

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#152 Post by Puppyt »

Hi meeki,
my final is on Thursday - hope you enjoy your extra day of freedom :) Good Luck with yours.
I should have been studying but I spotted this from scsijon - 'Builder wanted for grass - Geographic Information System Pet' http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82289. My wife would find it *very* useful - she's doing a course on holistic farm management which uses ideas based on Permaculture etc etc. Could you sort out a LightHouse 64-specific pet, please? I just downloaded the source tar.gz and install script, made them executable etc but I haven't the nous to get it going (hmmm I should be studying - desperately need to pass these exams)
Cheers :)
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#153 Post by meeki »

Barburo said:
Hey Meeki
Free geek started in Portland. Have you tried them as a source for inexpensive computer parts?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Geek

I'm lucky enough to have a "Free Geek" ethical computer recycler near me.
I used to volunteer for them and whenever I need a new box or a sound or graphics card, or any replacement part, new monitor etc. I just go by, and buy (really not expensive) and they've got lots to choose from. If it doesn't work or there's conflicts they credit you.

Second line of supply is thrift stores but it's strictly at your own risk, although some will credit you if stuff doesn't work.

Look for computer recyclers or similar in the phone book or on-line for your area.
Good Info. I called free geek and they only had some 8600's in for $28 bucks. Not a bid price but I was looking for 8800 minimum.

Called 2 recylers and they said only 1 9800 for 55USD and the other place said SOL but when they do get them they sell them fast for $30 so good deal if they had them.

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I kept my eye on craigs list and today when I was tired of working on one of my final papers I found a GeForce GTX 550 Ti 2GB DDR5 for 60USD :shock:
I called they guy and asked if he had it and he said yep and he has 3 calls on it and is leaving for work in 1hr and the other guys could not make it in time. I said be there in 20min. He gave me an address to a house so I was not too worried about it being a bad card sold to me in a parking lot where i could never find the guy again.

It was priced low for 2 reasons 1) it came with no box, no cables, nothing... just the card. 2) he had it for a few months and then got some brand new top of the line something and did not want it any more.

took it home and it works SCORE!!

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So the bad but turned good.

I now had 3 monitors and only 1 card with 2 DVI's and because of the drivers issue from 7000 cards and newer drivers I could not run the new card and one of the 7900 to power the other 2 work screens.

I called up one of my computer surplus sellers Ive been using for years and asked him what he had. (He told me that one of the 2GB ddr2 rams I traded him had a cap fall off and was bad so I said What can you give me for 2 7900 geforce cards to fix the ram prob and get me a second card that would play nice with the nvidia.

He had this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133211

A Nvidia Quadro NVS for my small pci express slot 1X. 256mb card and it works great in light house. It does 2 more monitors just fine.

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Well no time for gamming got to get back to school.

oh Puppyt I'll look into your pogram WED night. I took a look and it seems doable.

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#154 Post by Q5sys »

meeki wrote: He had this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133211

A Nvidia Quadro NVS for my small pci express slot 1X. 256mb card and it works great in light house. It does 2 more monitors just fine.
You've had luck bundling a quadro card with another nvidia card?

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#155 Post by meeki »

Q5sys:
You've had luck bundling a quadro card with another nvidia card?
Yep no issues ive seen now on all 3 screens.

Image

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Is this a solution for your 6 monitor issue ?
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#156 Post by Q5sys »

meeki wrote:Q5sys:
You've had luck bundling a quadro card with another nvidia card?
Yep no issues ive seen now on all 3 screens.

Image

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nifty... wonder if I can just add one of those to my current SLI 550ti setup to sqeeze out another 2 screens on my system. That would save me considerable money from buying a new GPU.

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#157 Post by meeki »

Id give it a go. Just for giggles I played some DVD video on them and some simple games and the quadro held up just fine for extra screens. if you have some extra pci one short slots this could do it.

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#158 Post by Q5sys »

meeki wrote:Id give it a go. Just for giggles I played some DVD video on them and some simple games and the quadro held up just fine for extra screens. if you have some extra pci one short slots this could do it.
I might want to just buy a Quadro 450 then and call it a day. I've got one more PCI-e x16 on my board. I dont do gaming so I dont need power... just display capabilities.
Or I could grab the 420 which uses a PCI-e x1 port

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#159 Post by Q5sys »

Q5sys wrote:
meeki wrote:Id give it a go. Just for giggles I played some DVD video on them and some simple games and the quadro held up just fine for extra screens. if you have some extra pci one short slots this could do it.
I might want to just buy a Quadro 450 then and call it a day. I've got one more PCI-e x16 on my board. I dont do gaming so I dont need power... just display capabilities.
Or I could grab the 420 which uses a PCI-e x1 port
I just got a NVS 290... we'll see how it goes.

I dont need 12 screens... but I am eyeing up this:
Image
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loaded lhp 5.15 F today

#160 Post by Pete22 »

Hello lighthouse friends,

Found a possible bug in the Xfce menu.
Totally reproducible by me.

Go to Settings.
Click on Background Settings
Desktop Backgrounds Settings comes up instead.

I opened PupControl and was able to start the program from there.

Anyone else see this?

Pete

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#161 Post by meeki »

Q5sys:
I dont need 12 screens... but I am eyeing up this:
looks like they make it in PCI E 1x too! and a 4 plug DVI

Image

Just a thought when you want 8 screens :)

I hate mint Cinimon, MATE; Unbuntu unity. I just found out they hate running nvidia multi X screen setup. Sure xander works but but unless you use twin view on the quadro card it runs at 80 to 90% of its GPU ram. Gerr!

I love Fatdog / LH64. A simple 'Desktop=:0.X (launcher command) &' and your set.
By unbuntu making things so fricking simple; they have stole simple commands from lower intermediate users. Unbuntu based distros are driving away their base coders. We have all left for other OS's.

Right now for my steam fix I'm booting into Unbuntu with a e17 desktop.

As soon as Lighthouse / Fatdog comes out with a Glibc 2.15 up i'll be back with a renewed compiling force.

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#162 Post by don570 »

pmirror is installed but it lacked mirdir which is the utility that
does the actual transferring.

I compiled it in fatdog 610 and it works in Lighthouse 64
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#163 Post by don570 »

I couldn't get my pet package of the Bash manual to
install correctly because you have some block
in effect.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 564#671564

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#164 Post by Q5sys »

Two KDE apps I have started using more. They probably rely on a ton of KDE libs but if you have the KDE sfs installed then you're good to go. These are extra apps for KDE that do not ship with KDE.

Yakuake
Yakuake is a drop-down terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology.

Official Site = http://extragear.kde.org/apps/yakuake/
Package = http://puppy-linux.org/q5sys/yakuake-2. ... 64-1sl.pet
MD5 = 6a37dca40a1f96f43a70e3107bd7a842


Krusader
Krusader is a twin-panel file manager, similar to Midnight Commander or Total Commander.

Official Site = http://extragear.kde.org/apps/krusader/
Package = http://puppy-linux.org/q5sys/krusader-2 ... 64-1sl.pet
MD5 = d43d93dc3220113d14a35c23f114adbb

If you have any issues let me know.

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#165 Post by Q5sys »

Im trying to build drivers for a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI card

and I have one slight problem...
in the make file, I have this entry where I'm getting an error.

MODPATH = /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ssound

however in /lib/modules/3.0.3/kernel/drivers there is no sound sub-dir
Where on earth are the kernel sound drivers in lhp?
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#166 Post by Q5sys »

Q5sys wrote:Im trying to build drivers for a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI card

and I have one slight problem...
in the make file, I have this entry where I'm getting an error.

MODPATH = /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ssound

however in /lib/modules/3.0.3/kernel/drivers there is no sound sub-dir
Where on earth are the kernel sound drivers in lhp?
sigh... sometimes command line betrays you. GUI lets you see all the folders at once, instead of just cd-ing into the directory you want

If anyone is wondering its under:
/lib/modules/3.0.3/kernel/sound

Any particular reason thats not in with the rest of the drivers?

Problem #2


Here is the make file:

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ctxfi-objs := xfi.o ctatc.o ctvmem.o ctpcm.o ctmixer.o ctresource.o ctsrc.o ctamixer.o ctdaio.o ctimap.o cthardware.o cthw20k2.o cthw20k1.o
        
obj-m += ctxfi.o

ifeq ($(DEBUG), y)
CFLAGS += -g -DDEBUG
endif

KERNELDIR 	?= /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build
PWD		:= $(shell pwd)

all:
	$(MAKE) -C $(KERNELDIR) M=$(PWD)

clean:
	rm -rf *.o *~ core .depend .*.cmd *.ko *.mod.c .tmp_versions

PHONY := install uninstall

MODDIR = $(PWD)
MODPATH	= /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ssound
MODULES = ctxfi.ko

install:
	@echo "Copy module files..."
	@rm -rf $(MODPATH)
	@mkdir $(MODPATH)
	@cd $(MODDIR)/; cp -f $(MODULES) $(MODPATH)/
	@echo "Update module dependency relationships..."
	@/sbin/depmod
	@/sbin/modprobe ctxfi

users := $(word 3, $(shell /sbin/lsmod | grep ^ctxfi | head -n 1))
uninstall:
	@if [ "$(users)" = "0" ]; then \
		echo "Unload ctxfi..."; \
		/sbin/modprobe -r ctxfi; \
	fi
	@echo "Remove module files..."
	@rm -rf $(MODPATH)
	@echo "Update module dependency relationships..."
	@/sbin/depmod

.PHONY: $(PHONY)
and here is my output....

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make -C /lib/modules/3.0.3/build M=/initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.0.3'
  LD      /initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/built-in.o
  CC [M]  /initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.o
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.c:14:26: fatal error: sound/driver.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make[2]: *** [/initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/initrd/mnt/dev_save/work/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.0.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

the package from creative is supposed to be everything you need. But apparently, I'm missing something on my local system I should have. Ideas?

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Creative X-Fi workaround

#167 Post by tazoc »

Hi Q5sys,
I googled sound/driver.h: No such file or directory and found this at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304627:
rosseto wrote:Re: Can't install X-Fi drivers in 9.10
I know that it's not the best solution.. but after a bunch of tries it worked for me =)
I simply removed the include directives of sound/driver.h present in xfi.c and ctac.h
After I comment the following statement in xfi.h
//card = snd_card_new(index[dev], id[dev], THIS_MODULE, 0);
(the function snd_card_new probably is called from sound/driver.h)
After that I successfully compiled and installed and after a reboot the sound was working fine good.
With the Devx loaded you will find the files noted above at /usr/src/linux-3.0.3/sound/pci/ctxfi/

Hope that helps,
TaZoC
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bash_advanced_guide-6.6 pet

#168 Post by tazoc »

don570 wrote:I couldn't get my pet package of the Bash manual to
install correctly because you have some block
in effect.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 564#671564
Hi don570,
Lighthouse moves /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc for consistency with Puppy's docs.

I've rebuilt your Pet and the .desktop files accordingly and now it works. This is a really nice Pet, thank you!

Regards,
TaZoC
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Re: Creative X-Fi workaround

#169 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:Hi Q5sys,
I googled sound/driver.h: No such file or directory and found this at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304627:
rosseto wrote:Re: Can't install X-Fi drivers in 9.10
I know that it's not the best solution.. but after a bunch of tries it worked for me =)
I simply removed the include directives of sound/driver.h present in xfi.c and ctac.h
After I comment the following statement in xfi.h
//card = snd_card_new(index[dev], id[dev], THIS_MODULE, 0);
(the function snd_card_new probably is called from sound/driver.h)
After that I successfully compiled and installed and after a reboot the sound was working fine good.
With the Devx loaded you will find the files noted above at /usr/src/linux-3.0.3/sound/pci/ctxfi/

Hope that helps,
TaZoC
I'll test various options... I dont think it makes any sense to intentionally remove stuff that creative obviously thought was a good idea. Maybe there is another work around. Thanks for the info... I'll see what I can manage.

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#170 Post by Q5sys »

Not that anyone was waiting to find out... but the Nvidia Quadro NVS 420 cards work fine in LHP with the Nvidia drivers.
Oddly enough they apparently overrule the NVS 290 card completely. Its still on my board but its not detected at all after I installed the NVS 420 card.
Image
Spans across all 4 screens with no problem.
My 2nd NVS 420 is in the mail currently, when it arrives I'll plug it in and see how the sytem works with two NVS 420s.

If anyone is currently in the market for GFX cards... I no longer need my old setup. So I'm selling my two ZOTAC AMP! GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB cards.
Here for specs
Here for pics: Pic 1, Pic 2 Pic 3
I ran these under LHP since it 4.43 I believe. I have not had any issue with them and they work fine with puppy.

See Sig for link.

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