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xstylezx
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#76 Post by xstylezx »

Congrats on the new release simargl!

Speaking of the graphics drivers, my nvidia 6150se runs great on latest lxpup slacko with nvidia driver 304.64 as shown in nvidia x server settings. I can run games like assaultcube reloaded and 0ad and similar games just fine. Nothing real intensive graphics wise, but they do run great. Personally id be happy getting nouveau working myself. I'm going to try a few things mentioned in this thread when I get a chance, been busy lately. Will try the new version soon as well! :D

oui

Hi

#77 Post by oui »

Hi

mavrothal

you are making a good thing a little «kaput»

the initial ArchPup was really something new, as a Puppy with the freshness of the initial Puppy's (witch you did probably not know). sigmarl make this time exactly the same error as Barry Kauler itself:

BK did invent the thing with the «save file», a terrible thing, easy to copy, unprotected or as well...

and sigmarl did build this UGGLY ficture in his concept... WRRRRRRRR.H!

sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy after years, without save file, without little windows killing the time, and you a few guy's did turn him so, that he did reintroduce the UGGLY FILE and more and more little windows killing the time of the user!

good luck: «You have the distribution on the conscience» (Sie haben die Distribution auf dem Gewissen)!

rgds

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#78 Post by nooby »

oui interesting what you write here
"sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy
after years, without save file"

which iso are you talking about+ Can it still be downloaded?

Maybe you could start a new thread about the good and bad
about having save files? No criticism but this thread is about ArchPup
so will be split up if we start to talk about savefile good and bad on that one.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

oui

#79 Post by oui »

Hi nooby

which one? this one of course

Image

I am using it daily with Icecat as you can see on the bar...

no smudge windows, no artifice, all best, small, fast and safe at the user side!

Kind regards

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#80 Post by nooby »

oops sorry it is the picture at the http://sourceforge.net/projects/archpup/
http://c.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/archpup/ ... 2.12-1.jpg

kernel 3.6.8 but which version of Archpup is it? Maybe this one
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83064

ArchPup 12.12.2 archpup-12.12.2.iso
I actually have that one by accident :)

But I do use a savefile so maybe you
did a remaster so you don't need that one.

I need it to do Swedish like åäö and to get keyboard right .
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#81 Post by nooby »

I tried to set Swedish keyboard on Archpup
version 12.12 and the only way I found out was
to go into terminal and do setxkbmap se

is there any other way?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

stifiling
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#82 Post by stifiling »

nooby wrote:I tried to set Swedish keyboard on Archpup
version 12.12 and the only way I found out was
to go into terminal and do setxkbmap se

is there any other way?
nooby,

was wondering why you prefer using the older 12.12 over the new 13.2.2 archpup? the new archpup has the archlocale_132.sfs.

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#83 Post by stifiling »

Sim,

I tried putting together a 64 bit version and couldn't get any further than a 'Kernel Panic'. I know u said earlier that you would be unable to test a 64 bit archpup...but if you happen to have a gap of free time, and wanted to put forth a 'good try' in building one from the 32 bit system.....i'd be interested in testing it out. who knows? using the same scripts, but the x86_64 repos and a 64 bit kernel....it just might work.

simargl

#84 Post by simargl »

I'm now in process of moving to gtk3, next version will be completely different - without qt, and with minimal gtk2 applications (only sfs-load and lxappearance)

Main sfs will have only gtk2 libraries stored in /opt/gtk2/lib, not the full package..
gtk2 is version 2.24.10 and it is converted from Slitaz :shock: package (saves 500 KB and works perfectly 8) )

Latest gpicview development version from git can be compiled to use gtk3, and it's done

If someone wants this package, let me know I will upload it

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#85 Post by nooby »

" the new archpup has the archlocale_132.sfs"

thanks. I am not that good at computers.
so would that sfs work with the old or do i need a new iso?

My take on the word locale is that it make everything Swedish.
Menu and texts translated and so on.

My locale is always English but keyboard Swedish.
then I change that the time zone is Stockholm.

Is that possible with that archlocale_132.sfs ?

What could Oui have done that he does not need a Savefile?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

simargl

#86 Post by simargl »

In next version there will be new text editor based on gtk3 - l3afpad http://l3afpad.blogspot.com/ and geany is moved to archdev

Items in menu that required geany, like help files will now call /usr/bin/text-editor and that will execute text editor from specified list.

First on that list is geany, and after come l3afpad, mousepad, gedit... That means default text editor in main sfs is l3afpad,
but after archdev is loaded geany becomes the default.

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#87 Post by Smithy »

Just downloaded the Minimal Arch.

Will it do Jack pet, wineasio, rcrn51 canon printers? Green Dome Wines?
Just wondering if there is some special repository for apps, or whether the puppy pets will work with it.
Thanks.

EDIT: Well it looks nice and shiny, but how do you install things, clicked on a pet and it just did a copy of itself onto the hard drive.. I guess it won't do pets, or menu entries. Obviously it is a big departure from the standard puppy way of doing things, could do with a start bar with all the menu entries so you can get there quickly.
i.e Internet Connection, Firewall, Sound Setup, Video Setup. Printer Setup.
Looks very good tho'!
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#88 Post by raffy »

The new version 13.2.2 was recently announced together with a new forum. When I registered there, I could not use "raffy" as username, and the forum says
PERMISSIONS IN THIS FORUM:
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
FYI, thanks.
Puppy user since Oct 2004. Want FreeOffice? [url=http://puppylinux.info/topic/freeoffice-2012-sfs]Get the sfs (English only)[/url].

simargl

#89 Post by simargl »

Smithy,
in standard iso there is pacman GUI application for installing packages, but for minimal version
you'll have to use console. That is also easy :P, and this guide might be helpful http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 162#686162

raffy, Ok thanks for that information wi'll try to fix the problem.
I made that forum yesterday as a replacement for sourceforge forum - that one felt too rudimentary.
oui wrote:sigmarl did build the first "modern" Puppy after years, without save file, without little windows killing the time, and you a few guy's did turn him so, that he did reintroduce the UGGLY FILE and more and more little windows killing the time of the user!

good luck: «You have the distribution on the conscience» (Sie haben die Distribution auf dem Gewissen)!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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#90 Post by Smithy »

Thanks for the link Simargl, I must admit I've only used Fdisk and format C:
in a console (and a few Puppy tricks when I had to) and much prefer watching the console in those 70's films :wink:
But the archpup has got a nice clean look and feel about it from navigating with the mouse.
Will just keep watching how it develops for now.

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#91 Post by darkcity »

I would like to make an SFS containing all those lovely sound apps for archpup - but I haven't got time at the moment ; -(

unni
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How to install this ?

#92 Post by unni »

How can I install this ? I tried some steps given in some other threads of this forum like partitioning my drive & formatting it with ext4 . Then copied the 3 files some *.sfs , vmlinuz and initrd . Atlast , ran the grub4dos config . But on restarting the virtual machine ( yes , its on a VM ) , I get a window manager not found error . Is it some trouble with xinitrc ? Please help !

simargl

Re: How to install this ?

#93 Post by simargl »

unni wrote:How can I install this ? I tried some steps given in some other threads of this forum like partitioning my drive & formatting it with ext4 . Then copied the 3 files some *.sfs , vmlinuz and initrd . Atlast , ran the grub4dos config . But on restarting the virtual machine ( yes , its on a VM ) , I get a window manager not found error . Is it some trouble with xinitrc ? Please help !
Did you copy all 3 sfs files, with only archpup_132.sfs it will boot just to tty because window manager is in other sfs module - inside adrv-openbox_132.sfs.

unni
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#94 Post by unni »

Thanks for that ! I think I didnt copy all the sfs and that's what created the problem .
Now Im trying to install Guest Additions and when I tried to do

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 pacman -S virtualbox-guest-utils 
I get an error cannot resolve "linux>=3.7", a dependency of "virtualbox-guest-modules" .
So I thought the error was due to the old kernel ( 3.4.28 ) which is the one which is currently present in ArchPup . So tried to do a full system update through Pacman -Syu but it turned out that core and all others like community , extra and archpup are update to date . Now I am trying to update the kernel through

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pacman -S linux
. Is this the right way of doing it ?

simargl

#95 Post by simargl »

Kernel from Arch Linux unfortunately cannot be used in archpup because it doesn't have aufs support,
so to get functional Virtual box modules it is required to recompile them with archpup kernel source sfs loaded.
I tried to do it once and got some udev related error.

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