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Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 07:16
by BarryK
anikin wrote:Hi Barry,

The output of dmesg will inevitably show a couple instances of this obtrusive line:

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ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared
Is it possible to get rid of it in your compile configuration?
More details: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25845

In your blog, you mentioned an alternative build with kernel 3.8 as a possible move. Can you please, consider making it a Bare Bones build?

Thank you for all your hard work.
But, our 'powerapplet_tray' battery status applet needs /proc/acpi/battery -- will disabling that option remove that?

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 07:19
by BarryK
Precise Puppy 5.4.92 (5.5beta) has been uploaded.

There are a few recent posts to this thread and one or two pm's that missed out, but I will look at them soon.

Blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00138

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 09:59
by tiangeng
Install guvcview from PPM,but it not works.

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:41
by Ray MK
JFYI - hardinfo report for Precise 5.4.92 (Precise 5.5 beta)

All seems extremely good to this average user.

SeaMonkey 2.15.2 seems fast to load and overall resource usage seems low.

Luvly Puppy - many thanks.

Precise Puppy 5.5beta

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:50
by Billtoo
I did a manual frugal install to an ext4 formatted SDHC card running
on an Acer laptop pc.
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92
Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: fglrx
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): fglrx
mouse ramdac record vbe vgahw
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Renderer ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Version 4.2.12002 Compatibility Profile Context 9.012
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
24180 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4835.807 FPS
20543 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4108.572 FPS
21561 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4312.103 FPS
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Memory 4005MB (177MB used)
Atheros Communications Inc.AR928X Wireless Network Adapter(PCI-Express)(rev 01)
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

I installed several pets + opera_12.14.1738_i386.deb +
kdegames,lxterminal,and vlc from ppm.
No problems so far.

Testing: Precise Puppy 5.4.92 (5.5beta)

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 13:42
by ETP
Fresh manual frugal install to Fat32 USB2 stick with ext4 save & syslinux 4.04 boot.
Initial boot to desktop with working sound,wired ethernet and Nouveau driver at desired
1920x1080 resolution. The following pets were installed and tested:
  • PupControl-2.3|PupControl panel
    tempiconsvg-0.16-i486|tray temperature monitor
    nvidia-glx-304.43-precise-k3.2.29|NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver
    chromium-25.0.1323.1-i686-1sl|Browse the Web
    flashplayer11-11.2.202.270|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
    PupSnap-1.8_Scrot-0.8_32Bit|PupSnap screen capture
No problems indicated in any of the logs and this version appears rock solid.
Report-video now working correctly with DVB-t capture & Nvidia graphics card listed.
Ethernet connection persists across re-boots.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
Many thanks for a superb job.
Positively salivating at the prospect of K 3.8 with f2fs.

Image

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 14:00
by anikin
Hi Barry,
My research results are conflicting and ambiguous. Upstream says it should be removed. A debian developer seconds that view. Ubuntu seems to have a view of their own. That's why I've asked you. So, your explanation would be much appreciated. But please, don't take this as something urgent. It is not.
From Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt:
What: CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER
When: 2.6.39
Why: sysfs I/F for ACPI power devices, including AC and Battery, has been working in upstream kernel since 2.6.24, Sep 2007. In 2.6.37, we make the sysfs I/F always built in and this option disabled by default. Remove this option and the ACPI power procfs interface in 2.6.39.
Who: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
see more here:https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/654021/
For backwards compatibility, this option allows deprecated power /proc/acpi/ folders to exist, even when they have been replaced by functions in /sys. The deprecated folders (and their replacements) include: /proc/acpi/battery/* (/sys/class/power_supply/*) /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/* (sys/class/power_supply/*) This option has no effect on /proc/acpi/ folders and functions, which do not yet exist in /sys

Say N to delete power /proc/acpi/ folders that have moved to /sys/
http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/ACPI_ ... POWER.html
ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded...
This is a harmless notification that the old, backwards-compatible /proc/acpi/... interface is also present, along with the new sysfs interface.
If you think that your manufacturer-specific kernel modules (e.g. sony-laptop, etc.) are somehow mis-handling the legacy /proc/acpi interface, you can try disabling it, but the only way to do so is to build a custom kernel with the ACPI_PROCFS_POWER option disabled.
Scroll down to the end for the complete description from the kernel docs.
Removing this may have some minor side effects, e.g. the powertop utility won't fully work.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/149028/i ... tu-session
And what about the other (more important) question in my post, regarding an alternative build?

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 16:04
by 666philb
linuxcbon wrote:
- PERL bugs ?
- # dirsplit
Can't locate List/Util.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-compiledb
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-configure
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- # foomatic-datafile
Can't locate Encode.pm in @INC
- Same for other foomatic****
- # md5pass
Can't locate Crypt/PasswdMD5.pm in @INC
- # perlbug
Warning: failed to load Config_git.pl, something strange about this perl...
Can't locate Sys/Hostname.pm in @INC
hi linuxcbon,

puppy has it's main perl in the DEVX... install the devx and all your bugs work, apart from md5pass which requires some extra modules....

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cpan ExtUtils::MakeMaker
cpan Crypt::PasswdMD5

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 17:15
by artsown
5492 soars like Jonathon Livingston Seagull. I like the symbolism :)
But I'm confused by the kernel switches???

31 second startup time to gui on a old p4 tower, and only 44.4 meg
(including Conky) used at idle. This with a fresh frugal install.

I plan to run this version on other machines today. No problems
so far. It's a bit annoying to wipe out the floppy icon by accidentally
clicking on it. Newbies won't know to restart x. I think little things
like this should be fixed before 5.5 final.

Art

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 17:35
by kurtdriver
I agree.
Or at least put a scrollbar in the JWM theme chooser, so that having many themes won't expand the GUI from roof to floor -- at times I think the Exit button will reach China. :lol: The same happens in the Icon Set Chooser GUI, a scrollbar for that one would be great, too. :D
The Simple Network Setup script could really use a scrollbar, when using it in areas with many routers the list goes below the taskbar and the buttons, and passphrase input field are not visible.

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 20:14
by James C
While waiting for the non-pae version.........
Manual frugal install of 5.4.9.2 on my old Athlon XP box. Basically everything working well out of the box.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1365 frames in 5.0 seconds = 272.937 FPS
2085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 416.855 FPS
1998 frames in 5.0 seconds = 399.515 FPS
2152 frames in 5.0 seconds = 430.249 FPS
2049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 409.735 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (202MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 20 Feb 2013 02:15:42 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 23:27
by irishrm
Did a USB install of 5.4.9.2:

I had no problem connecting my wi driver with frisbee however every 30 seconds or so it disconnected and reconnected again so I had to abandon frisbee. (Thanks Barry for including frisbee)

After a number of unsuccessful attempts I finally established a connection using network wizard.

This just goes to show that this wl driver is a disaster as far as puppy is concerned.

Apart from that congratulations on a great os.

irishrm.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:35
by vicmz
Frugal install to Flash drive

Posting from Precise 5.5 beta right now

Added 5 SFS (devx, poedit, libreoffice, java, wine)

Everything normal so far

For either official or derivative builds, Retrovol doesn't rise/low volume in my computer, how can I find out what sound card I have and set Retrovol to use it?

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1 :D
Computer Details wrote:-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
Memory : 1025MB (261MB used)
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:47
by tiangeng
when save 2fs to precisesave_cryptx-549.2fs,
then reboot,
then input password,
Always prompt for password error

precise Puppy 5.5 beta

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 02:09
by rameshiyer
vicmz

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1 ].

Vicmz I have same opinion.

Desktop theme is very good. Old is Gold !. Also, I would like to inform you all that Precise Puppy 5.5 is excellent in all respects .

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 04:05
by linuxcbon
Precise 5.4.92

- # wag-profiles.sh
** (gtkdialog3:23869): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token '</label>': syntax error
** (gtkdialog3:23886): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 6, near token '</label>': syntax error
.....
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 06:49
by BarryK
linuxcbon wrote:Precise 5.4.92

- # wag-profiles.sh
** (gtkdialog3:23869): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token '</label>': syntax error
** (gtkdialog3:23886): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 6, near token '</label>': syntax error
.....
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
No, you are wrong. What Puppy has is correct. I was informed of this sometime ago, and it works for case of more than 16 partitions.

Major number '259' is explained in the Linux documentation:
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devices.txt
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
Nothing. Unfortunately, these are needed dependencies in Precise Puppy.
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
Yes, the yellow colour in a terminal is awful, but I don't know how to change it. Perhaps someone can hack the urxvt source code.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
So? it is the Glipper package that has this.
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
That was deliberate. I think that there is an incompatibility between the two versions. The Ubuntu repo has both of these. 0.9.8 is included in the build for any pkgs that might be installed that need it, including some older PETs.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:19
by Terryphi
BarryK wrote:
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
That was deliberate. I think that there is an incompatibility between the two versions. The Ubuntu repo has both of these. 0.9.8 is included in the build for any pkgs that might be installed that need it, including some older PETs.
Yes, libssl.so.0.9.8 is essential. I have an important package (Mailwasher) that will not work with later versions.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:30
by BarryK
pemasu wrote:Playing with chrome browser. I tested the root disabling feature.
http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel

/usr/local/petget/hacks-postinstall.sh
I did add this into it:

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google-chrome-*)
if [ -f /usr/bin/bbe ];then #bbe is a sed-like utility for binary files.
if [ -f /opt/google/chrome/chrome  ];then
bbe -e 's/geteuid/getppid/' /opt/google/chrome/chrome > /tmp/chrome-temp1
mv -f /tmp/chrome-temp1 opt/google/chrome/chrome
chmod 755 /opt/google/chrome/chrome
ln -s /opt/google/chrome/chrome /usr/bin/google-chrome
echo '[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name=Google Chrome
GenericName=Web Browser
Comment=Access the Internet
Exec=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Icon=/opt/google/chrome/product_logo_48.png
Categories=WebBrowser;' > /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
   fi
  fi
 ;;
And then I downloaded this one:
https://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/e ... a_i386_deb

Posting from it now. This kind hack might enable the root user restricted .deb browsers. Well...they also might broke Cups, have done that in the past...but this seems to help installing these browsers anyway...
Heh heh, ok, another one. I have added your patch into Woof. Also committed and uploaded Woof.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:35
by James C
Manual frugal install of 5.4.9.3 on my trusty Athlon XP box. All looking good on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.93

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2122 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.349 FPS
2123 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.507 FPS
2157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 431.399 FPS
2233 frames in 5.0 seconds = 446.227 FPS
2227 frames in 5.0 seconds = 445.181 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (201MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Feb 2013 01:35:29 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.8.0 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Feb 20 17:29:16 GMT-8 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033756       595956       437800            0        63340
-/+ buffers:             532616       501140
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 
Looks really good so far......... even seems snappier than the pae version.
More testing later.