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Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 00:57**

OK I have reloaded all the software and Cups is still working.

On the Toshiba Satellite A205.
I started the Precise Puppy 5.4.91 nopae without savefile.
Menu==>System==>CUPS manage printing WORKS
I defined my HP PhotoSmart 5200

Then I created the 2 GB save file.
Rebooted twice checking the CUPS manage printing each time.
Then Added .sfs for libreOffice 3.5.4_en_US.sfs
Rebooted twice checking the CUPS manage printing each time
I reloaded all the software listed at the top of page 9 in this post
one at a time checking CUPS before and after rebooting.

I loaded firefox-18.0.2 last and cups continues to work.

I do not know what caused the problem. This is my first use of ext4 savefile but maybe it was a bad block in a critical spot.

CUPS continues to work.

Thank for your help!!!
-Bruce.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 01:29**

It seems in cupsd.conf, some things are not defined, like /var/log/cups/ for logs, /usr/share/cups/ for data, /etc/cups/ssl/ and certificate, also ssl port, the temp dir , SystemGroup can be root,lp ? .

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 01:53**

Barry,
I see that I forgot to remove from my frisbee-1.0 package the dependency on wag_profiles. Can you remove it from the 20130213 package added to the repo? Or, I have re-uploaded my copy but without the .pot file and without the dependency in the pet_specs file. You could take it from there:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 092#684092

Thank you for accepting it and network_tray-2.6.
Richard

EDIT: I see there are 2 minor issues with the display by frisbee. So, expect an update when I resolve them.

EDIT 2/20/2013 later in the day: I have corrected the above problems and uploaded the new version at the link above, as frisbee-1.0-20130220.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 02:18**

rerwin wrote:...
Thank you for accepting it and network_tray-2.6.
Richard

Thank to BK and Richard.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 04:44**

Hi Barry,

The output of dmesg will inevitably show a couple instances of this obtrusive line:

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ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared

Is it possible to get rid of it in your compile configuration?
More details: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25845

In your blog, you mentioned an alternative build with kernel 3.8 as a possible move. Can you please, consider making it a Bare Bones build?

Thank you for all your hard work.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 07:16**

anikin wrote:Hi Barry,

The output of dmesg will inevitably show a couple instances of this obtrusive line:
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ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared
Is it possible to get rid of it in your compile configuration?
More details: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25845

In your blog, you mentioned an alternative build with kernel 3.8 as a possible move. Can you please, consider making it a Bare Bones build?

Thank you for all your hard work.

But, our 'powerapplet_tray' battery status applet needs /proc/acpi/battery -- will disabling that option remove that?

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 07:19**

Precise Puppy 5.4.92 (5.5beta) has been uploaded.

There are a few recent posts to this thread and one or two pm's that missed out, but I will look at them soon.

Blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00138

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 09:59**

Install guvcview from PPM,but it not works.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:41**

JFYI - hardinfo report for Precise 5.4.92 (Precise 5.5 beta)

All seems extremely good to this average user.

SeaMonkey 2.15.2 seems fast to load and overall resource usage seems low.

Luvly Puppy - many thanks.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:50**

I did a manual frugal install to an ext4 formatted SDHC card running
on an Acer laptop pc.
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: fglrx
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): fglrx
mouse ramdac record vbe vgahw
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Version 4.2.12002 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
24180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4835.807 FPS
20543 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4108.572 FPS
21561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4312.103 FPS
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Memory 4005MB (177MB used)
Atheros Communications Inc.AR928X Wireless Network Adapter(PCI-Express)(rev 01)
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

I installed several pets + opera_12.14.1738_i386.deb +
kdegames,lxterminal,and vlc from ppm.
No problems so far.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 13:42**

Fresh manual frugal install to Fat32 USB2 stick with ext4 save & syslinux 4.04 boot.
Initial boot to desktop with working sound,wired ethernet and Nouveau driver at desired
1920x1080 resolution. The following pets were installed and tested:

PupControl-2.3|PupControl panel
tempiconsvg-0.16-i486|tray temperature monitor
nvidia-glx-304.43-precise-k3.2.29|NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver
chromium-25.0.1323.1-i686-1sl|Browse the Web
flashplayer11-11.2.202.270|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit|PupSnap screen capture

No problems indicated in any of the logs and this version appears rock solid.
Report-video now working correctly with DVB-t capture & Nvidia graphics card listed.
Ethernet connection persists across re-boots.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Many thanks for a superb job.
Positively salivating at the prospect of K 3.8 with f2fs.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 14:00**

Hi Barry,
My research results are conflicting and ambiguous. Upstream says it should be removed. A debian developer seconds that view. Ubuntu seems to have a view of their own. That's why I've asked you. So, your explanation would be much appreciated. But please, don't take this as something urgent. It is not.

From Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt:
What: CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER
When: 2.6.39
Why: sysfs I/F for ACPI power devices, including AC and Battery, has been working in upstream kernel since 2.6.24, Sep 2007. In 2.6.37, we make the sysfs I/F always built in and this option disabled by default. Remove this option and the ACPI power procfs interface in 2.6.39.
Who: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>

see more here:https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/654021/

For backwards compatibility, this option allows deprecated power /proc/acpi/ folders to exist, even when they have been replaced by functions in /sys. The deprecated folders (and their replacements) include: /proc/acpi/battery/* (/sys/class/power_supply/*) /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/* (sys/class/power_supply/*) This option has no effect on /proc/acpi/ folders and functions, which do not yet exist in /sys

Say N to delete power /proc/acpi/ folders that have moved to /sys/
http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ACPI_ ... POWER.html

ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded...
This is a harmless notification that the old, backwards-compatible /proc/acpi/... interface is also present, along with the new sysfs interface.
If you think that your manufacturer-specific kernel modules (e.g. sony-laptop, etc.) are somehow mis-handling the legacy /proc/acpi interface, you can try disabling it, but the only way to do so is to build a custom kernel with the ACPI_PROCFS_POWER option disabled.
Scroll down to the end for the complete description from the kernel docs.
Removing this may have some minor side effects, e.g. the powertop utility won't fully work.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/149028/i ... tu-session

And what about the other (more important) question in my post, regarding an alternative build?

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 16:04**

linuxcbon wrote:
- PERL bugs ?
- # dirsplit
Can't locate List/Util.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-compiledb
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-configure
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-datafile
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- Same for other foomatic****
- # md5pass
Can't locate Crypt/PasswdMD5.pm in @INC
- # perlbug
Warning: failed to load Config_git.pl, something strange about this perl...
Can't locate Sys/Hostname.pm in @INC

hi linuxcbon,

puppy has it's main perl in the DEVX... install the devx and all your bugs work, apart from md5pass which requires some extra modules....

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cpan ExtUtils::MakeMaker
cpan Crypt::PasswdMD5

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 17:15**

5492 soars like Jonathon Livingston Seagull. I like the symbolism

But I'm confused by the kernel switches???

31 second startup time to gui on a old p4 tower, and only 44.4 meg
(including Conky) used at idle. This with a fresh frugal install.

I plan to run this version on other machines today. No problems
so far. It's a bit annoying to wipe out the floppy icon by accidentally
clicking on it. Newbies won't know to restart x. I think little things
like this should be fixed before 5.5 final.

Art

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 17:35**

I agree.
Or at least put a scrollbar in the JWM theme chooser, so that having many themes won't expand the GUI from roof to floor -- at times I think the Exit button will reach China. The same happens in the Icon Set Chooser GUI, a scrollbar for that one would be great, too.

The Simple Network Setup script could really use a scrollbar, when using it in areas with many routers the list goes below the taskbar and the buttons, and passphrase input field are not visible.

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 20:14**

While waiting for the non-pae version.........
Manual frugal install of 5.4.9.2 on my old Athlon XP box. Basically everything working well out of the box.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1365 frames in 5.0 seconds = 272.937 FPS
2085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 416.855 FPS
1998 frames in 5.0 seconds = 399.515 FPS
2152 frames in 5.0 seconds = 430.249 FPS
2049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 409.735 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (202MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 20 Feb 2013 02:15:42 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Posted: **Wed 20 Feb 2013, 23:27**

Did a USB install of 5.4.9.2:

I had no problem connecting my wi driver with frisbee however every 30 seconds or so it disconnected and reconnected again so I had to abandon frisbee. (Thanks Barry for including frisbee)

After a number of unsuccessful attempts I finally established a connection using network wizard.

This just goes to show that this wl driver is a disaster as far as puppy is concerned.

Apart from that congratulations on a great os.

irishrm.

Posted: **Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:35**

Frugal install to Flash drive

Posting from Precise 5.5 beta right now

Added 5 SFS (devx, poedit, libreoffice, java, wine)

Everything normal so far

For either official or derivative builds, Retrovol doesn't rise/low volume in my computer, how can I find out what sound card I have and set Retrovol to use it?

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1

Computer Details wrote:-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
Memory : 1025MB (261MB used)
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Posted: **Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:47**

when save 2fs to precisesave_cryptx-549.2fs,
then reboot,
then input password,
Always prompt for password error

Posted: **Thu 21 Feb 2013, 02:09**

vicmz

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1 ].

Vicmz I have same opinion.

Desktop theme is very good. Old is Gold !. Also, I would like to inform you all that Precise Puppy 5.5 is excellent in all respects .

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