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icake

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2017, 04:17    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: yong with Chinese pets for fatdog64 7.1.0
 

Stemsee,
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When I have yong installed and I still want to make the system chinese as well do I still need to install a half-chinese pet?
no
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Or must I uninstall yong and then install a half chinese pet and then the chinese system pet?
only 1 half-Chinese pet (yong, fcitx or scim) + 1 chinese pet
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With yong installed and then installing half-chinese pet and the chinese system pet after restart X everything is chinese, but yong no longer works and neither does fcitx. Also after subsequent restart, the system changes with only some menu items and desktop icons retain chinese text.

In this case what steps must be taken so that only yong is installed and full chinese system, but no fcitx or scim?

I think you cannot install more than 1 half-Chinese language pets (yong + SCIM or fcitx) to one English system because they will interfere with each other and funny things will happen.
To make it work, I would recommend a fresh start from the English system rather than trying to fix your combo.

For your information, I had spent a few hours this morning trying to create the yong Chinese language pet for fatdog64 7.1.0 but ran into some issues. After changing the locale to either zh_CN or zh_HK, yong cannot run on most applications. yong is available in urxvt and applications that can specify the input method (need to choose yong as the input method) (e.g. Abiword and osmo). I will keep on working.

While waiting may I suggest that you try out the other Chinese ready Puppy systems such as the quirky SlaQ 8.1.6 or quirky Xerus 8.1.6.
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Feb 2017, 21:31    Post subject:  

Hi icake

I found this.
After I load the fatdog-710-NLS.sfs the system is easily changed to chinese system but yong no longer works.

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icake

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 08:41    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: fd64 710 Chinese language pets
 

The Fatdog Team had released Fatdog64-710 Final on Dec 4, 2016

More information including background, announcement and release notes:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109067

Download Fatdog64-710:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/iso/
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributions/fatdog/iso/
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fatdog/iso/
http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/fatdog/iso/

(a) I have created 6 half-Chinese language pets for Fatdog64-710:
fcitx Chinese input platform: fcitx64_4.2.7-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (15 mb)
scim Chinese input platform: scim64_1.4.14-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (12 mb)
yong Chinese input platform:
yong_4.2.0-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (5.5 mb)
yong_th_2016.11.5-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (4.7 mb)
yong_thjj_2016.7.29-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (5.1 mb)
yong_thth_2014.8.5-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (6.1 mb)

(b) I have also created 2 Chinese language pets:
Simplified Chinese: fd64-7.1.0-zhcn-13.1.0.txz (1.6 mb)
Traditional Chinese: fd64-7.1.0-zhhk-13.1.0.txz (1.1 mb)

To use:
(c) after install any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets under (a):
your Fatdog64 710 system will be able to display and input Chinese (desktop menus, sub-menus and icon labels are still English)

(d) after install any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets under (a) and also install 1 of the 2 Chinese language pets under (b):
your Fatdog64 710 system will be able to display and input Chinese; plus
your desktop menus, sub-menus and icon labels will be changed to Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese

more information about the fcitx64 4.2.7 pet, please see postings dated Feb 4 and 12, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the scim64 1.4.14 pet, please see postings dated Feb 6 and 13, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the yong pets, please see posting dated Dec 31, 2016 on page 25 of this subject

All these half-Chinese and Chinese language pets are now available for download from the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting for download addresses.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 10:59    Post subject:  

The packages listed are not yet visible on google drive. I'll try again later. Have you tested with fatdog-NLS.sfs . The system can change between mutiple interface languages. Previous yong only works when locale is english, not portugues or chinese. Looking forward to testing out this new set of packages.

FatDog keyboard layout doesn't seem to work properly, either. When I switch to potuguese keyboard layout none of the particular portuguese characters are evident.

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step

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 15:01    Post subject:  

stemsee wrote:

FatDog keyboard layout doesn't seem to work properly, either. When I switch to potuguese keyboard layout none of the particular portuguese characters are evident.

stemsee

Hi stemsee, this specific issue seems to be unrelated to icake's Chinese pets. Can you please take it to the Fatdog64-710 thread? Thank you.

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icake

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 23:41    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: fd64 710 half-Chinese and Chinese pets
 

I have just tested the google and baidu links shown under the first post of this subject 5 minutes ago and the 6 fatdog64 710 half-Chinese and 2 Chinese language pets are all there. Let me know if you still have problems downloading.

I agree with step that the keyboard issue is not related to the Chinese language pets.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Feb 2017, 01:22    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: yong Chinese pets running in Portuguese locale
 

I have tested the yong 13.1.0 txzes with fd64-nls_710.sfs on the fd64 710 system and they can all run under locales en_US.UTF-8, zh_CN.UTF-8 or zh_HK.UTF-8.

For Portuguese locales (pt_PT.UTF-8 or pt_BR.UTF-8 ), I found out that:
a. yong is available in console
b. yong is available in applications that allow the selection of input method and you need to select yong as the input method (e.g. osmo, abiword)
c. yong is not available in applications that cannot select input method (e.g. geany, libreoffice, seamonkey browser)

One way to fix (c) and make yong available in applications that cannot specify input method under locales pt_PT.UTF-8 or pt_BR.UTF-8:
d. assume that you have already installed fd64-nls_710.sfs and 1 of the 4 yong half-Chinese pets
e. change locale to Chinese zh_CN.UTF-8 and restart X (to make locale zh_CN.UTF-8 files available)
f. change locale to pt_PT.UTF-8 or pt_BR.UTF-8 and restart X
g. open /etc/X11/initrc with geany or other text editor
h. find the section near the beginning of the file (inserted by the yong pets):
Code:
   export  XIM="yong"
   export  XIM_ARGS="-d"
   export  XIM_PROGRAM="yong"
   export GTK_XIM_MODULES="yong"
   export QT_XIM_MODULES="yong"

i. add one more line at the end of the above section:
Code:
   export LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8"

j. save the file and restart X server

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stemsee

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2017, 03:27    Post subject:  

Hi icake

Results have proved positive.

However I notice that there is a relatively small configuration problem when switching locales from Chinese to English or Portuguese (I didn't try other locales but I assume the problem is universal). The problem is that labels for the root menu and Chrome apps entry and desktop icons remain in Chinese. Also the same when i uninstall the chinese system package.

I simply edited desktop icon labels, but the menu label is very difficult to edit, as I do not know which file to edit.

Am I right in thinking that 'razor' theme is the chinese translated files?


regards
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icake

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2017, 09:36    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: uninstall fd64 710 Chinese language pets
 

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when switching locales from Chinese to English or Portuguese (I didn't try other locales but I assume the problem is universal). The problem is that labels for the root menu and Chrome apps entry and desktop icons remain in Chinese. Also the same when i uninstall the chinese system package.

1. the reason is the Chinese language pets were not designed to uninstall and reverse all the changes (I was lazy and time was limited)

2. to reverse some selected items from Chinese to English under the conditions described above:

a. desktop icons
replace file /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Puppypin
by /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Puppypin_org

b. startup menu icon label (lower left-hand corner)
i. replace mv /usr/share/lxqt/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.svg
by /usr/share/razor/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.old.svg

ii. replace /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf
by /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf.org

c. right click empty space on desktop pop-up menu
i. replace /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml
by /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.org.xml

ii. replace /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.xml
by /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.org.xml

iii. replace /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.xml
by /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.org.xml

d. right click desktop partition icon pop-up menu upper section
replace /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh
by /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh.org

e. right click desktop icons pop-up menu middle section
i. replace /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml
by /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml_org

ii. replace /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml
by /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml_org

iii. replace /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo/
by /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo_org/

Please remember to keep the names of the original files (e.g. under a above, the new file /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Puppypin will contain the contents of the file /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/Puppypin_org)

Let me know if I missed any items.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2017, 22:44    Post subject:  

Thanks icake

Would you say this does it? Maybe don't need the '_cn' backups ...
Code:
#!/bin/sh
mv -f /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin_cn
cp -f /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin_org /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
mv -f /usr/share/lxqt/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.svg /usr/share/lxqt/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.svg_cn
cp -f /usr/share/razor/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.old.svg /usr/share/lxqt/themes/ambiance/mainmenu.svg
mv -f  /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf  /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf _cn
cp -f  /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf.org /root/.config/lxqt/panel.conf
mv -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml_cn
cp -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.org.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml
mv -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.xml_cn
cp -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.org.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_top.xml
mv -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.xml_cn
cp -f /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.org.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/menu_bottom.xml
mv -f /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh_cn
cp -f /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh.org /usr/sbin/fatdog-drive-icon-roxlib.sh
mv -f /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml  /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml_cn
cp -f /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml_org /usr/share/ROX-Filer/AppInfo.xml
mv -f /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml_cn
cp -f /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml_org /usr/local/apps/Trash/AppInfo.xml
mv -f /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo_cn
cp -f /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo_org /etc/xdg/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Feb 2017, 01:31    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: uninstall fd64 710 Chinese language pets
 

I do not have access to a pc to test your codes now but they look fine to me.
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2017, 10:35    Post subject:  

Anyway, it didn't work!
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2017, 12:09    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: reverse fd64 710 Chinese language pets
 

Stemsee:

After reading your latest report that it didn't work, I spent some time testing your codes using this approach:

1. run fd64 710 English on my pc using a frugal install

2. install yong_th_2016.11.5-fd64710-en-zh-raring-13.1.0.txz (1 of the 4 yong pets for fd64710) - system can display and input Chinese

3. install fd64-7.1.0-zhcn-13.1.0.txz - desktop icons, menus, sub-menus, tooltips are now Chinese

4. install fd64-nls_710.sfs - to add more locales

5. change locales to en_US.UTF-8 or pt_PT.UTF-8

6. run your codes to reverse the miscellaneous Chinese items - all desktop icons, menus, sub-menus and tooltips are now English/Portuguese

I realized that the reverse process is not clean and perfect but all tested items were back to English/Portuguese

Once again thanks for raising the issue because I learned a lot from it.
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2017, 20:52    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: Chinese language pets for tahrpup and tahrpup64 6.0.6
 

666philb has released 2 new Puppy systems on Feb 15, 2017: tahrpup 6.0.6 and tahrpup64 6.0.6

Main features:
built from ubuntu 14.04 LTS trusty tahr

More information and forum discussions:
tahrpup: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96178
tahrpup64: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96748

Download:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-tahr/iso/tahrpup%20-6.0-CE/ or
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/puppy-tahr/iso/tahrpup%20-6.0-CE/

I have created 6 half-Chinese language pets each for tahrpup 6.0.6 (**-13.0.2.pet) and tahr64 6.0.6 (**-13.0.9.pet):
fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx_4.2.7-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (23.9 mb)
fcitx64_4.2.7-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (21.6 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim_1.4.14-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (22.1 mb)
scim64_1.4.14-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (18.3 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-raring-13.0.2.pet (9.5 mb)

yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-raring-13.0.9.pet (9.5 mb)

Plus 2 Chinese language pets each for tahrpup 6.0.6 (**-13.0.2.pet) and tahr64 6.0.6 (**-13.0.9.pet):
Simplified Chinese:
tahr-6.0.6-zhcn-13.0.2.pet (2.9 mb)
tahr64-6.0.6-zhcn-13.0.9.pet (1.7 mb)

Traditional Chinese:
tahr-6.0.6-zhhk-13.0.2.pet (2.5 mb)
tahr64-6.0.6-zhhk-13.0.9.pet (0.9 mb)

To use:
(a) any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets will enable you to display and input Chinese in tahrpup 6.0.6 (use the 13.0.2.pets) and tahr64 6.0.6 (use the 13.0.9.pets)

(b) the Chinese language pets will give you Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese menus, icon labels, tooltips for tahrpup 6.0.6 (use the 13.0.2.pets) and tahr64 6.0.6 (use the 13.0.9.pets)

more information about the fcitx64 4.2.7 pet, please see postings dated Feb 4 and 12, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the scim64 1.4.14 pet, please see postings dated Feb 6 and 13, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the fcitx 4.2.7 pet and scim 1.4.14 pet, please see posting dated Feb 19, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the yong pets, please see posting dated Dec 31, 2016 on page 25 of this subject

All these half-Chinese and Chinese language pets are now available for download from the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting for download addresses.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Feb 2017, 09:22    Post subject: Chinese language pets
Subject description: slacko 5.7 2017A Chinese language pets
 

8Geee has released Slacko5.7-2017A on Feb 14, 2017

Main features:
a continuation and update to the 2015, 2016, and 2017 versions
The updates are current to Feb. 14, 2017

More information and forum discussions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=878633

Download:
https://archive.org/details/s57-2017A

I have created 6 half-Chinese language pets for Slacko5.7 2017A:
fcitx Chinese input platform:
fcitx_4.2.0-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (18.7 mb)

scim Chinese input platform:
scim_1.4.9-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (21.6 mb)

yong Chinese input platform:
yong3264_4.2.0-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (8.6 mb)
yong3264_th_2016.11.5-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (7.9 mb)
yong3264_thjj_2016.7.29-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (8.4 mb)
yong3264_thth_2014.8.5-en-zh-precise-12.0.0.pet (9.5 mb)

Plus 2 Chinese language pets for Slacko5.7 2017A:
Simplified Chinese:
slacko-5.7.2017a-zhcn-12.0.0.pet (1.9 mb)

Traditional Chinese:
slacko-5.7.2017a-zhhk-12.0.0.pet (1.9 mb)

To use:
(a) any 1 of the 6 half-Chinese language pets will enable you to display and input Chinese in Slacko5.7 2017A

(b) the Chinese language pets will give you Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese menus, icon labels, tooltips for Slacko5.7 2017A

more information about the fcitx 4.2.X pet and scim 1.4.X pet, please see posting dated Feb 19, 2015 on page 15 of this subject
more information about the yong pets, please see posting dated Dec 31, 2016 on page 25 of this subject

All these half-Chinese and Chinese language pets are now available for download from the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting for download addresses.

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