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Pidgin 2.10.10 - Build for Puppy 4.3.1 (and later)
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Dec 2013, 02:09    Post subject:  

Are you sure you don't already have at least gnutls installed in some form? Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Dec 2013, 08:08    Post subject:  

No...it simply does not load the plugins lacking libs like vlc does. I gave it a test out on irc and all was fine.

The version I have at the moment (2.5.8 which gave yahoo and msn fixes at the time) uses libnsl for gadugadu and has ssl-nss instead of gnutls which uses the mozilla libraries...I could probably drop them in if I was being lazy Very Happy

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edit..ok dropped in the ssl-nss and libgg plugins from the older version and they work...yahoo connected and gg shows an active plugin...so lazy I am....

gnutls tends to be the ubuntu/debian version ...
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 04:34    Post subject:  

I just meant that if Pidgin executed, you already had the dependencies installed in some form. Mr. Green I didn't think 4.1.2 had them preinstalled, though. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Dec 2013, 08:54    Post subject:  

You are right those dependancies are not included.... but at least if someone wanted your build of 2.10.7 on 4.12 its useable with a minor plugin swap... I presume its probably configurable at build time as to which ssl is used but there's no need for anyone to get that involved for us oddball users Very Happy

Nice tidy build too...some are way over the top. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Jan 2014, 21:27    Post subject:  

Pidgin 2.10.8 has been released. See the main post for the link to the changelog and downloads.

Oops, forgot to ask...

mikeb wrote:
Nice tidy build too...some are way over the top. Smile


How so? I don't think I've ever really seen any Pidgin pets/builds that weren't more or less basic. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014, 07:55    Post subject:  

Oh there were some pets that were double the size of yours at one point...even went to sfs on one.

I never bothered to download them to find out why....might have had dictionaries / spellchecker libs, and so on...I think every possible option was enabled.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2014, 17:03    Post subject:  

To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2014, 17:14    Post subject:  

Makoto wrote:
To be fair, though, I've seen one or two people who preferred using SFS for all their packages, even the tiny ones. (Probably using sfs_load rather than the Boot Manager.)

I use Pidgin often enough that I wouldn't want to use it as an SFS, but that's just me. Smile


Not just you. Very Happy I decide to go for PET or SFS files depending on how big the app is. I don't think Pidgin is too big to use it as SFS, even including all dependencies. Also, I remove all locales except the ones I use. Maybe because I usually run Precise, which already has Pidgin so I only have to install the main package. Skype is another story. Wink
Thanks for the update, by the way. Cool

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2014, 17:47    Post subject:  

other than core stuff every app I use is an sfs..some only a couple of hundred k. Regular ones loaded at boot...one offs loaded dynamically.

got that from slax and made me pups do the same.

anyway we/I digress.

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PostPosted: Fri 31 Jan 2014, 18:32    Post subject:  

The Pidgin devs will probably be releasing 2.10.9 soon, probably this weekend - mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat. (Incidentally, that's why I kept the download links for 2.10.7 in the main post.)

I don't know if there are any other fixes included, though.

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PostPosted: Fri 31 Jan 2014, 19:17    Post subject:  

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mostly due to a bug introduced in 2.10.8 that causes problems for those trying to connect to Facebook chat.

some might consider that to be a feature Very Happy

well thanks for keeping all of us up to date Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Feb 2014, 17:44    Post subject:  

I don't know... I try to stay as far away from Facebook and Twitter as possible, if I can help it. Mr. Green
However, since Facebook chat uses XMPP, a problem with that could theoretically affect other XMPP users (Google Chat, etc.). Neutral

Anyway, v2.10.9 has been released; the download links are in the first post of this thread. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 08:01    Post subject:  

Hi Makoto

I got the urge to build 2.10.9 and play a bit.
I used libnss (mozilla) for ssl which seemed to work just fine for yahoo and did not then need the gnutls dependancies, and also enabled sasl and added libsasl2 which some irc networks use for tor also...all seemed happy.
glib 2.16 is used for a couple of functions which I had updated in 4.12 for stability with flash player so must mention that too....they could be bypassed but then again the update for 4.12 is worthwhile.

By the way what is perl used for .. for my old 2.5.8 version I deleted the perl libraries which are quite big and could not detect any loss of function?

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 10:11    Post subject:  

I guess for ability to add additional perl scripts/plugins:
https://developer.pidgin.im/doxygen/dev2.x.y/html/perl-howto.html

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Feb 2014, 10:39    Post subject:  

Yeah the obvious answer lol...I suppose i was wondering if any of the standard chat ability is dependant on its presense.
Funny the examples seem to duplicate what pidgin does anyway... or perhaps I am missing something which is often the case.

My take on this is having a basic only whats needed pidgin leaving out all the juicy extras that are available to keep it puppy sized.

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