Carolina 1.3 won't create file in USB NTFS file system

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Carolina 1.3 won't create file in USB NTFS file system

#1 Post by netfrog77 »

Hi all,

I really like the speed & features of Carolina 1.3, but for some reason it is not allowing me to create a new file in my external usb drive with NTFS file system. I can modify an existing file, but can't create a new one.
It does not matter whether I use the XFE file explorer, PCMan, or terminal with shell commands. I just get a 'permission denied' message. Of course, I am the standard Puppy 'root' user and permissions shown in XFE are 'rwx' for owner 'root'.

Can anyone suggest a solution?

Thanks,
Bob

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#2 Post by bigpup »

When you click on the desktop drive icon for the USB drive.
Does it open, in a file manager, showing the contents, with no error or warning messages?
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#3 Post by netfrog77 »

I have it set up for automatic mounting so it is ready to go.
I have not seen any error messages.
It is available for file viewing and I seem to be able to modify existing files, just not create new ones.

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#4 Post by Geoffrey »

I tested creating files and folders on a USB Flash and USB HDD, both with ntfs formats, it works ok for me using Thunar file manager.

All I can suggest is boot without the savefile and see if it works correctly for you, that should determine whether it's the drive or your savefile at fault.
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#5 Post by netfrog77 »

Thanks for your help.
I will experiment with using / not using the savefile & see what happens.
I will also change the auto-mount & mount it with the desktop icon to see what that does. It seems to me that it originally worked OK, but at some point just started acting this way; but I don't know what would have caused it.

I will post the results of my experimentation when I'm done.

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#6 Post by netfrog77 »

Changed from Auto Mount in Pmount to just using desktop icon.
Does solve the problem, but not as convenient.
Here is info from 'mount' command & permissions shown for usb drive folders:

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Mounted via Desktop icon:

/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/sdb1 type fuseblk (rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
User: root Group: root Permissions: drwxrwxrwx

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Mounted via Pmount: Mount partition at boot

/dev/sdb1 on /mnt/sdb1 type ntfs (rw,relatime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dmask=077,nls=iso8859-1,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1)
User: root Group: root Permissions: drwx------

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As you can see the NTFS file system is mounted differently by Pmount & does not work properly: note the type "ntfs" & different permissions.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to change the mounting within Pmount ?

I have not tried a fresh boot w/o savefile yet, but suspect the problem has to do with the Pmount program & will not be affected by the savefile.

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#7 Post by Geoffrey »

netfrog77 wrote:As you can see the NTFS file system is mounted differently by Pmount & does not work properly: note the type "ntfs" & different permissions.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to change the mounting within Pmount ?

I have not tried a fresh boot w/o savefile yet, but suspect the problem has to do with the Pmount program & will not be affected by the savefile.
I'll look at that and see what can be done
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#8 Post by bigpup »

I have it set up for automatic mounting so it is ready to go.
How did you do this?
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#9 Post by bigpup »

Could try using this:

Startmount-0.5.5 Drive automount and program starter
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50845
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#10 Post by netfrog77 »

Pmount: "Mount partition at boot" check box, when mounting a partition.

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#11 Post by netfrog77 »

Hi All,

Thanks to bigpup for the 'Startmount' .pet link.
Installed & works perfectly for mounting the usb NTFS partition.

Thanks to Geoffrey for looking into the problem with Pmount.
Hope a solution is not too difficult - it would be good to have the 'built-in' method mount usb NTFS partitions properly..

Best regards to all,
Bob (netfrog77)

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