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xanad


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PostPosted: Mon 14 Apr 2014, 12:07    Post subject:  

Ciao L18L, I think (but I'm not sure) that Alsaconf and Grub4Dos have the same problem inside slacko. Alsaconf not exist and Grub4Dos is blocked in MoMa....I need change my installation and re-install precise 571..

L18L wrote:

Anyhow, you found a bug and fixed it! Very Happy

Yeah! This nite 'festa grande'....
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 11:38    Post subject:  

Twisted Evil Arghhh! Too many words for a few concepts....the difference is like a cup of American coffee and an Italian espresso. Is always coffee!

bootflash : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7SlluSHloSTNPeFE/edit?usp=sharing
bootmanager : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7eUd6XzJIVEtXZ2c/edit?usp=sharing
puppyinstaller : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7X2FaNmp6UDJRVjA/edit?usp=sharing

langpack_it-20140415 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7NTdhdDRJd2lHY2s/edit?usp=sharing
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@L18L

QUESTION TIME: 'A doubt' Shocked
Now I have installed in my PC these distros:
slacko 560
precise 571jp
precise 570
lucid 528
What of these versions is indicated for the langpack? (there are many differences)
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 15:47    Post subject:  

xanad wrote:

QUESTION TIME: 'A doubt' Shocked
Now I have installed in my PC these distros:
slacko 560
precise 571jp
precise 570
lucid 528
What of these versions is indicated for the langpack? (there are many differences)


Precise 5.7.1 for Woof2 puppies. Slacko 5.7 for Woof-CE ideally in a separate langpack_woofce_it, the good news is that for this one you just have to install the current langpack and update the scripts that are different from Woof2.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Apr 2014, 18:08    Post subject:  

xanad wrote:

langpack_it-20140415 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7NTdhdDRJd2lHY2s/edit?usp=sharing


Added Abiword and CUPS translations (Momanager doesn't put them into the langpack). The modified pet is on the first page.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Apr 2014, 12:20    Post subject:  

Ok, I dropped slacko560, and came back to precise571
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014, 02:56    Post subject:  

Ciao vicmz, there are some problems....
- firefox27 for now is only for slacko (it's missing in precise)
- from the last langpack some menu 'voices' are also missing (langpack_it-20140410.pet is ok)
- frontend_funcs also missing (put manually)
- gparted_shell also missing (put manually)

Then, I think, some files (not in MoMa) must be inserted manually every time .... abiword and cups too

thinking about how to insert it automatically

reflection: slacko is more 'precise' than precise
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014, 11:24    Post subject:  

gparted_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7bUZCbkw4YjFaVTA/edit?usp=sharing
pburn : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7RE5SMmdQZEQydXM/edit?usp=sharing
xorgwizard-cli : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7Y0ZZWkMyODBabGs/edit?usp=sharing

P.S.: gparted_shell and pburn are different (slacko --> precise)

then, the previous langpack + firefox27 +
Wallpaper: usr/local/apps/Wallpaper/locale
wallpaper italian : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7dGtlS09RU3BuT3M/edit?usp=sharing
is good for slacko560 langpack (570 next time) and without Puppy wallpaper setter.

When you added the new gparted_shell and pburn, start the precise571 langpack

All the rest is ok Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014, 14:53    Post subject:  

Ciao Xanad

xanad wrote:
gparted_shell and pburn are different (slacko --> precise)

then, the previous langpack + firefox27 +
Wallpaper: usr/local/apps/Wallpaper/locale
wallpaper italian : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7dGtlS09RU3BuT3M/edit?usp=sharing
is good for slacko560 langpack (570 next time) and without Puppy wallpaper setter.

When you added the new gparted_shell and pburn, start the precise571 langpack

All the rest is ok Rolling Eyes


That's why I'm now maintaining separate langpacks for Woof2 puppies (Precise, Wary, Racy, Retro-Precise, derivatives) and for Woof-CE puppies (Slacko, FluxPup, derivatives). This means that I boot Slacko 5.7 to make langpack_woofce_es, and Precise 5.7.1 to make langpack_es. How about a langpack_woofce_it separate from langpack_it? Of course, Momanager can adapt existing translations to the puppy you're running, so you don't need to start from the beginning to adapt the langpack to Slacko.
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Apr 2014, 14:27    Post subject:  

xanad wrote:
some files (not in MoMa) must be inserted manually every time .... abiword and cups too

thinking about how to insert it automatically


Just put them into /usr/share/doc/langpack-template
which could be a link to /mnt/home/langpack-template
and you can use it for several puppies...
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I have been trying to create mo files for woof and woof-ce
Not sure if you like it that way
If you translate the fuzzy messages then
look to the end of the po file.
There are
#~ msgid "hello".
#~ msgstr "Hallo".
These are no more valid in the actual (woof-ce) script,
I had changed them back to (it is one search... replace in geany)
msgid "hello".
msgstr "Hallo".
So they stay valid and the file can be used in woof and woof-ce.

vicmz's way appears to be easier....
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Apr 2014, 12:17    Post subject:  

@vicmz
@L18L

ok, i think so:
separated langpacks is better, for now I take care of translating precise and after I change the fuzzies for slacko,,,, is just what you say L18L, the differences are only the fuzzies

For the 'indipendents' files from MoMa, when I have figured out what they are all, we will see how to do it.

Happy Easter! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Apr 2014, 13:33    Post subject:  

alsaconf : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7WVM0b0FlTC02MTA/edit?usp=sharing
alsawizard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7bnkyV25VdDZkUEU/edit?usp=sharing
burniso2cd : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7VmhnTkwtOU1XSFU/edit?usp=sharing
cdburner-wizard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7WkVzeDBYZ0V4NHc/edit?usp=sharing
cups_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7NWtsRDRvUmdldHM/edit?usp=sharing
dotpup : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7T1JKUVVnZXRXdVk/edit?usp=sharing
glipper_shell : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7d2Y2SzBsUjVRXzA/edit?usp=sharing
gnome-mplayer : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7aGljQlJnUlQyTVU/edit?usp=sharing
multiple_soundcard : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7MURIcVotd2JReXc/edit?usp=sharing
puppydownload : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7SnpXeWlrdllzZkk/edit?usp=sharing
pupscan : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7cVU0RVpQWkxQQTQ/edit?usp=sharing
resizepfile : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7Z1pVUndGalFTRDQ/edit?usp=sharing

sss:
desk_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7NWxJSVptTkJjRHM/edit?usp=sharing
initrd_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7ZzlRTmk0WTZUR2c/edit?usp=sharing
script_strings : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7TWlueW5JdjhpZkk/edit?usp=sharing

langpack_it-20140422 : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7WHBud3ZXeFREUWM/edit?usp=sharing

Mesdames et Messieurs, un peu de plaisir. Aujourd'hui est né

RoboPup-571_precise (wide-screen)



RoboPup-571_precise : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78iH9qX7RXk2SzRXX2RpTDQ/edit?usp=sharing
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 03:04    Post subject:  

Hi Vicmz I see your new langpack, but I don't understood the differences.
Mine is 2727 k and your is 2526. It is compiled directly from MoMa, if there are more files then I must edit it manually again? Now I work only with precise like you Wink
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vicmz wrote:

Here are another suggestions in case you don't know what to translate next:
puppyinstaller
bootmanager
alsaconf
bootflash
grub4dos
frugalinstaller
OCI


puppyinstaller --> OK
bootmanager --> OK
alsaconf --> OK
bootflash --> OK
grub4dos --> not works in moma (in slacko570 too),,,, @ please L18L help me Crying or Very sad
frugalinstaller --> not in precise (at the end)
OCI --> not in precise (at the end)

At today 163 apps translated....the show must go on! Cool
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PS: I started also the langpack for slacko570...
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NB: please delete firefox27 from first page (works only with slacko560, for now)
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vicmz wrote:

C'è un puppy in italiano basato sul Precise 5.7.1
Anche c'è Slack-it (Slacko 5.6 in italiano)
Anche vedi il site e forum Puppy Linux in italiano


C'è un puppy in italiano basato sul Precise 5.7.1 --> the link for the iso is down....
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 09:59    Post subject: Italian language pack
Subject description: wbar translated
 

xanad wrote:
....the show must go on! Cool


I could not resist the temptation to try translating wbar!

Copied /root/.wbar to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.wbar
Changed line from
c: rox /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
to
c: rox /usr/share/locale/${LANG%_*}/LC_MESSAGES

Appended
Code:


[_root_.wbar]
s%t: Home%t: %
s%t: Console%t: %
s%t: documenti%t: %
s%t: traduzioni%t: %
s%t: win7%t: %
s%t: Browse%t: %
s%t: amule%t: %
s%t: incoming%t: %
s%t: Edit%t: %
s%t: Play%t: %
s%t: Write%t: %
s%t: Calc%t: %
s%t: X%t: %
s%t: riavvia%t: %
s%t: stop%t: %
to /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings
and the same to my /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings.de
translated:
Code:
s%t: traduzioni%t: Übersetzungen%


...and next version (0.7) of setLanguage (has been uploaded now) was working
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 14:01    Post subject:  

xanad wrote:
Hi Vicmz I see your new langpack, but I don't understood the differences.
Mine is 2727 k and your is 2526. It is compiled directly from MoMa, if there are more files then I must edit it manually again? Now I work only with precise like you Wink


Sorry, I forgot to post about it. The differences are the usual stuff, Abiword and CUPS translations missing, a bunch of HTML help files that aren't translated so no need to include them.

xanad wrote:

puppyinstaller --> OK
bootmanager --> OK
alsaconf --> OK
bootflash --> OK
grub4dos --> not works in moma (in slacko570 too),,,, @ please L18L help me Crying or Very sad
frugalinstaller --> not in precise (at the end)
OCI --> not in precise (at the end)


The last two ones have to be installed to translate them.
frugalinstaller is here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57711
OCI is here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=89050

There are many Puppy apps that are usually not included in the official builds, but they are actually included in some versions and derivatives, or installed separately by users. For example the Peasy apps http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84490

Of course these are only ideas on where to continue. The best translations are those made taking enough time to read and analyse.

It's amazing how the langpack has grown. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr 2014, 14:08    Post subject: Re: Italian language pack
Subject description: wbar translated
 

L18L wrote:
xanad wrote:
....the show must go on! Cool


I could not resist the temptation to try translating wbar!

Copied /root/.wbar to /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.wbar
Changed line from
c: rox /usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
to
c: rox /usr/share/locale/${LANG%_*}/LC_MESSAGES

Appended
Code:


[_root_.wbar]
s%t: Home%t: %
s%t: Console%t: %
s%t: documenti%t: %
s%t: traduzioni%t: %
s%t: win7%t: %
s%t: Browse%t: %
s%t: amule%t: %
s%t: incoming%t: %
s%t: Edit%t: %
s%t: Play%t: %
s%t: Write%t: %
s%t: Calc%t: %
s%t: X%t: %
s%t: riavvia%t: %
s%t: stop%t: %
to /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings
and the same to my /usr/share/sss/menu_strings/menu_strings.de
translated:
Code:
s%t: traduzioni%t: Übersetzungen%


...and next version (0.7) of setLanguage (has been uploaded now) was working


Can this be applied to a wbar pet? Most wbar pets on the forum have translations for the configuration GUI but the text in the bar itself remains in English (meaning that after installing you have to edit each icon text manually to translate).

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