You can also save to /tmp/ as spot. Benefit of that is that you dont have to worry about save file space if you are using a frugal install.rcrsn51 wrote:If you are downloading through your web browser, you are logged in as the unprivileged user spot. So the only place you can save is in spot's folder. After the download, you can move the file to its desired location.ally wrote:even when drives mounted not visible in file manager when trying to download or gives 'no access'
IIRC, when you create a save file, you are given the option to change this.
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Hello , I am a newbie and I just installed fatdog64 610 beta1. I liked it but I am having trouble installing skype on it. I am aware that 32 bit pet packages will not work. I found a skype sfs file for fatdog64 which I found on ibiblio. However, it seems that it does not work on this fatdog64 version or maybe I am not doing something right. I also noticed that if I try to load the skype sfs file using the sfs launcher, the sfs file cannot be chosen because it's unclickable.
Can you post the link to that skype you found? The sfs in ibiblio is old (skype version 2.x) and it is meant for Fatdog 500 but it still works in Fatdog 610 in certain conditions - I know because I use it. Notably it won't work if you use the graphical login manager.
If it can't be downloaded from sfsmanager, just download it manually from ibiblio or one of its mirrors. Then put it to the root of your save partition, and load it using System SFS Loader you find in the control panel.
Someone has contributed skype 4.x SFS for Fatdog, it is somewhere in the Fatdog 600 thread, but I haven't got the time to play with it yet.
Billtoo, my nvidia desktop isn't connected with two monitors so I can't test it there. But I have used zarfy (which is shown as "Display Properties" in Control Panel) with radeon open source driver and I can easily choose to either extend the screen, or show the same screen. You should give it a try
cheers!
If it can't be downloaded from sfsmanager, just download it manually from ibiblio or one of its mirrors. Then put it to the root of your save partition, and load it using System SFS Loader you find in the control panel.
Someone has contributed skype 4.x SFS for Fatdog, it is somewhere in the Fatdog 600 thread, but I haven't got the time to play with it yet.
Billtoo, my nvidia desktop isn't connected with two monitors so I can't test it there. But I have used zarfy (which is shown as "Display Properties" in Control Panel) with radeon open source driver and I can easily choose to either extend the screen, or show the same screen. You should give it a try
cheers!
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Here is the link http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/50 ... 2.0.35.sfs
I even tried getting skype 4.0 sfs from the lighthouse 64 site. Unfortunately, both of the sfs didn't worked. I moved the sfs files to mnt/home and get an error whenever trying to load the sfs files from the the launcher. It was like an error in mounting.
I even tried getting skype 4.0 sfs from the lighthouse 64 site. Unfortunately, both of the sfs didn't worked. I moved the sfs files to mnt/home and get an error whenever trying to load the sfs files from the the launcher. It was like an error in mounting.
Re: skype
Here is skype-4.0.0.8RIZARDOUZ7 wrote:Here is the link http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/50 ... 2.0.35.sfs
I even tried getting skype 4.0 sfs from the lighthouse 64 site. Unfortunately, both of the sfs didn't worked. I moved the sfs files to mnt/home and get an error whenever trying to load the sfs files from the the launcher. It was like an error in mounting.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... 8-fd64.pet
The main credit goes to meeki as he built version 4.0.0.7 for LightHousePup.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... .0.0.7.pet
Both work fine on FD64 600 601 610
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Thank you very much, it worked! Speakers, mic and webcam worked .smokey01 wrote:Here is skype-4.0.0.8RIZARDOUZ7 wrote:Here is the link http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/50 ... 2.0.35.sfs
I even tried getting skype 4.0 sfs from the lighthouse 64 site. Unfortunately, both of the sfs didn't worked. I moved the sfs files to mnt/home and get an error whenever trying to load the sfs files from the the launcher. It was like an error in mounting.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... 8-fd64.pet
The main credit goes to meeki as he built version 4.0.0.7 for LightHousePup.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog ... .0.0.7.pet
Both work fine on FD64 600 601 610
I have frugal install of Fatdog in /Fatdog directory of sad5 partition. I have the savefile in / of same partition. If I move the savefile to /Fatdog and change the boot parameters, it boots without savefile.
I don't want it in root '/' as I would like to test beta as well.
I have the following parm
I don't want it in root '/' as I would like to test beta as well.
I have the following parm
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savefile=ram:device:sda5:/Fatdog/fd64save.ext4
That's the right parameter. Add "showerr" and "pfix=nox" to see the error with savefile loading process. Also, what's sda5's partition type? Is it ntfs?spandey wrote:I have frugal install of Fatdog in /Fatdog directory of sad5 partition. I have the savefile in / of same partition. If I move the savefile to /Fatdog and change the boot parameters, it boots without savefile.
I don't want it in root '/' as I would like to test beta as well.
I have the following parmCode: Select all
savefile=ram:device:sda5:/Fatdog/fd64save.ext4
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What kind of device is sda - regular hard drive or a USB drive?spandey wrote:I have the following parmCode: Select all
savefile=ram:device:sda5:/Fatdog/fd64save.ext4
Didn't we have a similar discussion here?
Yes we had and it worked for USB Pendrive.Didn't we have a similar discussion here?
I had given Hardrive for RMA and got it back now. As long as the savefile is in root directory it works fine.
@jamesbond,
I tried showerr and Fatdog is searching for /fd64save file in all the partitions. May be someone can recreate and check?
I am booting Fatdog from Grub2 if that matters.
Yes Linux mint 13 is using Grub2. I did update grub changes. I looked at error message and there are bunch of them, like:
1. can't stat /lib
2. aufs/kernel-modules/lib missing
3. HDIO_SET_DMA failed
4. can't find savefile /fd64save.ext4 in partitions.....
For frugal install I just copied the contents of the ISO, to /Fatdog directory. Hope that's alright ?
1. can't stat /lib
2. aufs/kernel-modules/lib missing
3. HDIO_SET_DMA failed
4. can't find savefile /fd64save.ext4 in partitions.....
For frugal install I just copied the contents of the ISO, to /Fatdog directory. Hope that's alright ?
Just going thru Fatdog help documents and found something interesting under boot options:
savefile parameter has colon!!!Note 1: parameters are case sensitive. Most of them are in lower case, so if you specify them in upper case (capital letters), it won't work. Also remember that all parameters cannot include space or colon.
spandey you appear to have omitted the word "direct" eg:
Mine looks like this:
Yours should probably look like this:
Mine looks like this:
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kernel /fd610/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sda3:/fd610/fd64save.ext4
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kernel /fatdog/vmlinuz savefile=direct:device:sda5:/fatdog/fd64save.ext4
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kirk & jamesbond,
I have just made an sfs file of VirtualBox-4.2.4 but have been having trouble getting it to work with the fatdog sfs-loader. What I have discovered, and I do apologise it this has already been repeated somewhere else, the following:
When using the fatdog sfs loader it loads/mounts the sfs but VirtualBox or for that matter, wine, neither works. The reason being, some modules need to be loaded so a reboot or a modprobe of the modules is required.
This is not an ideal solution if running a live system.
I then tried shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly and it worked fine without a reboot as it obviously loads the required modules.
After I had installed shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly I notice it had clobbered the fatdog sfs loader because the desktop entries have the same name although the file names are different. It's easy enough to rename one so they can co-exist.
My questions are:
1. Will using shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly cause any problems with fatdog?
2. Is it possible to use a pinstall.sh in the fatdog sfs loader to load the required modules?
I will place the VirtualBox-4.2.4-fd64_600.sfs here:
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog64-600/
Regards
I have just made an sfs file of VirtualBox-4.2.4 but have been having trouble getting it to work with the fatdog sfs-loader. What I have discovered, and I do apologise it this has already been repeated somewhere else, the following:
When using the fatdog sfs loader it loads/mounts the sfs but VirtualBox or for that matter, wine, neither works. The reason being, some modules need to be loaded so a reboot or a modprobe of the modules is required.
This is not an ideal solution if running a live system.
I then tried shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly and it worked fine without a reboot as it obviously loads the required modules.
After I had installed shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly I notice it had clobbered the fatdog sfs loader because the desktop entries have the same name although the file names are different. It's easy enough to rename one so they can co-exist.
My questions are:
1. Will using shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly cause any problems with fatdog?
2. Is it possible to use a pinstall.sh in the fatdog sfs loader to load the required modules?
I will place the VirtualBox-4.2.4-fd64_600.sfs here:
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog64-600/
Regards
I didn't use grub2 myself and never tested that. But rcrsn51 uses grub2 and it shouldn't be problem.spandey wrote:Yes Linux mint 13 is using Grub2.
1,2,3 is all right, 4 is odd because it should be looking at /Fatdog/fd64save.ext4.I looked at error message and there are bunch of them, like:
1. can't stat /lib
2. aufs/kernel-modules/lib missing
3. HDIO_SET_DMA failed
4. can't find savefile /fd64save.ext4 in partitions.....
That is very all right, I do this all the time tooFor frugal install I just copied the contents of the ISO, to /Fatdog directory. Hope that's alright ?
Nah, this means that the savefile name or path should not contain a space or a colon. The colon in the savefile parameter itself is all right.spandey wrote:Just going thru Fatdog help documents and found something interesting under boot options:
savefile parameter has colon!!!Note 1: parameters are case sensitive. Most of them are in lower case, so if you specify them in upper case (capital letters), it won't work. Also remember that all parameters cannot include space or colon.
Try this: After you have finished booting, please type this in terminal: "cat /proc/cmdline" and tell me what you see. I'm expecting you to see the correct savefile parameters (with /Fatdog path), if you see anything different then it's your grub2 configuration that has problem.
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smokey01, spandey's line is all right. He doesn't use "direct" but he uses "ram" which means he is using the RAM layer (in other puppies, this is called PUPMODE=13).smokey01 wrote:spandey you appear to have omitted the word "direct" eg:
Yes, fatdog sfs loader just mounts the sfs. It doesn't do anything extra. This is a design decision - different SFS serves different purposes and may have different activation mechanisms; and the sfs loader doesn't try to guess what they are. You will to manually do what is required - e.g. "depmod" for extra modules, or "modprobe", or start-up services, or refresh menus, etc. (openbox menus btw is automatically updated, lxpanel isn't).smokey01 wrote:When using the fatdog sfs loader it loads/mounts the sfs but VirtualBox or for that matter, wine, neither works. The reason being, some modules need to be loaded so a reboot or a modprobe of the modules is required.
Yes, because shino's sfs has the smarts.I then tried shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly and it worked fine without a reboot as it obviously loads the required modules.
Yes because shino's loader was the default sfs loader for Fatdog 500, and even for early betas of 600.After I had installed shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly I notice it had clobbered the fatdog sfs loader because the desktop entries have the same name although the file names are different. It's easy enough to rename one so they can co-exist.
My questions are:
Yes, it probably will. Early in 600 beta we have Shino's SFS loader in the ISO, and we run into some obscure problems. Turns out that it was the interaction between shino's loader with Fatdog's layering system; we were forced to take it out.1. Will using shino's SFS-load-on-the-Fly cause any problems with fatdog?
Not at the moment, but I will consider that. Where is this pinstall.sh located? Is this supported by Shino's SFS loader too? We have to consider the effect when multiple SFS-es have pinstall.sh-es; we have to ensure that when one SFS is loaded, only its own pinstall.sh will be executed and not pinstall.sh from previously loaded SFS; thus the pinstall.sh must also be written carefully. Unlike pets, where the pinstall.sh is executed only once and then deleted (thus one pet's pinstall.sh is unlikely to affect other pets), this isn't true with SFS where its pinstall.sh will live forever.2. Is it possible to use a pinstall.sh in the fatdog sfs loader to load the required modules?
Thanks. I usually download Vbox and install it from the official website myself, but I do appreciate this isn't always possible for others (especially live session users).I will place the VirtualBox-4.2.4-fd64_600.sfs here:
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog64-600/
cheers!
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jamesbond further investigation has revealed a reboot after loading the sfs with the fatdog loader does not fix the problem, even with a savefile.
A modprobe of each of the 4 modules is required such as:
modprob vboxdrv
modprob vboxnetadp
modprob vboxnetflt
modprob vboxpci
Providing you have a savefile it will work on subsequent boots.
It still doesn't fix the live boot option.
A simple script would fix the problem but how would people know to run it. Maybe your fatdog sfs loader could look for the script, if found, run it.
Nothing is ever easy
A modprobe of each of the 4 modules is required such as:
modprob vboxdrv
modprob vboxnetadp
modprob vboxnetflt
modprob vboxpci
Providing you have a savefile it will work on subsequent boots.
It still doesn't fix the live boot option.
A simple script would fix the problem but how would people know to run it. Maybe your fatdog sfs loader could look for the script, if found, run it.
Nothing is ever easy
smokey01
You could put a wrapper script in the sfs called from the DOTdesktop file that checks if the modules are loaded, if not loads them then runs virtual box. Would overcome your problem I think.
You could put a wrapper script in the sfs called from the DOTdesktop file that checks if the modules are loaded, if not loads them then runs virtual box. Would overcome your problem I think.
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