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icake

Joined: 26 Jul 2012
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Aug 2013, 11:36    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: revised documentations
 

I have uploaded for public sharing 2 pdf files:

1. user manual: 32bit.ChineseLanguagePetsBriefing_简介中文包簡介.2013Jul29.pdf
2. change log: 32bit_中文包更改纪录_change_log_更改紀錄.2013Jul29.pdf

reflecting recent changes in the Chinese Language pets:
a. new: precise 5.7
b. revised: upup raring 3.9.9.1, upup precise 3.8.3.1, Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.7, raring 5.6.94

Each file contains the English, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese versions of the document. Please see the first posting under this subject for download addresses.
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icake

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug 2013, 13:40    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: Chinese Language pets for snow 020 and midnightsun 003
 

I have added 12 Chinese Language pets to the public sharing folder for 3 Puppy systems originally created by pemasu from Finland: Snow Puppy 020; Midnightsun Pup 003 and 003 tmix (modified by Tman)

3 systems X 2 Languages (Simplified/Traditional) X 2 input method platforms (fcitx/SCIM) = 12 pets

Please see first posting under this subject for download addresses.

Snow Puppy 020 was released on May 18, 2013
kernel 2.6.35.7
good laptop support.
Internet tools: Firefox 4.0.1, pidgin 2.7.11, xchat 2.88, transmission 2.22 and uget
network tool: Frisbee

more information for snow Puppy: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63163

download snowpuppy-020.iso (235 Mb): http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/SnowPuppy-020/

Midnight Sun Pup 003 was released on Jul 3, 2011
kernel 2.6.38.4
Gimp, VLC, Umplayer, Pidgin, DeadBeef

more information for midnightsun: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69353

download midnightsunpup-003.iso (240 mb): http://smokey01.com/pemasu/MidnightsunPup-003/

A modified version, Midnightsun Pup 003 tmix was created by Tman and released on Jul 24, 2011
it has icewm window manager, smaller size
download Midnightsun-003-tmix.iso (202 mb): http://smokey01.com/Tman/Midnightsun-003-tmix.iso

I have tested and confirmed that the current released Universal half-Chinese pets can handle all these 3 Puppy systems.

The pdf user manual and change logs were also updated to include these new pets. These are available in English, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese.
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icake

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug 2013, 20:39    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: precise 5.7.1
 

precise 5.7.1 was released by Barry on Aug 3, 2013. This is a bug fix for 5.7 (released on Jul 29, 2013), fixing 3 main bugs:

1. Non-US keyboards
Under X, all applications on first start use an US layout keyboard. Exit and restart the application will give a correct keyboard layout. (This should not affect computers using a Chinese environment)

2. External optical media
when an external USB optical drive was plugged, the drive icon did not appear on the desktop

3. Playing DVD videos
when play DVD video with Gnome-Mplayer, just got a blank window.
Mostly fixed but still has a problem with DVD menus -- to get it work properly and set the correct video-out mode, just open Preferences window and then close it

I have tested the Chinese Language pets and happy to report that precise 5.7 Chinese Language pets can handle precise 5.7.1 already.
However, I found a bug in one of the Chinese Language pets: precise-5.7-zhhk-fx-7.2.1.pet (Traditional Chinese; fcitx)
Start menu will display a few not yet translated English terms.
This bug was fixed and the pet replaced.

I have also tested the universal half-Chinese Language pets and found that they can handle precise 5.7.1
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icake

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 01:18    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: lxpup 13.04 and 13.01 Chinese Language pets
 

I have just uploaded 12 Chinese Language pets to the public sharing folders for 3 Puppy systems using LXDE desktop: lxpup 13.04; 13.01 Full and 13.01

The names of theses pets are:

3 systems X 2 Languages (Simplified/Traditional) X 2 input method platforms (fcitx/SCIM)= 12 pets

The revised pdf documents written in English, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese were also uploaded:

1. 32bit_中文包更改纪录_change_log_更改紀錄.2013Aug10.pdf
2. 32bit.ChineseLanguagePetsBriefing_简介中文包簡介.2013Aug10.pdf

Please see the first posting under this subject for the download addresses.

lxpup 13.04 beta 6 was released on Jun 19, 2013. It is still in beta stage and has limited applications. There is no web browser included in the iso, other features:
kernel 3.2.33
new shutdown control
LXDE, PCManFM, Rox-Filer
Leafpad, Geany, notecase
Inklite, mtPaint, Viewnior
ePDFviewer, Gnome MPlayer

More information for 13.04 beta 6 can be found here: http://lxpup.weebly.com/
Download lxpup-13.04-beta6.iso (186 mb) here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkmatelxde/files/Lxpup-13.04/

13.01 was released on Feb 3, 2013, it has:
LXDE, PCManFM, Rox-Filer
Abiword, Geany
Inklite, mtPaint, Viewnior
Gnumeric, Homebank
Frisbee Firewall, PurlFtp file sharing, YASSM Samba
Firefox, GNOME Mplayer

13.01 Full has more applications including:
Thunar file manager
LibreOffice 3.6 suite with word, spreadsheet, draw, calculate, presentation, database
VLC media player, Totem Movie Player, Rhythmbox
Pidgin, gThumb,GIMP Imge manipulation

More information about 13.01 can be found here: http://lxpup.weebly.com/lxpup.html
Download Lxpup_13.01.iso (198 mb) and Lxpup_13.01-FULL.iso (541 mb): http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkmatelxde/files/Lxpup-13.01/

I have tested and confirmed that the already released universal half-Chinese Language pets for fcitx and SCIM can handle the above 3 lxpup systems.
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icake

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 05:15    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: simplicity and lxpup-14 Chinese Language pets/debs
 

I have just uploaded 14 new Chinese Language pets/debs to the public sharing folder for 3 Puppy systems using the LXDE desktop: simplicity 13.7 desktop/obsidian and lxpup-14. Please see first posting of this subject for download addresses.
The names of these pets are:

(A) 8 pets are for simplicity 13.7 released on July 23, 2013, a system developed by the simplicity development team lead by David Purse.

It comes with 2 versions,
Obsidian has Firefox 22.0 browser, LXDE and PCManFM file manager
Desktop has more applications including Skype 4.2, LibreOffice 4.0.2, VL 2.07

more information: http://simplicitylinux.org/
download SimplicityObsidian137Release.iso (169 mb);
http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplicitylinux/files/simplicity13.7release/SimplicityObsidian137Release.iso/download
download SimplicityDesktop137Release.iso (452 mb)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/simplicitylinux/files/simplicity13.7release/SimplicityDesktop137Release.iso/download

(B) 6 of these are for lxpup-14 which was made by Jejy69 and released on July 20, 2012
lxpup-14 uses slackware's Gslapt and can access slackware packages. Unfortunately, it cannot install Puppy pets easily and so lxpup-14 Chinese Language pets were done in debian debs instead.
This solution was formed after some discussions with a few visitors posted in #13328 to #13339 of the discussions in the Chinese Puppy Discussions forum http://www.minilinux.net/node/2545

I want to make use of this opportunity to thank everyone who had participated in the discussions and for their contributions.

more information about lxpup-14: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79810
download lxpup-14.iso (202.3 mb) http://sourceforge.net/projects/checkmatelxde/files/lxpup-14/
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icake

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Posts: 175

PostPosted: Mon 12 Aug 2013, 13:47    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: off line notice
 

I had a review of my work on the Chinese Language pets. The number of pets released since June 30 is 110 in 45 days.
Now I have to prepare myself for a 7 weeks trip during which internet connection is limited and out of my control, upload ability doubtful and might not be available.
Please therefore adjust your expectations about the Chinese Language pets accordingly. My connection will return to normal around mid-October.
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icake

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013, 19:45    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: slacko 5.6 and precise 5.7.1 Chinese Language pets
 

I have uploaded 8 Chinese Language pets for slacko 5.6 and precise 5.7.1 in the public sharing folders. Please see the first posting in this subject for the download addresses.
Names of these are:

(A)slacko 5.6 was released on August 12, 2013. Coordinator is Mick Amadio (01micko)

key features:
has PAE (kernel 3.10.5) and non-PAE (kernel 3.4.52) versions
compatible with slackware 14.0, Salix and Slacky repositories
New F2fs installer
New Run internet apps as unprivileged user "spot"
JWM-835 latest window manager
Updated Video Upgrade GUI for AMD/ATI and Nvidia graphics cards
Firefox ESR browser

Minimum System Requirements
Recommended: 900MHz processor (P3 or AMD K7), 512MB RAM and either bootable cd access, usb boot or network boot access. A Hard Drive is not required
Slacko has been known to run on a P3 733MHz processor with 256MB RAM. Slacko does not support old P2 or AMD K6 processors.
Intel Pentium M processors with a 400Mhz FSB (see glossary) do not run the PAE version

More information in release notes: http://slacko.01micko.com/notes.html
download slacko-5.6-4G-NON_PAE.iso (164 mb) and slacko-5.6-4G-PAE.iso (165 mb)
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.6/

(B)precise 5.7.1 is one of Barry's official Puppy released on Aug 3, 2013.
I have already posted information about precise 5.7.1 on Aug 4, 2013 including download addresses. In that posting, I mentioned that precise 5.7.1 can use the Chinese Language pets for precise 5.7 and so no new pets were made. A bug was found recently and so a new bug fixed batch of Chinese Language pets are produced.

I have tested and confirmed that the universal half-Chinese Language pets already released can handle both slacko 5.6 and precise 5.7.1

Also updated are the 2 pdf documentation files, written in English, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese:
1. 32bit_中文包更改纪录_change_log_更改紀錄.2013Aug13.pdf
2. 32bit.ChineseLanguagePetsBriefing_简介中文包簡介.2013Aug13.pdf
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icake

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Aug 2013, 02:02    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: osmo patch
 

A bug was found and a suggested solution was reported by a no-name visitor on the Chinese Puppy Forum.
This bug affects the 32 bit osmo program under Traditional Chinese (zh_HK) locale and affects 15 of the 18 groups of 32 bit Traditional Chinese Language pets. All Simplified Chinese Language pets and 64 bit Chinese Language pets are not affected.
The bug causes osmo to crash and unable to start under zh_HK.UTF-8 locale.

Affected 32 bit Traditional Chinese Language pets Puppy systems:
1. Dup Squeeze
2. Dup Wheezy
3. lupup
4. lxpup (for 13.01 only, not affecting lxpup 14)
5. macpup
6. midnightsun pup
7. precise
8. quirky
9. racy
10. raring
11. slacko
12. snow
13. upup precise
14. upup raring
15. wary

The following 32 bit Traditional Chinese Language pets for Puppy systems are not affected:
16. carolina
17. linalite
18. simplicity
19. lxpup 14 (but lxpup 13.01 is affected)

I have made and uploaded a patch (zhhk-osmo-patch-7.2.5.pet 0.3 mb) to the Traditional Chinese pet folder to correct the problem. Please see the first posting of this subject for the download addresses.
What the patch.pet does is to set LC_TIME=zh_TW.UTF-8 and add the necessary zh_TW.UTF-8 locale files

To apply the patch:
a. start up the Puppy system with the already installed affected Traditional Chinese Language pet
b. install the patch.pet by double click on the patch.pet file
c. restart X after the installation of the patch.pet is finished

I want to thank the unnamed visitor again for the time, effort and ideas to discover and resolve this bug.
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icake

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Aug 2013, 16:32    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: osmo bug solutions
 

I have to thank the no-name visitor on the Puppy Chinese forum again for finding another better, simpler and more direct solution to get around the bug of osmo not able to run in zh_HK locale.
Let me summaries the facts about this osmo bug:
1. due to utf8 format problems, osmo (the personal calendar tool) cannot start in zh_HK locale, which affects versions 7.2.5 and earlier 32 bit Chinese Language pets
2. Simplified Chinese, half-Chinese and 64 bit Chinese Language pets are not affected
3. the bug is in the osmo source code and has been reported and discussed on osmo websites. It was fixed on osmo version 0.2.10+svn922-2
4. Puppy uses osmo version 0.2.8. Upgrade to version 0.2.10+svn922-2 requires many extra library files,some are difficult to find and so a temporary solution is needed
5. the no-name visitor has suggested a few get around methods to solve the bug
6. Based on an earlier method, a patch.pet file zhhk-osmo-patch-7.2.5.pet (0.3 mb) was made and uploaded to the public sharing folder "Traditional Chinese pets". It resets LC_TIME=zh_TW.UTF-8 and adds the required zh_TW.UTF-8 locale files
to install the patch.pet, first download the patch.pet, then:
a. start the Puppy system with the already installed affected Traditional Chinese Language pet
b. mouse double click the patch.pet file
c. after installation has finished, restart X
7. a better, simpler and more direct method, also suggested by the no-name visitor:
no need to install the patch.pet, just change a "0" to "1" on line 29 of the file /root/.osmo/config.xml,under section <general>,
from ==>: <override_locale_settings>0</override_locale_settings>
to ==>: <override_locale_settings>1</override_locale_settings>
save the file and that is all
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csshin

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Aug 2013, 10:18    Post subject: fcitx chewing (新酷音)
Subject description: looking for installing of fcitx chewing in puppy
 

Dear icake,

I am trying to include chewing (新酷音)in fcitx but no idea how to. Could you point me some directions, or better if you could include chewing in your next release of the chinese half package for puppy that contains fcitx.

Thank you for your help
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icake

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Aug 2013, 15:03    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: chewing
 

I tried to add chewing in the fcitx Chinese Language pets but ran into some troubles.
However I was able to add chewing in my SCIM Chinese Language pets and a scim-chewing-0.3.5-2.pet (2 mb) was made and posted in the public sharing folder:

Other Applications/ Additional pets 其他應用程式 / 額外芭比包:http://sdrv.ms/18tY2vX
http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=476475&uk=3140544393

To test, download and install one of the SCIM Chinese Language pets that is suitable for your English Puppy first. Then download and install scim-chewing-0.3.5-2.pet.
After you restart X and start SCIM, you should see chewing (新酷音) as a choice under "Traditional Chinese" input methods.
Because I do not know chewing, so I can only tell that it is available and can start up. Please test it and let me know if all its functions are working normally.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Aug 2013, 20:32    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: fcitx chewing
 

I have just uploaded a new pet fcitx-chewing-0.2.0-2.pet (3.7 mb) to the public folder "Other Applications/ Additional pets".
Please test and see if everything is ok.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 00:33    Post subject: chewing for fcitx  

I have tried your new pet. It can enable chewing and the first run is basically smooth.
Thank you very much for your effort.


However fcitx always misses the keys (from time to time, randomly) when I type too fast in libreoffice (4.1.0). By this I mean if I type "zai",sometimes one of the alphabet, say a, goes directly to libreoffice and fcitx only catches "zi". This is not restricted to chewing but occurs in googlepinyin and pinyin as well.

After first run and reboot. Strange things happened. My desktop background turned grey. All the desktop icons becomes inverted triangles and all the words (english and chinese alike)become empty square. I tried to reinstall from scratch several times. Sometime this happened and sometime X-window cannot start despite all trials with xorgwizard. I guess it might be a bug between my pc and 5.7.1.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 02:18    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: chewing
 

Based on the information you posted, I have tested:
1. English Puppy precise 5.7.1 frugal installed
2. added precsie-5.7.1-zhhk-fx-7.2.5.pet, restarted X, reboot
3. added fcitx-chewing-0.2.0-2.pet, restarted X
4. reboot, everything normal

so I cannot repeat your problems.
Your slow keyboard response, plus the strange desktop displays might be caused by insufficient ram.
Puppy plus Libreoffice needs 700 mb ram, do you have 700 mb from ram + swap?
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Aug 2013, 21:00    Post subject: Chinese Language pets
Subject description: Chewing
 

I have 2 G ram.

Anyway, after a lot of testing, I concluded that it is not a problem with the Chinese language pet. It must be the new version of precise has something incompatible with my pc system. Anyway I now settle with Precise 5.4.3 and Chewing runs smoothly (except with the dropping alphabet problem). I use pinyin but almost all Taiwanese need Zhuyin (Chewing). Thank you very much for your help again.

By the way, is there any way to remove Shuangpin, it keeps being included despite my effort to disable it in the profile and deleting the sp.dat etc.
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