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Setting time confuses me again and again [Solved]
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nooby

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2013, 04:53    Post subject:  Setting time confuses me again and again [Solved]  

I had to go into the BIOS to tell it to be local time.

then I had to uncheck the box in Lupu to not use
the HW clock. Then I did a time sync and then
I rebooted to check if FatDog 64 was set up as
Kirk and JamesBond recommended and it was

and then I shut it down three times and then went
to bed and now in the morning it still show the right time

so I set it as solved. The important thing for us with
Daylight Saving is to set it to the local time zone.
In my case Europe Stockholm so it take care of such?
thanks to Sylvander for pointing that out to me.


old text

I did a search and found many threads so it is not me alone
but I am the one that fail to get it.

When I try out another puppy and then reboot into the one
I use most of the time then they are not agreeing on what time it is.

sh-4.1# cat /etc/clock
#Set this to either 'utc' or 'localtime' based on which one your computer's
#hardware clock uses.

HWCLOCKTIME=utcsh-4.1#

That means that my hardware clock uses UTC
and that is not what is recommended I guess?

One should use local time instead.


cat /etc/clock does not work in fatDog so maybe their clock is
in some other place?

Maybe this text explain what happens
jamesbond writes
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=634820#634820

Quote:

Fatdog always uses localtime for the BIOS clock.
Other puppies offer possibilities to use either localtime or UTC time
in the BIOS clock. To make sure the time stays the same between
Lupu and Fatdog, choose "localtime" in Lupu.

This is a design decision - Windows-based machines uses localtime
for BIOS clock, so Fatdog uses localtime too to ensure that switching
to/from Windows will not accidentally change the time. Of course, by
using localtime in BIOS clock, we lose that automatic daylight savings
time, but that is an advantage because automatic DST settings
doesn't always work



old links in case somebody need to read up on it

Here Disciple try to explain that I misunderstand both of them most likely
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=560636#560636

Maybe this text is important too
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=560757#560757

and this one
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=560658#560658

Catdude suggest this
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=449787#449787

another suggestion
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=550659#550659

Embarrassingly I had this problem as close in time as 08 Dec 2012

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2013, 14:19    Post subject: Setting time confuses me again and again [Solved ???]  

Hope npierces_explanation helps Very Happy
Happy New Year
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2013, 16:36    Post subject: Re: Setting time confuses me again and again [Solved ???]  

L18L wrote:
Hope npierces_explanation helps Very Happy
Happy New Year


Yes and the surprise is that it worked for several reboots
but when I shut down completely and went away for some hours
and then came back did a cold start it was one hour wrong again

When I do this in the terminal now it says
sh-4.1# cat /etc/clock
#Set this to either 'utc' or 'localtime' based on which one your computer's
#hardware clock uses.

HWCLOCKTIME=localtimesh-4.1#

so it is set to local time and I did a Sync to get right time for my local
Europe Stockholm and I did set the personal settings to not use
HW clock

Maybe I should use harware clock?

When I do this
sh-4.1# date
Wed Jan 2 21:36:30 CET 2013
sh-4.1#

Then it say show the local time that is correct now after the sync
but after a complete shutdown it seems to go wrong again one hour?

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2013, 05:41    Post subject: Re: Setting time confuses me again and again [Solved ???]  

nooby wrote:
When I do this in the terminal now it says
sh-4.1# cat /etc/clock
#Set this to either 'utc' or 'localtime' based on which one your computer's
#hardware clock uses.

HWCLOCKTIME=localtime


In your 1st post you write your HWCLOCKTIME is utc

So you have changed it?
I think then you must also change time in BIOS !
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2013, 06:16    Post subject:  

I edited my first post to be in line with what I learned like this


I had to go into the BIOS to tell it to be local time.

then I had to uncheck the box in Lupu to not use
the HW clock. Then I did a time sync and then
I rebooted to check if FatDog 64 was set up as
Kirk and JamesBond recommended and it was

and then I shut it down three times and then went
to bed and now in the morning it still show the right time

so I set it as solved. The important thing for us with
Daylight Saving is to set it to the local time zone.
In my case Europe Stockholm so it take care of such?
thanks to Sylvander for pointing that out to me.

Thanks for point that out to me.

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